CONTROVERSY SURROUNDS KERRY CONVENTION FILM: WAR SCENES REENACTED

[okieinpain]

http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc8.htm

[Richardo]

1. Oh brother.

Another "World Exclusive" no doubt. :eyes:

[arwalden]

41. My Thoughts Exactly! And, So? Who The Fuck Cares? (Except For GOP Shills.)

All of Bush*'s scenes of "competence" aren't genuine.
Where's his outrage about that?

-- Allen

[jpgray]

2. I won't go to Drudge--I'll wait for another source.

That way I save time on the ten-to-one chance it's BS in the first place. If he quotes a major source, please quote that.

[ronatchig]

7. I'm with ya on that, JP

I clicked on Sludge once about 5 yrs back and that was enough for me. Talk about someone whose opinion I am NOT interested in, that creep is it.

[annxburns]

31. It is, of course, BS and it is going to backfire ...

Ya know, we bitch about the regular media not ignoring Drudge and then we do the SAME DAMN THING. There are at least three threads about this.

Let me give you guys one dyed in the wool, RWers view of this. This guy writes for the national review, aka neo-con central ...


"KERRY IN VIETNAM
This story is going to get a lot of coverage. (links to Drudge)

Now, I've said this before and I'm going to keep saying it. It's not right -- it's improper, unseemly, unethical and dishonorable -- for a party with a Bush-Cheney ticket to mock John Kerry's service.

Yes, I know the temptation is strong; and I know there are all sorts of respects -- including this latest one -- in which Kerry's military service is pretty darn mockable.

But when all is said and done, he served. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney didn't, and they should have done. I say this as a Bush-Cheney voter. I like the ticket, and I'll be voting for it. I wouldn't vote Kerry-Edwards at the point of a gun. Yet if you ask me: "Doesn't it take some of the luster off the GOP ticket to know that when it came time for your guys to put themselves in harm's way at the nation's call, they ducked it?" my honest answer would be: "Yes, it does."

And yes, of course I suspect Kerry's motives in going to VN just as much as you do. It is still the case that he went. It is still the case that if some NVA round had passed six inches further to the left, he would have been maimed or killed.

The honor that we accord to our serving men and women is, in my personal opinion, indivisible. John Kerry is just as entitled to it as anyone else who served. That's how I see it, anyway.
Posted at 03:30 PM"

Okay, feel better now? John Kerry RISKED HIS LIFE for our country. Period.

[Kukesa]

42. Neither will I, especially

because he gets paid for each and every hit. He won't get a cent from me.

[Hoping4Change]

58. He gets paid for each hit?????

[Kukesa]

63. Confirmation?

That's what's been reported here previously, H4C; he's paid by his advertisers according to how many "hits" his website gets each day.

I hope someone can confirm this.

Huh, huh, can someone help us out here? Puleeze?

[rednek_Liberal]

76. I can neither confirm nor deny ...

that Sludge gets paid per hit, however that is kind of the nature of the Web. Most sites want to make money somehow, and advertising revenue usually pays more for a higher traffic site. So in theory ... yes.

[swag]

3. I got my panties in a wad over that for about five seconds

but really, who gives a shit?

[Nashyra]

6. He was probably bringing home footage

to use AGAINST the war. If they go down this road< I think the anti-depressant rumor or non rumor should be explored. It's an issue because the * tried to hide his DUI's before the last election, he basically made it an issue by lying by omission last time. The people have a right to know who the f*&^ they are electing and what their condition is.

[truthspeaker]

4. Sort of like the Bush campaign ads with actors playing NYC firefighters?

[jayfish]

5. How Much More Of This Can We Take?

Message to Sludge: Even if it's true, no-one cares.

Jay

[okieinpain]

8. sorry for posting it, but it will be the talking point of the day, not

bush's drug (not proven) problem.

[nolabels]

9. Drudge?

http://www.newcomicreviews.com/albums/miscfilms/

[rock]

11. Verbal. Right?

[LTR]

10. And they're digging up old news!

These are bullshit RW sources, but they are pretty old.

http://pencilinyourhand.blogspot.com/2004_05_23_pencilinyourhand_archive.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/blog_5_3_04.html#5_6_04_1021

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200402270811.asp

[demoman123]

23. What were Kerry's handlers thinking to use this footage?

I can't understand how the Kerry campaign or the DNC approved the use of Kerry's "re-enactments" as part of the video on Kerry for the convention. It has been public knowledge since 1996 that this footage was re-enacted (witness the Globe article).

Of course the Republicans were going to tell everyone about this (via Drudge). So how are people going to feel watching this stuff? Not that they are seeing a war hero in action, but a guy pretending to be a war hero. What were Kerry's handlers thinking? How could they be so dumb?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

36. Right. Whatever you say. LOL!!!

[demoman123]

47. Glad you are so agreeable.

And cheerful.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

83. I'm getting less cheerful with each claim that you make. Go away.

[demoman123]

93. Sorry. Not until the authorities bounce me out of here. :) n/t

[5thGenDemocrat]

46. Now let's discuss Kerry's Silver Star

Tell ANY veteran -- Repug or Democrat -- that you can fake one of those and you'll get socked right in the nose. I don't much care about the "footage" one way or the other, and I surely don't give a rat's patoot for or about Drudge, but the Silver Star is a mark of a hero on either side of the political aisle.
As a veteran, I suggest you peddle your bullsauce elsewhere.
John
US Army, 1974-76.

[demoman123]

48. Okay, what about his silver star?

Did I say he did not win one? Did I say he was not a war hero? Did I say one word criticizing Kerry's war record? No. What I said was that I did not understand how the DNC could permit well known re-enactments to be used in video footage at the convention. This undermines, rather than supports, Mr. Kerry.

Do you understand this move? If so please explain.

[5thGenDemocrat]

54. You said your piece, I said mine

I said I couldn't possibly care less about the footage. Kerry served his country with honor and valor, Dopey and Crashcart didn't -- and that's that. Some "re-enactment" isn't going to change the facts of the matter.
John
I suppose Audie Murphy re-enacting the battle in which he won his Congressional Medal of Honor ruined his career, too. Or, more saliently, that Cliff Robertson playing JFK in "PT-109" ruined Kennedy. Here's a news flash for both you and Drudge -- both made them stars. Of course, both men (like Kerry) had to have to nads to warrant creating the "re-enactments" in the first place.

[demoman123]

56. My "piece" is not about Kerry's war record

It's about whoever decided to allow apparent re-enactments to appear as factual documentary representations on the most important day of Kerry's campaign. This will hurt, not help him. Audie Murphy played himself in movies, but this was not passed off as documentary film.

[5thGenDemocrat]

57. Well, fine -- that's your opinion

Facts, on the other hand, are facts.
John
And I'd add that Hollywood had Audie Murphy, a member of the Third Infantry Division commissioned on the battlefield for heroism and a recipient of a CMH, play a guy named Audie Murphy -- a member of the Third Infantry Division commissioned on the battlefield for heroism and a recipient of a CMH.
Maybe you think that wasn't a "documentary," so what would you call it?
Fact is, Murphy earned his medal of honor. Kerry earned his Silver Star.

[demoman123]

94. Yes, that's my opinion, and it is fine.

And Audie Murphy movies were never passed off as battlefield footage.

[Carni]

72. Hell no it won't hurt him

Drudge and the freeper slime nut jobs would have run this up the flag pole anyway...the Kerry people just took all the wind out of their sails.

This must really piss the repuke operatives off don't you think? :)

Better luck next time! (To THEM of course)

[seventhson]

85. John - please contact your local state veterans for Kerry coordinator

the campaign needs you

[Carni]

71. What were YOUR handlers thinking?

When they let you post this?

[customerserviceguy]

78. Too much emphasis on the "war hero" stuff

I wish Kerry would just drop the whole "war hero" thing, enough is enough! The last time we elected a President who saw active combat service was 1988, a mere fifteen years after Vietnam was over with. Now, sixteen years later, we get force fed Vietnam at every possible mention, even though the last three Presidential elections went for a person who did not have active service, over challengers that DID have war service.

If Bill Clinton is not less than noble for having avoided Vietnam, why does Vietnam service make Kerry any better of a person? Does anyone else see Kerry as playing into the right wing game on this?

[Dhalgren]

87. Ok, I'll field this one.

The Pukes have made an issue over Kerry not being "up" to serving as CIC, so Kerry's service in war (and Caligula's and Fester's avoidance of it) is a big deal. I don't think that war should be glorified - especially the Vietnam war - but bravery and service are laudable and genuine issues in an election for president. Kerry should be proud of his service and proud of his equally heroric service in the anti-war movement when he returned from Vietnam. He and all of us should readily point out the differences (where there are any) between Kerry and Caligula. Kerry's bravery, decorations, and service are good points of difference.

Oh, and as long as folks are listing these things - U.S. Army, 1972-75.

[customerserviceguy]

88. OK, I can see a little of it

But what if Howard Dean had been nominated? Seven months ago, we all believed that it was a distinct possibility, I sure did. Dean's lack of Vietnam service (and Edwards's similar lack) are not an issue for me, and probably aren't for anyone who would vote for a Democratic Party candidate.

It just got a bit much for me this morning when I saw John Kerry coming into Boston Harbor with the Vietnam veterans on a boat. Is anybody who has a ghost of a chance of finding the polls in November ignorant of Sen. Kerry's military service? The constant reminders just seem like its pushing too hard. I'm satisfied that John Kerry does not want Islamic terrorism to invade our shores again, I just fear that the comparisons to Vietnam might have the opposite effect.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my post, as you can see, I'm fairly new here, although I have lurked from time to time.

[5thGenDemocrat]

91. Okay, montechamber

I personally do think a little less of Clinton, and Dean too, for ducking the draft. It didn't keep me from voting for him and I would have voted for Dean, too, had he been the nominee.
But I also think Kerry's service indicates something about his character.
As a veteran, I think war sucks and I suspect Kerry does, too. Dopey, being a "Champagne Warrior" for whatever actual time he showed up in the TNG, thinks war is a big game. Cheney, being a five-time draft dodger himself, would have to ask someone what military service is all about.
Further, it isn't just about war and aggression. It's about veterans and what we owe them, and it's also about families whose sons and daughters and fathers and mothers are in Iraq or Afghanistan or some other shithole. What should we do for them?
Do you think Bush even thinks about it? Or do you think he thinks it's a big goddamned game? I believe Kerry understands the ramifications of war. He hated it enough to first come to our national attention as someone who protested against it fiercely.
I don't have a problem at all about Kerry and his buddies sharing some time on the boat. They shared a life-changing experience together and I think it's great that these guys still admire Kerry enough to share this big moment in his life. I'd do it for one of my Army buddies, should one of my buddies ever get nominated for President.
Shoo -- Bush can't even find someone who actually saw him in Alabama.
John
Who spent his Army time way rear-echelon with the Signal Corps. The most blood I ever shed came from a paper cut.

[customerserviceguy]

95. Thanks for your reply

Also, thanks for your service. I don't mean to devalue the military service of any of our veterans by saying that it's not necessarily a qualification for the Presidency. Also, I share your feeling that if one has not faced the possibility doing battle in war, then one does not have the exact same reservations about it that someone who has countenanced the idea of dying in military conflict.

But surely, there are moral dimensions faced by a decision-maker who sends our troops off to battle whether that leader served or not. Can any of us imagine a Presidency where battle-tested military leaders do not heavily influence the decision to go to war? While you have a point about thinking less of Clinton and Dean, surely the higher-echelon military staff that they have full access to, can appreciate the sacrifice of blood and treasure inherent in any combat operation.

All I find questionable is Sen. Kerry's (maybe its his campaign staff's) insistence on emphasizing the Vietnam service ad nauseum, especially given the fact that the last three elections produced Presidents without battle experience who defeated candidates who had gone off to war. I guess I'm worried about stressing the issue TOO much, in effect, telling the public that they had better be electing someone who needs military credentials, to muster the resolute toughness to deal with the enemy 'over there'. That voting public already has someone in front of them who has assumed the mantle of Commander in Chief for three and a half years, and has not shown any fear of launching a war when he feels like it.

Thanks again for your thoughtful reply.

[ewagner]

12. Here we go again...........

Remember the Clinton Chronicles . All lies, all the time but it gathered a cult following among the right wingers. I suspect this is their latest incarnation and will be passed around like a cheap porno film in RW circles.............

[Rebel_with_a_cause]

13. Why are these negative threadlines allowed at this point in time?

Wasn't Mopaul once banned because he threatened the status quo? Bury these BS threads elsewhere. I get enough of this tripe when I turn on the TV.

[sniffa]

14. yes, if you if you cover your eyes and ears

they'LL just go away. that aLso works for paying off debts.

[shockingelk]

15. "do anything / say anything politics" n/t

Republicans are such losers.

[Sparkly]

16. Look where this info comes from!!

An unnamed source from a book published by Regnery -- and the author? John Frickin' O'Neill!!! Give me a break!!

[fishface]

17. It also comes from the idiot that wrote his Clinton 'expose'..

another rwing nut making money pushing bullshit to the sheep.

http://www.buzzpatterson.com/

[markus]

18. But it will be on the radio probably today and cable tonight

We ignore Drudge at our own peril.

The real problem is, when is an anchor or a guest going to get in the face of a guest who spews this stuff and say "who pays you to spread Drudge's lies?"

[CO Liberal]

30. Limbaugh Was Talking About It

But Hannity wasn't.

[tom_paine]

19. Nazis say Controversy Surrounds Zionist Convention

Yah...

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

20. Most of us don't have photographers present

when a significant event happens in our lives. I am thinking about George H.W. Bush, who was filmed as he was rescued by a submarine after bailing out of his warplane (leaving two crewmen who may or may not have been dead, but that's another issue).

The Dems could point out that anything is fiction if the Repugs film it at *'s "ranch". The "ranch" wasn't originally owned by *, but magically appeared the day he was sworn in. Mostly it serves as a backdrop for the illusion that * is a "cowboy".

[SideshowScott]

21. Once again: Why OH WHY is Drudge in Late Breaking news???? MODS!

No Offense to Okiepian and I really mean no disrespect to you but Drudge really has no place in late breaking news. The guy is a paid lair for the RNC and will to anything possible to make the any Democrat look bad no matter if its a lie or rumor handed down From Rove and the Right wing spin machine. If you find another story from a REAL newspaper post that link.
But to me posting Drudge is no better thank posting stories from the Moonie Times or Newsmax..If one wants to discuss the latest lie from drudge then GD is a great palace for it.
Drudge is no newsman..He tries to look the part to hide the fact hes nothing more than a GOP tool. Hes slime and takes pride in that fact.
This story has more holes in it than swiss cheese.

[Gyre]

90. MODERATOR, please wake up

Drudge is not news.

Gyre

[papau]

22. Is Drudge refering to Director James Smoll's bio short for the Convention?

With this in mind, Kerry has employed Hollywood director James Smoll to produce the documentary introducing him to the convention. It is the latest in a sustained effort by the entertainment world to combat George Bush.


http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=12467083&BRD=1712&PAG=740&dept_id=226967&rfi=6

Check out where the Drudge quotes are from: "a naval officer" in a book published by Regnery, and written by (drum roll...) John O'Neill!

So Drudge knows nothing about the actual Convention bio film!

Why am I not surprised?

:-)

[papau]

79. Yep -its the same bio - seems there is a GOP fear of the 8 mm

Steven Spielberg protégé James Moll was given hours of Kerry's homemade 8 millimeter film to incorporate into the convention short.

As usual Drudge has nothing.

[CO Liberal]

24. I Did a Google Search On This

The only sources I could find were Drudge, NewsMax, and some place called Insight On the News:


Drudge Picks Up Insight Report of Kerry Film Fakery
Posted July 28, 2004

A bombshell new book written by the man who took over John Kerry's Swift Boat charges that Kerry re-enacted combat scenes for film while in Vietnam, according to the Drudge Report. And now that homemade footage is being used for the official Democratic National Convention video introducing Kerry. For more, read "Controversy Surrounds Kerry Convention Film; War Scenes Reenacted"

The footage, which Insight reported on nearly five months ago, is finally sparking controversy. As the insider wrote on March 1: Been wondering where those 36-year-old "live-action" shots of Kerry in Vietnam came from? Anticipating a political career, he bought a Super-8 camera and re-enacted his moments of heroism for footage he replays today for reporters in his $12.8 million Louisburg Square mansion on Boston's Beacon Hill.

http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/07/19/Politics/Drudge.Picks.Up.Insight.Report.Of.Kerry.Film.Fakery-696333.shtml

* * * * *

This is CO Liberal again. Before you go off thinking this is a legitibale news source, take a look at the right-wing wacko web sites the recommend on their links page:

Political News and Commentary

Cybercast News Service (www.cnsnews.com)
DrudgeReport.com (www.drudgereport.com)
FoxNews.com (www.foxnews.com)
FrontPage Magazine (www.frontpagemag.com)
GOPUSA.com (www.gopusa.com)
Lucianne.com(www.lucianne.com)
Newsmax.com (www.newsmax.com)
Politics.com (www.politics.com)
WorldNetDaily.com (www.worldnetdaily.com)


Talk Radio

Blanquita Cullum (www.radioamerica.org/program/bq.htm)
G. Gordon Liddy (www.liddyletter.com)
Janet Parshall (www.jpamerica.com/jpa/janet.shtml)
The Reagan Information Interchange (www.reagan.com)
Rush Limbaugh (www.rushlimbaugh.com)

[zaj]

26. I believe Insight is owned by the great Moonie...

[CO Liberal]

32. Looks like a lot of people are checking In to This

I just did a WhoIs search on www.insightmag.com, and received the following reply:


We're sorry, but at this time, register.com is not in a position to provide you with the WHOIS information you have requested. The IP address from which you have visited register.com has been temporarily blocked due to its association with excessive queries on our system. Register.com has blocked this IP address in order to prevent any adverse impact to our systems which could prevent other WHOIS requests from being properly processed. We apologize about the inconvenience, and encourage you to renew your request in about 24 hours.

[j4rester]

37. Samspade whois:

Anybody in DC want to give them a call?

Organization:
Insight on the News
Paul Rodriguez
3600 New York Ave.
Washington DC 20002
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax..: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]
Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
Domain Name: INSIGHTMAG.COM
Created on..............: Thu May 02 1996
Expires on..............: Sat May 03 2008
Record last updated on..: Wed Jul 16 2003
Administrative Contact:
Insight on the News
Paul Rodriguez
3600 New York Ave.
Washington DC 20002
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax..: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]

[SideshowScott]

77. Insight owned by rev moon..nothing more needs to be said....N/t

[LTR]

43. Insight is owned by the Washington Times

aka the Moonies.

They've been around for years.

[seventhson]

40. True

but there is another thread on this. There is sonme truth to it but Kerry told this to the Globe in 1996 and it is no big deal

[Carni]

75. YES it IS

Insight is a moon rag

[KittyWampus]

25. "Reenacted" Scenes Of WAR? Yeah, Bet People Who Got Shot Were Happy

to go back and get wounded one more time WITH FEELING!

[blm]

27. CONTROVERSY SURROUNDS BUSH'S NATIONAL GUARD RECORDS. HE WAS AWOL.

PRESS CLAMORS TO INVESTIGATE FOUR YEARS OF ELABORATE COVERUP BY WHITE HOUSE.

[nolabels]

35. Anybody know if there was thread on DU debunking this NYT article?

Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Published: July 9, 2004

Correction Appended

HOUSTON, July 8 - Military records that could help establish President Bush's whereabouts during his disputed service in the Texas Air National Guard more than 30 years ago have been inadvertently destroyed, according to the Pentagon.

It said the payroll records of "numerous service members," including former First Lt. Bush, had been ruined in 1996 and 1997 by the Defense Finance and Accounting Service during a project to salvage deteriorating microfilm. No back-up paper copies could be found, it added in notices dated June 25.
(snip)
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/09/politics/campaign/09records.html

"I continued flying with my unit for the next several years..."

That statement is an outright LIE, which means the person making it is a LIAR.
http://www.awolbush.com/


http://www.awolbush.com/

[Lucille]

28. NYTs Bill Keller debunked the Globe story

I suggest you read The Howler for more information on this smear, which originated in The Boston Globe. It's an old one, and has been debunked (the Globe's ombudsman even admited that the story, which appeared just before an election and even included the charge that Kerry was a "war criminal," should never have been printed.) However, it's been resurrected from time to time and last appeared in 2002 when the NYT's Bill Keller mocked Kerry for having made the movies, suggesting, as the Globe did in 1996, that Kerry treated his Vietnam experience as a photo op for his presidential ambitions. Then Keller actually looked at the tapes, and Kelller had to admit he was wrong:

KELLER: The first thing to be said is that the senator’s movies are not self-aggrandizing. Kerry is hardly in the film, and never strikes so much as a heroic pose. These are the souvenirs of a 25-year-old guy sent to an exotic place on an otherworldly mission, who bought an 8-millimeter camera in the PX and shot a few hours of travelogue, most of it pretty boring if you didn’t live through it.
According to the Swift Boat Sailors Association, a group of veterans who manned those “Apocalypse Now” riverboats in Vietnam, lots of enlisted men did the same. Senator Max Cleland has hours of film from his service in the First Air Cavalry, which he has had edited into a three-minute meet-the-senator video.

Keller, by the way, never apologized to Kerry or to his readers. Rather, he blamed the "usually reliable Boston Globe."

This smear is almost 20 years old. Nevertheless, since it was in print just once, Rove and Gillespie can trot it out time and time again, dominate the airways with the lies, then retreat after the damage has been done.


http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh021003.shtml

[blm]

38. And they get plenty of help from the David Horowitzes of the left.

.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

39. Thank you very much! This post deserves a much needed kick!

[demoman123]

53. This is not a straightforward repudiation of the story.

It admits the camera but denies the motive.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

80. Right. Whatever you say.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

81. SOMEBODY PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD....

...and put it out of its misery.

[Jackpine Radical]

29. Why the Cheney doesn't someone tip off Drudge on the Bush

military record fraud stuff from Raw Story? Maybe he'd like to print something that hasn't been out since 1996 or so?

[Skip Intro]

33. That slime drudge includes a link in his story to pre-order the book

I love it that the desperation levels are running so high for these rw pukes.

and yeah, this is another drudge "***WORLDWIDE EXCLUSIVE***"

hey drudge - go cheney yourself

[bluestateguy]

34. I guess Saxby Chambliss is advising the Bush campaign now

n/t

[HarveyBriggs]

44. I'm still waiting for the Bush AWOL reenactment video! nt

[Isere]

60. Bush reenactment video

would be nothing but blank video tape.

An empty screen for an empty suit.

[RichV]

73. Nah, it's called Dazed and Confused

you can rent it at your local video store. ;-)

[devinsgram]

45. Oh another Drudge report,

I'll just move on. Nothing here to see.

[2Design]

49. at least he has war experience to re enact...not like landing on

an air craft carrier after having been washed out of flight school and thrown out of the national guard

[Canuckistanian]

50. The way I see it

Look, they're just firing all of their guns at once. The big stuff they've tried already and it hasn't stuck. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

This "accusation" isn't even new. I heard it in January or February.
The RW'ers are re-throwing stuff on the wall, hoping it will stick this time.

They're saving something really big (in their own minds) for later on. Probably beginning of September. Just enough time to let whatever it is sink in and before the debunking gets around to being shown (if at all).

[Career Prole]

51. Ooh! Ooh! Maybe the repukes will counter

by reenacting bush's war scenes!!
Oh...that's right. They can't. He quit drinkin' and druggin'.

[Octafish]

52. The quittin' was when? About 1976? '79? '84? Not quite sure 'bout that.

Oh well. Mebbe Karen The Manly Mouth Hughes knows.

Here's the main scene from the Bush film:



Sincere apologies to the late Mr. & Mrs. Rey.

[Career Prole]

55. Laughing right the hell out loud, I am!

Excellent bush war scene reenactment! :toast:

[Octafish]

59. Here's Smirk's next stop, career-wise.

Please let there be 24/7 prison webcam.

[Career Prole]

61. LOL! He's rehabilitating!

Look! He lets the rats have the crumbs now!

[Octafish]

66. Those are DemocRATs!

Ha ha ha ha (maniacal Demo Donkey laugh)!!!!

Remember the "subliminable" episode from 2000? "Rats!"

[goforit]

64. Octafish .......This is my dream come true!!!!

:yourock:......once again!!!

[Octafish]

67. Every day, our dream moves one step closer ...

Then again, like the NAZIs, they've got a big gang.

[goforit]

62. Since when has Drudge been legit.

I do believe this is a favor from Tony 'Poodle' Blair!!!

[kskiska]

65. Boy, Drudge is throwing everything he's got against the wall

this week, hoping desperately that something will stick this week, preferably before Kerry gives his speech. He's got his marching orders straight from 1600.

[drdtroit]

68. Iwo Jima was staged for God's sake-

these people are like carp in the bottom of a cesspool!

[enki23]

69. sue the motherfuckers for libel

including drudge. this is a known falsehood, and has been for decades.

[GregW]

70. Take two of these and call me in the morning ...

[stepnw1f]

74. Spread This Crap Somewhere else, please

[Media_Lies_Daily]

82. Will somebody please put a round through this thread's head...

...isn't it obvious that it's in great pain?

[John_H]

84. Dem response: reenacted is better than just plain acted like

chimp's aircraft carier landing.

[seventhson]

86. Kerry took pictures of himself in Vietnam NEWSFLASH (Innoculation)!!!!!!!

So the fuck what?

He took his bell and howell 8mm into the delta in 1969.

In 1969 I had a wonderful Bell and Howell 8mm movie camera which I loved

silent and choppy and very fun.

So Kerry had his friends take some shots of him in the bush country in nam and some shots of his boat and firing their guns where they had been attacked.

Kerry TOLD the Boston Globe this in 19 fucking 96 already!!!!

He told them he went back and shot some pictures where they had the firefight and it shows hin walking in the jungle in his fatigues.

I think it is cool as shit, frankly.

What the fuck has BUSH got to show for HIS time serving his country (except maybe court credit for community service for his cocaine conviction)

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89. Must we link Drudge? Let's save bandwidth by linking REAL journalists!

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92. Bush's entire career is make-believe.

Anyway, who's going to film during battle? I hope those shots weren't taken during actual fighting...and hell, it's just shots of him walking.