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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:31 PM
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(Venezuelan President, Hugo) Chavez assassination plot widens

Chavez assassination plot widens


http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/07/27/venezuela.immigration.ap/index.html

"Immigration officials played a role in an alleged paramilitary plot to assassinate President Hugo Chavez, a top federal investigator said Tuesday.

Miguel Rodriguez, director of Venezuela's federal police, said officials helped 102 Colombians travel from western Tachira state to a ranch outside the capital, where they were among 130 people arrested in May. The group intended to kill Chavez, according to investigators.

"Inside complicity ... was logical in order to move this number of people into Venezuela," Rodriguez said.

Jesus Jaimes, a former immigration official, told the local El Universal daily on Monday he received orders to escort the Colombians from the border to the capital."
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:47 PM
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1. When intriguers can no longer do things to make opposition successful,
they start working on people on the inside.

That's what happened to Jesus. They had to bribe Judas to find out where Jesus was going to be.

When you're REALLY effective, the only way you lose is when you're betrayed by someone on the inside. If you're weak, they don't need someone on the inside.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:16 PM
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2. Columbians?
Is Juan Valdez suffering from cerebral palsy?
The New Zealand strain appears to be VERY catching.

Why even South Africa
has had a rash of cases lately
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apafrica_story.asp?category=1105&slug=Terror%20South%20Africa%20Link
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/B670953.htm
and the worst one involved a bunch of eighty men who were apprehended in Zimbabwe and are currently residing in Chikurubi Maximum Security Prison.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3912051.stm

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 09:39 AM
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3. JJ did it.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 10:33 AM
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4. 100 people in an assassination conspiracy. What dumbasses.
Why not just advertise it on the news.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:13 AM
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5. Ironically, they were assembling on the farm next to the farm of the guy..
...who owns the news (IIRC from J.Lynn's post).
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:52 PM
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6. Isn't that pathetic?
You knew these people would be involved, but not so obviously!

The farm where they were arrested belonged to Roberto Alonso, a Cuban "exile" living in Venezuela, brother of the "actress," Maria Conchita Alonso. (I did a search on her once, and learned she has been in a Schwarzenneger movie. Figures, right? Whatta skank.)

Here's an article you may not have seen, with a little new information:
Venezuela arrests Colombian fighters
By JULIA OLMSTEAD / Colombia Week



President Hugo Chávez Frías called them paramilitaries training to oust his government.
Police near the Venezuelan capital on May 9 arrested about 100 Colombian mercenaries that Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez Frías called paramilitaries training to assassinate him and overthrow his government.

The Caracas Metropolitan Police captured most of them after an unnamed female caller on May 8 reported a hijacking of two city buses. Later she reportedly directed three squad cars to a wooded area on the city’s outskirts. After a brief standoff with a man claiming to be a Venezuelan officer and armed with a pistol, the police arrested about 50 Colombians dressed in Venezuelan military uniforms and packed into the buses. Police arrested dozens more nearby.

The government said they had been training at Daktari Ranch, a farm owned by Cuban-Venezuelan Roberto Alonso, a member of a Venezuelan opposition group called the Democratic Bloc.

On May 10, Chávez said the alleged plot involved Venezuelan opposition groups and Miami-based Cubans who oppose Cuban leader Fidel Castro. Two days later he said U.S. Army Gen. James T. Hill, head of U.S. military operations in Latin America, knew of the plot. U.S. officials denied the accusation. And Chávez recanted his charge May 14, saying he didn’t believe U.S. or Colombia officials were involved.
(snip)

Unknown agents had lured at least some of the Colombians from provinces near Venezuela, the Bogotá daily El Tiempo reported May 15. They included unemployed peasants living near Cúcuta, Norte de Santander Province, a border city controlled by paramilitaries and known for illegal drug and petroleum trafficking. Family members of some of the peasants said the men were offered $200-$500, textile jobs and a shot at Venezuelan citizenship in return for going to that country for military training, the newspaper reported.
(snip/...)
http://www.colombiaweek.org/20040517.html

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She was Miss Venezuela in 1975.

This is the only photo of Roberto Alonso, originally from Cienfuegos, Cuba, I can find:



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It would be terrific if they had actually shut down the assassination plan, but it's undoubtedly still in force as long as Chavez remains President, and maybe afterwards, just for the hallibut.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:40 AM
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8. arrogance of power
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 08:41 AM by blindpig
they just don't care. Four hundred years of utter dominance has warpped their judgement. Inbreeding, perhaps? We can be thankful for the twin afflictions of currupt power, The arrogance of power and the arrogance of ignorance. They are dangerous but will continually stick their foot in it.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:40 AM
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7. Coup plotting Venezuelan creep hiding in Florida on trial
Posted on Thu, Jul. 29, 2004




ASYLUM CASE


Venezuelan admits contact with fugitive

A former Venezuelan military officer, held at Krome, ends immigration-court testimony -- acknowledging contacts with a fugitive accused of plotting President Hugo Chávez's overthrow.

BY ALFONSO CHARDY

achardy@herald.com


Former Venezuelan National Guard Lt. José Antonio Colina, charged with bombing the Spanish embassy and Colombian consulate in Caracas, acknowledged in court this week he has been in indirect contact with a fugitive Venezuelan general accused of plotting the violent downfall of President Hugo Chávez.

In cross-examination by Homeland Security assistant chief counsel Gina Garrett Jackson, Colina said that while at Krome he received and sent messages through an intermediary, a woman, to Gen. Felipe Rodríguez -- in hiding since also being charged in the Feb. 25, 2003, bombings that left four people injured.

Colina was not asked about the content of the messages, but government prosecutors apparently hope his answers will persuade immigration Judge Neale Foster not to give him asylum. Colina's attorney, Leopoldo Ochoa, said he would not comment on the matter.

Garrett Jackson's questions seemed aimed at showing Colina is linked to people who want to destroy democracy and that he fled Venezuela to avoid a legitimate criminal process -- not torture or death as he testified earlier.
(snip/...)

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/9267584.htm
(Free registration required)

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