'Fahrenheit 911' (Press Release of Reaction by Political Party Poll)

[Robbien]

TABLE 1 SEEN "FAHRENHEIT 911": BY PARTY

Republican . 7%
Democrat . . 17%
Independent . 18%
Total . . . . 13%

TABLE 2 HOW AUDIENCE RATES MOVIE: BY PARTY

Positive:

Republican . 44%
Democrat . . 89%
Independent . 70%
Total . . . . 76%

TABLE 3 WAS MOVIE FAIR OR UNFAIR TO PRESIDENT BUSH: BY PARTY

Fair:

Republican . 30%
Democrat . . 85%
Independent . 56%
Total . . . . 64%

Many more details at link:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/07-23-2004/0002217158&EDATE=

[Worst Username Ever]

1. all we need is a 2% shift in votes

so if 30% or repugs really think it was fair (it was), and even the smallest percentage of those stay home, we are doing just fine.

[Robbien]

3. It is the Independents that may make the difference here

Almost twenty percent saw the movie, and almost all of them thought it was positive and fair. That is great!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. The independent stats are what get me

It is obvious that members of that group felt positive about the film, and a majority felt it was fair to Bush....if independents make the difference in the election.....

[daleo]

4. The Republican positives are surprisingly high

44% positive vs 56% negative. Quite close to an even split. I guess there are still a lot of unbrainwashed Republicans, you just never hear from them. That has to worry the BFEE.

[amber dog democrat]

5. oh and it does worry them.

This war is going to be the Chimp's undoing.

[Rebellious Republican]

7. You here from us almost daily, well ex-repubs that is! There are

a butt load of former repubs here at DU, and yes, most of us left (no pun intended) the party because of the Neocon takeover! There really is no such thing as the Republican Party anymore, just like any hostile corporate takeover they kept the name in place, to keep as many old customers as they could. Besides who would ever vote for a political party named the "Neocon Fascist" party?

:wow:

[KittyWampus]

8. Your Analogy- Hostile Corporate Takeover

is perfect.

[Rebellious Republican]

9. Thanks, that really is what it boils down to.

If you put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig!

:toast:

[Robbien]

10. It is a shame really

There were a lot of good ideas and people in the old Republican Party. The Neos have perverted the implementation of those ideas into something that is a fascist mess. The problem is that too many of the general public are not paying attention to what is really going on and are just being loyal to the old political labels.

[Rebellious Republican]

11. Unfortunately, I think you are right, thats why I also made the comment

about "keeping the old customers". I was talking with a neighbor lady the other day. She is a good person, she is retired military and a devout Christian, not the born again type either. She is genuinely pleasant to be around. Knowing that she is a republican, I asked her what is the attraction for her to George W. Bush, what is it that to her makes him a great leader and worth reelecting. She kind of hesitated, searching for something to say, and said "well he is a republican!". Thats the only thing she could come up with, and she knows that I am a vet and former republican. She also has a girl friend that comes by that hates JEB Bush, she worked for DCF here in Florida. I am hoping that between the two of us, we will convert her, wish us luck. The point of my story is that there are many like her, they are just voting party line, its just easier that way, I guess.

:shrug:

[DemBones DemBones]

14. So, how can we best convince other Republicans?

I have Republican friends who are still supporting Bush* and who jumped all over other friends who tried to tell them about F/9-11.

What made you see the light?

[Northwind]

6. Not surprised by this

I personally know 4 life-long Republicans, at least one of which was a total frepper Bush Droid, who after seeing F911 refuse to vote for him. And this is in Dallas, Tx. The only repugs I know unmoved by this film are the ones who are too scared to go see it.

[cyclezealot]

12. Moore is like being a prosecutor.

He does not have to be fair...he has to be accurate, should he want to win the case...Let's dispell this demand to be fair...Yes, we can't make unsubstantiated charges...So then, yes; Moore is being fair.!

[Mokito]

18. That's a good point.

It's due time to put a stop to this "Be Fair" crap. To the Repubs "fair" seems to imply an endless weakening of your argument until the argument in its whole becomes utterly useless and pointless. They always ask --no, demand-- that everybody goes easy on them, cut them some slack.

Honest, yes.
Accurate, yes.
Fair, no more.

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[daleo]

15. The plane used for the Bin Ladens was the same one chartered by the WH

To ferry the press around, no less. Its too bad that Micheal Moore didn't know that when he made the film.

[thebigidea]

16. nice distraction, but shouldn't the focus be on WHY Saudi flights?

Of course not, spread FUD about Moore instead.

Is a badly bearded filmmaker far more sinister than sneaky flights done as a favor to Bandar, bearing precious Bin Ladens?

What are your priorities? We're in a TIMMMME OF WAAAAAAAAAAAAR, right? You'd think OBL's kin would be slightly more worthy of scrutiny than the director of CANADIAN fuckin' BACON.

[TexasBushwhacker]

17. And it will pass $100 Million Domestic this weekend!

According to Variety, it was already past $98 Million as of Thursday. Just simply incredible! Even though I would certainly like to see higher numbers for people just going to see it, the fact that 13% of those surveyed had seen a DOCUMENTARY, even this one, in a movie theater (rather than waiting until it was on cable or DVD) is jaw dropping. What's next? Are Americans going to start reading again?!

Reading the article, I must say perception is everything. While the statistics they pick out to highlight are interesting, the stats that you have to read for yourself are even more interesting (at least to me). For one thing, they lump a rating of "fair" together with "poor" to come up with Negative. Based on the mindset of the Republicans I know, I think the "fairs" should be counted as a positive rating! Only 40% of Republicans rated the film as "poor". That means 60% thought it wasn't junk. THAT'S HUGE! In fact, 23% rated it "excellent" and another 21% as good. Granted, only a certain kind of Repub will even see it, but still, I just see these numbers as nothing less than amazing.