UK could send troops to Sudan 'quickly'

[psychopomp]

Guardian Unlimited Politics | Special Reports | UK could send troops to Sudan 'quickly'

Britain could send 5,000 troops to Sudan very quickly if the government decides to intervene in the humanitarian crisis, the head of the army said yesterday.

"If need be we will be able to go to Sudan," General Sir Mike Jackson, the chief of general staff, told BBC News 24's Hardtalk programme. "I suspect we could put a brigade together very quickly indeed."

Pressure for intervention was growing yesterday after the US House of Representatives unanimously approved a resolution declaring that "the atrocities unfolding in Darfur ... are genocide".

In defiance of complaints from Sudanese officials that their country is being treated like Iraq, members of the house urged President George Bush to seek a UN resolution threatening sanctions against those responsible and authorising a multinational force to protect displaced people and humanitarian workers.
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[lastknowngood]

1. So could the U.S. if they had oil

n/t

[HysteryDiagnosis]

3. So could the U.S. if they had oil

In 45 minutes... ask Mr. Blair.

[amber dog democrat]

4. "So could the US . If they had oil"

and we'd install a provisional authority to manage it for them too.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. and we'd install a provisional authority to manage it for them too.

Funny how the Ministry of Oil was protected in Baghdad... but not much else.... muy interesante....

[amber dog democrat]

7. Those Sudanese Insurgents must hate us for our freedom

but still there is no compelling reason for us to go in unless there is ......

Oil, that is. Black Gold, Texas Tea,,,,,

[frankly_fedup2]

14. Yeah, the Sudan has oil, and the big oil companies have already

been over there studying where the most is and how we will get our hands on it. They were there way before Osama.

However, they are not the second largest oil reserve on the Earth like Iraq.

We need to send some troops over there to help protect these poor people. They are starving as it is, AIDS has already wiped out a generation, and now these Muslim extremists (I'm really sick of hearing about extremists), are raping these poor women and children . . . gang raping. They kill the men, rape the women and children. Also, they are cutting off limbs, cutting women and children up after raping them so they are scarred physically as well as mentally for life.

Islamic women MUST be virgins or they have dishonored their families. A lot of women are committing suicide because they believe their husbands, the ones that are out there fighting these purely evil human beings, will be ashamed of them. As if their getting raped is their fault. They are raping from age 7 to age 80.

I heard something about the lighter skinned Muslims are the ones doing the raping of the darker women to change the skin color of the offspring so they will be whiter. Or visa versa (I'm halfway falling asleep).

They hold the U.S.'s attention about as much as Haiti. It's wrong to allow the Cubans asylum but not Haitians. I Wonder if it is because the Cubans are lighter skinned? What a sad state this country is still in if this is true. I'm well aware there is still racisim in this Country; however, I thought we had come further than that. What kind of stupid BS policy is that?

However, there is a law that if they never touch ground in Florida, the law says the Coast Guard can take them right back. That's why when their boats sink with hundreds of people on them, and the Coast Guard rushes out to help them and to keep them from drowning, they will swim as hard as they possibly can (If they are lucky enough to know how to swim) to get away from the Coast Guard. Their goal is to get on U.S. land. However, if the Haitians reach land, we are suppose to give them asylum . . . but I remember seeing last year about this time when the Haitians were running along highway 95 in Florida and people were picking them up in trucks. I think though that they were sent back anyway per Jeb Bush.

[no safe haven]

12. Aha...but there is oil

New Delhi, June 24 (ANI): The Union Cabinet has approved 200 million dollar pipeline project by state-run energy firm Oil and Natural Gas Corp in Sudan, Oil Minister Mani Shankar Aiyar told reporters on Thursday.
"The Cabinet Committtee on Economic Affairs (CCEA) has cleared our proposal for signing a contract with the Government of Sudan to lay a pipeline from their refinery in Khartoum to port Sudan. This represents a significant breakthrough in our economic relationship with Sudan, a country with whom we hope to greatly intensify our economic relationship in the petroleum and petroleum related sectors," said Aiyar after a meeting of the CCEA.
The Sudan pipeline project is part of the ONGC's expansion plans across Africa, Latin America and the Commonwealth of Independent States, in hopes of producing 400,000 barrels a day from its overseas properties by 2010/11.

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I wonder what Cheney/Halliburton's reaction to this was? Sadly, I fear that the poor souls in Dafur will become pawns in a bigger game of greed that has little or nothing to do with their wellbeing.

(Sorry - newbie here, don't know how to get the link to work! More articles = google sudan+oil+india+contracts)

nsh

[psychopomp]

2. Attacks in Sudan's Darfur region are genocide: US Congress

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x704646

Good links from Hoping4Change in the above thread that provide added detail of the roots of the crisis.

[amber dog democrat]

5. The Brits could be all over that.

Sudan was one of their colonial possessions. It'd be like old home week.
only this time they won't need to send Kitchner and his army to go after the Mahdi

[Anarcho-Socialist]

8. Yes, but...

...they don't have any ulterior motive to intervene in Sudan. The Sudanese don't have anything the British can make money from.

People are burying their children in Sudan, something is going to have to be done.

[amber dog democrat]

10. all sarcasm aside, yes this is a very bad situation.

and I don't see any willingness on the part of the Sudanese Govt to fix it.
It really is the ultimate height of hypocracy fhat the US has this PR thing going about how wonderful a nation it is... and we try to avoid getting drawn into situations like this where only outside help is going to put ao stop to it.

[frankly_fedup2]

18. I believe the Sudanese Government is the one who brought in

the militia, janjaweed. However, now this group is no longer Militia but supposedly working along side Government troops who are going along with all these atrocities against their own people.

How can people, when they feel they get a little power, become so evil?

[Mikimouse]

9. YO, very cool, we can dress Charleton Heston up for a repeat

performance as Gordon. He'll surely know what to do, no?

[amber dog democrat]

11. Just hopefully he won't end up the same way.

And I won't even elaborate on an alternative ending.
but woo hoo, great film.

[Aidoneus]

13. So now Darfuris can be raped and drowned by the White Devil too

Variety is the spice of life..

[adamrsilva]

15. I am surprised they actually labeled it genocide

In a book a read about genocide, I learned that often the US and other countries would not lable genocides as such in order to avoid action.

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[Kathy in Cambridge]

17. Well, there's no oil involved so what's the point?

:eyes:

[frankly_fedup2]

19. Well, you are right for now; however, they have to get things . . .

took care of before they start the Sudanese pipeline. Once that starts, our Government will be such human rights advocates and we will probably build an embassay there . . . for the oil . . . oops, I mean for the poor people.