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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:48 PM
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Warner: New Report Backs Iraq WMD Claims
WASHINGTON - An upcoming report will contain "a good deal of new information" backing up the Bush administration's contention that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) pursued weapons of mass destruction, Senate Armed Services Committee (news - web sites) Chairman John Warner, R-Va., said Tuesday.

The administration cited Saddam's hunger for such weapons as a main reason to invade Iraq (news - web sites) last year.

"I'm not suggesting dramatic discoveries," Warner told reporters, but "bits and pieces that Saddam Hussein was clearly defying" international restrictions, "and he and his government had a continuing interest in maintaining the potential to shift to production of various types of weapons of mass destruction in a short period of time."

The report is by the civilian head of the Iraq Survey Group, Charles Duelfer, who reports to the CIA (news - web sites) director. Initially the report was expected to be done this summer, but instead it will come out in September, Warner said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040720/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq_weapons
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:50 PM
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1. Bushco didn't say 'pursued'..... they said 'had and ready to fire at US'
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:57 PM
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10. Ready to deploy on 45 minute notice, as I remember... (n/t)
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:15 PM
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20. Oh those Iraqis work fast. They can start from scratch and have
a deployable WMD capable of striking NY on a UAV in only 45 mins.

Amazing.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:50 PM
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2. "bits and pieces"?
"the potential to shift to production of various types of weapons of mass destruction"?

Some claims about Iraq and 9/11 (by no means complete)

From Bush’s State of the Union address 01/28/03:

26,000 litres of anthrax
38,000 litres of botulinum toxin
500 tons of Sarin, mustard, & VX gas
30,000 munitions for delivery of above
mobile biological weapons labs
Iraq aids and protects al Qaeda
fleet of planes capable of dispersing chemical weapons almost anywhere in the world
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa

From a speech to the nation, 10/07/02:

Iraq is rebuilding nuclear facilities

From a press conference 07/14/03:

Iraq refused to allow inspectors in

VP Dick Cheney, on Meet the Press 03/16/03:

“We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.”
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:00 AM
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40. Kibbles 'n Bits 'n Pieces? n/t
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:50 PM
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3. This Is Just More Crap


"The administration cited Saddam's hunger for such weapons as a main reason to invade Iraq"

No, the adminstration cited Saddam being an immediate threat to the safety of the US as THE reason to invade Iraq.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:54 PM
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8. john warner is fulla CRAP!
How dare he insult our intelligence?!!
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lucky777 Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:50 PM
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4. Here we go -- 'bits and pieces,' 'had a continuing interest,'
watch for more wiggle-tactics. These people can muddle any waters, they're unbelievable and relentless.

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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:51 PM
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5. If Warner had served in 1804 instead of 2004, he would have been called
out on a duel by now. There is no honor left in the man. He couldn't spell the word.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:56 PM
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9. Warner is a Neo Con ASS


He is too old to be this mean!
Remember when he married Liz Taylor?
That is a blast from the past!
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:52 PM
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6. How many ways can you dress up a pig?
I'm about to give up here! I never knew there were so many ways to lie!
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:54 PM
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7. Warner: "I'm a disingenuous liar."
Hey, it would have been just as accurate and much briefer.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:57 PM
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11. Oh puhleaze!
Hussein "had an interest" in having "the potential" to have WMD's. That's a hell of a long way off from mushroom clouds over America.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:00 PM
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12. Hussein's "hunger" and what was actually
on the table are two different things. I think they upped the October surprise to July.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:01 PM
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13. They're gettin on my last nerve!
fer gawds sake--just drop it! Nobody's buyin it! GO AWAY!!!!!
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:02 PM
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14. The administration cited Saddam's hunger ??????
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 08:02 PM by grytpype
Ah, no actually, the Bushists said he HAD weapons and was about to USE them!
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:10 PM
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15. no matter how you stir a cowpie, it's still bulls*it and it still stinks!
Sure does give us that continuing conviction that when this pResident also wears no clothes, their kool-aid gets an extra dose of desperation-hits-new-gutter-lows flavoring!!!!
:puke:
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:11 PM
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16. a continuing interest in maintaining the potential to shift to production
What the bloody fuck???
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:12 PM
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17. Iraq Survey Group...
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 08:15 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
...the Rummy intel group formerly known as the Office of Special Plans.

Now you KNOW it's shit!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:13 PM
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18. This is a terribly misleading headline
Bush said Saddam had WMDS, not that he was pursuing them. My, how they've lowered the bar.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:13 PM
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19. If I have an engine and a steering wheel, it doesn't mean I have a car.
Too little, too late.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:40 PM
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21. Oh PLEASE!!! Repubs are so Desperate!!! Just cause ya Want
WMD doesn't mean ya have them

and we had a preemptive strike on a country who wanted WMD well I can kinda realize WHY!!!

Cause we were going to blow them apart

:argh:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:41 PM
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22. Oh PLEASE!!! Repubs are so Desperate!!! Just cause ya Want
WMD doesn't mean ya have them

and we had a preemptive strike on a country who wanted WMD well I can kinda realize WHY!!!

Cause we were going to blow them apart

:argh:
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Cheneys_former_heart Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:45 PM
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23. Yeah, and I have the hunger and desire for 1 billion dollars
But somehow I don't think I will be able to produce 1 billion dollars, no matter how much I hunger and desire for it. Sheesh.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:57 PM
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24. Nice try
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 09:02 PM by rocknation
but "pursuing" WMDs is a long way from "possessing" them AND "being able to strike the U.S. with them within 45 minutes". THAT was your original story, remember?

:headbang:
rocknation
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:14 PM
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25. Iran HAS wmd. North Korea HAS wmd. Iraq "hungered" for wmd?
Oh, but wait--Iraq didn't have much of an army. Iran and North Korea do. And the buried news flash is, Iran may have helped the 9/11 perpetrators--no evidence that Iraq did. So... by ChimpCo's standards, WE INVADED THE WRONG COUNTRY!!!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:19 PM
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26. "The administration cited Saddam's hunger for such weapons
as a main reason to invade Iraq last year."
Bull. The "main reason" given by this administration wouldn't have left Saddam hungry for WMD because according to bushco's "main reason" for the invasion Saddam had a veritable smorgasbord of WMD to feast upon within arm's reach.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:24 PM
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27. Oh, bullshit, Warner. Blow it out your NeoCon a__.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:25 PM
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28. ReThuglican blue smoke, chatter and disinformation...
:wtf:
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:41 PM
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29. Party Above Country 24/7......
.........I wonder what Liz Taylor had to say to ole gentleman John as the door was about to hit his arse on the way out the door......
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:47 PM
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30. All DU Virginians need to bombard Warner with phone calls and
e-mails. All of this propaganda is out there for the sheeple.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:00 PM
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31. More BS.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:13 PM
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33. That headline got me.
Then I read the bullhshit! Man these Right Wingers know how to talk crap. Unfortunately, there are millions of ignorant &/or stupid people that lap this crap up. Any Dems who feel that this election is in the bag for them better not feel too complacent. The Shitstorm of the RW assult is just starting.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:09 PM
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32. And the spinning begins...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:11 PM
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34.  hunger for such weapons as a main reason to invade Iraq
Oh, you what? I don't think this is true!:+
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:22 PM
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35. Finally, a real War Against Hunger
"The administration cited Saddam's hunger for such weapons as a main reason to invade Iraq (news - web sites) last year."

Not quite what humanitarians had in mind, when they coined the phrase, though.
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:37 AM
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36. We could get other countries to help
in the WAR AGAINST HUNGER.The Coalition of the Filling! Howdy:hi:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:46 AM
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37. Thanks
Ya made me ;)
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:53 AM
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38. Warner probably never noticed Elizabeth Taylor was a fat pig
when he married her. Why would he notice Bush lied?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:20 AM
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39. New Fibs 'Back' Old Whoppers! (nt)
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