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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:14 PM
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New poll smiles on Kerry
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5479065/

NANTUCKET, Mass. - John Kerry is heading to his party’s national convention with Democrats faring better with the public on both domestic and international issues, according to a poll released Wednesday. But Kerry remains locked in a tie in the presidential race.

When people are asked which party would do a better job of handling a given issue, Democrats are now 12 points up on handling the economy and have an even larger lead on issues from education to health care and the environment, according to the poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press.

They are about even with Republicans on which party would do the better job on Iraq and foreign policy and are almost even with the GOP on which party is stronger on the issue of morality.

Republicans are stronger than Democrats on the issue of fighting terrorism.

Despite the Democrats’ strong position, Kerry and running mate John Edwards remain in a tie with President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. Kerry and Edwards are at 46 percent, Bush and Cheney at 44 percent, and Ralph Nader and Peter Camejo at 3 percent.

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Excuse me? I thought a "tie" meant that each had the same number. It appears that Kerry leads by 2 points.

Get over yourself, media propagandists! Just look at the number and report it - don't spin it - don't wash it out - just report the friggin' numbers!
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:18 PM
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1. Statistically, it is a tie.
Most polls are + or - three to five points, and still accurate.

I do get your point, though. If it was the other way around, the mediawhores would report it as shrub ahead, and fail to mention the statistical tie.

I don't believe the polls anyway. The only poll that counts is the one in November.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:20 PM
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2. According to the media, if it is within the MOE
and Kerry is ahead, it is a tie, if it is within the MOE and Bush is ahead, then Kerry is losing.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:23 PM
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3. any word on the reaction and the 'spainin from freeperland?
I can't wait to see the spin on this.

yippeee! Go get em, John John!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:25 PM
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4. The key here is Bush's share of the vote
because undecideds will go heavily for Kerry. Being at 44 percent is not at all good for an incumbent president.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:31 PM
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5. Pew Research was founded by the family of Sun Oil founder....
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:36 PM
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6. I'm pretty sure Gore trailed quite badly at this point in 2000*
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theshadow Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:47 PM
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9. He trailed by a little on July 17, 2000.
With a 4% margin of error, he was behind Bush 48% to 46% and had improved over the previous week when he trailed 50% to 41%.

See: http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/07/17/cnn.poll/index.html
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:36 PM
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7. One line here makes the hair on the back of my neck rise
Republicans are stronger than Democrats on the issue of fighting terrorism.

They will take that perceived strength and run with it. Hard to tell how far KKKarl would take that to win this election. :scared:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:39 PM
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8. Actual results are better for Kerry than NBC write up - anyone surprised?
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:47 PM
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10. Actual results are great!
Thanks for posting that. It is interesting how so many were sure Bush would win a few months back, and now it is close to even. That perception is important.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 06:41 PM
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11. all that really matters is the boots on the ground in the voting booth
and that is where we have failed before...dems feet in the voting booth is the goal....not polls...not news media...but dems feet...
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