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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 12:59 PM
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Few Americans believe handing over sovereignty to Iraq will achieve positi
People are waking up?


http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/07-22-2004/0002216062&EDATE=

ROCHESTER, N.Y., July 22 /PRNewswire/ -- A new Harris Poll finds that only a small minority of the public believes that the handing over of sovereignty to the new Iraqi government will achieve positive results. Twenty percent believe it will "enable most U.S. troops to leave Iraq in the next year." Eighteen percent think it will "reduce the number of attacks on U.S. troops." Twenty-nine percent believe it will "lead to a reasonably free and democratic system of government in Iraq," and 22 percent believe it will "be a model which will spread freedom and democracy in the Middle East."
These are some of the findings of an online survey of 2,242 adults conducted by Harris Interactive(R) between July 12 and 16, 2004.

The survey also finds that on several key indicators the public's confidence in the administration and its policies on Iraq has fallen to its lowest levels yet, although the numbers are only marginally worse than they were in June.

Specifically:

* 39% of the public now rate the president's handling of Iraq positively, compared to 41% in June, 49% in March (and a high of 67% in April 2003).

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:01 PM
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1. Good.
Finally, the Bushists have reached the limit of how stupid their supporters are. Now the question is, will they withhold their support, or will they still go to the polls and vote for the Idiot King?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 01:56 PM
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2. * has tanked on Iraq:
"Overall, how would you rate the job President Bush has done in handling the issue of Iraq over the last several months?"
July 04

Excellent 15%
Pretty good 24%
Only fair 17%
Poor 40%
Not sure 3%


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REVOLT823 Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:11 PM
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3. How can anyone rate his performance as
excellent, did they stop watching and reading about Iraq as soon as the we reached Baghdad?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:15 PM
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5. Kill 'em all
Those who really do believe the US should just go in and slaughter anybody who gets in our way. And who believe we were tough and that's why Fallujah and Najaf are "quiet" now. They're out there, sad to say.

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MARALE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:24 PM
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7. I know some that have
Repubs that just ignored the war after the first few months and don't really care now. One the people kept calling me saying "they found WMD's" whenever the press got ahead of themselves. I made me mad, although the person is not very bright and just parrots her Republican CEO father. I won't talk politics with her because it is just too easy to upset her.
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REVOLT823 Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 05:53 PM
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10. Well I guess when Shrub showed up in his flight suit on
the aircraft carrier, everyone figured game over, we won. Forgot that we were going to have to clean up after the party (sarcasm off)
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:15 PM
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4. The dumbest most gullible 20% in the country
Smirk's base.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 02:17 PM
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6. Gee...anyone watching the military losses we're still taking?
Two a day on average--and that's with the "insurgents" targeting Iraqis more....why SHOULD we believe it's going to be all better now??
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 03:30 PM
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8. Because it IS "all better now"
Iraq is sovereign & free. Rummy, Wolfowitz & the "tokens" (condi & colon) are all in cold storage. The chimp has re-invented himself as the "peace president". And there you have it: the subject has been changed!......... Too bad those pesky casualties are still in the news every day, though.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 04:22 PM
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9. Full Sovereignty?
Full Sovereignty?

"Throughout the spring, as hundreds died in the spiraling conflict, as Regime bosses applied their hardcore "anti-terrorist" tortures to innocent bystanders raked up in their occupation nets, as Regime mouthpieces prated endlessly of "liberation" and "sovereignty," Bush viceroy Paul Bremer was quietly signing a series of edicts that will give the United States effective control over the military, ministries -- and money -- of any Iraqi government, for years to come, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Bremer has placed U.S.-appointed "commissions" made up of Americans and local puppets throughout Iraqi government agencies; the ministers supposedly in charge weren't even told of the edicts. These boards "will serve multiyear terms and have significant authority to run criminal investigations, award contracts, direct troops and subpoena citizens," the Journal reports. Any new Iraqi government "will have little control over its armed forces, lack the ability to make or change laws and be unable to make major decisions within specific ministries without tacit U.S. approval, say U.S. officials.


Earlier Bremer edicts laid the Iraqi economy wide open to ruthless exploitation by Bush-approved foreign "investors"; dominance of such key sectors as banking, communications -- and energy -- is already well advanced. The latest dictates aim to ensure that this organized looting goes on, no matter what kind of makeshift "interim government" the United Nations manage to piece together. Bush's plans to build a Saddamite fortress embassy in Baghdad and 14 permanent military bases around the country are designed to provide the knee-breaking "security" for these lucrative arrangements."



http://context.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/05/21/120.html

Posted June 30, '04

It is a pure sham, a US Puppet Govt. Most Americans may be fooled into the false notion that Iraq now has "full sovereignty" but the Iraqis sure a Hell won't be. They damn well know Colonialism when the experience it. Over 30 years of British Colonialism hasn't been forgotten.

The "new" Govt. will fail and it may not even get to the phony elections of Jan.'05. I predict a Mass Uprising against the Occupation, which remains, in mid July. A Civil War in Iraq may not arise as many predict. Perhaps the various factions will hammer out compromises without bloodshed. The excuse of the US Occupation of staying to prevent a Civil War is most likely another ploy to keep 14 Military bases with 100 K US Troops in Iraq to protect the US and other country's Multi-Corps that are entrenching in Iraq. It's not all about the oil.



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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 08:06 PM
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11. Hey amigo
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 08:08 PM by Ernesto
Ever hear of sarcasim?.. Of course there ain't no stinking sovereignty. You know that, I know that, however it is great to hear from you... We're all in ths fight together!.... Me, I'm just an old Marine Corps surviver of Nam, '67-'68.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 08:20 PM
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12. The NYT just needs a little more time to convince them
Yesterday, Nagourney wrote:

"In Iraq, the transfer of sovereignty has led to some reduction in American casualties."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/21/politics/campaign/21repubs.html?pagewanted=2&hp

It's a big fat lie. As of yesterday, more Americans died in the 21 days post sovereignty than in the entire preceding month.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 10:08 PM
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13. thanks for posting....when will the media wake up???
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