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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:01 PM
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Unhappy Workers Should Take Prozac --Bush Campaigner
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040729/pl_nm/campaign_jobs_dc

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A campaign worker for President Bush said on Thursday American workers unhappy with low-quality jobs should find new ones -- or pop a Prozac to make themselves feel better.

"Why don't they get new jobs if they're unhappy -- or go on Prozac?" said Susan Sheybani, an assistant to Bush campaign spokesman Terry Holt.

The comment was apparently directed to a colleague who was transferring a phone call from a reporter asking about job quality, and who overheard the remark.

When told the Prozac comment had been overheard, Sheybani said: "Oh, I was just kidding."

<more>

:grr:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:02 PM
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1. Maybe she heard Bush is doing so well on it....
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:26 PM
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20. HA, had the same thought. n/t
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:13 PM
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85. kick~
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:03 PM
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2. I've got a home remedy for her.
It's called my foot up her ass.

:mad:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:03 PM
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3. Soma


"Brave New World" Aldous Huxley


"Let them eat cake." quote attributed to (not necessarily spoken by) Marie Antoinette.

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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:21 PM
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70. LOL. ..Hey everyone: Rate it on Yahoo! nt
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:29 AM
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87. first thoughts too about the remark
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:04 PM
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4. ok, whatever, you'll be out of a job in a hundred days
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 01:04 PM by gasperc
you lousy fucking bitch
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:06 PM
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5. I wonder what chemical cocktail they give Bush?
and his Stepford wife, daughters...
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:24 PM
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45. Thorazine
That was the drug of choice for treating schizophrenics,etc. in the early 1970s after electroshock therapy was outlawed or disconinuted at mental hospitals. It apparently knocks the living daylights out of you.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:52 PM
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53. It can be administered in suppository form.
I would enjoy administering them to her, in a 5 lb. form, belt fed, by using a rapid cycling powered ram. Until they are extruded from her nose.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:07 PM
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6. "Why don't they get new jobs if they're unhappy... "
Uh, Ms Dumbass, I think I've pronounced that correctly, your boss* hasn't CREATED ANY!!

Countdown til bush* publically disavows this comment...(Plus/Minus is Never and a Day)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:15 PM
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76. She should tell that to my brother.
He was laid off 4 years ago and drives a delivery truck to make ends meet. He picks up a lot of stuff from the White House and hauls it to the latest photo-op sites.

He's still a loyal repunklican, however; and blames his current unemployed state on Clinton's penis.

And I used to think he was smarter than me.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:08 PM
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7. Add it to the list
When asked how Dick Cheney felt about the fraud charges against Halliburton, Dick Cheney told a fellow senator: "Go fuck yourself"

When George W. Bush was asked about increasing attacks against our troops, he said: "Bring it on!"

When asked about the quality of American jobs, and the plight of the American worker, the Bush campiagn spokeswoman told them to "get a new job, or pop a prozac".

Jeebs.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:10 PM
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8. I don't make enough to go to the doctor and buy Prozac. And I am
looking for a better paying job since last year.

F*cking A**holes. Those Republicans don't even know what is going on with jobs and the economy and are completely void of empathy.
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:12 PM
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9. Too bad there's no pill to cure somebody of being
a heartless spiteful c*nt. And I love the standard Republican response when caught saying something unforgivably ugly - "Oh, I was kidding."
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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:12 PM
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10. Speaking as a Medicated One...
I think that's fucking crazy, especially with Bush's unbelievably disturbing initiative to screen everyone for mental illness and prescribe drugs. Psychosomatic drugs aren't fucking toys, and shouldn't be used unless necessary. I was prescribed the wrong PS drug once, and though I won't go into details, I can tell you that it was an absolute nightmare.

As it is, I want to get off of the drug, but there's no way I can do so cold turkey. It's an addiction as well as a dubious necessity, and it's what pharma companies are feeding us.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:29 PM
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23. That's a serious issue
The abuse of "soma" substances in our culture is vastly underreported. One step up from "self-medication" is being prescribed medication by professionals who do not thoroughly understand the power of what they prescribe, and the possible side effects.

I know people who are under horrific pressures -- financial insecurity, bullying on the job, rotten spouses, behavior problems with kids, etc -- who are exhausted and crushed and have no way out of the madness, whose only adjustment to life is to turn to a substance that provides them with another flicker of energy, or which anaethetizes them from the pain of their existance without the necessity of examining the causes of the pain. It's kind of like the old commercials about how you should run a bottle of Johnny Walker under a hot tap in irder to get a few more drops out of it!

No cures for ills anymore -- only lifelong "treatments" -- because that's where the pharmaceutical profits are. No one gives a shit about developing meds for cures, because the bottom line is better by providing "treatments' and not cures or solutions.

Also -- underreported are reactions to psycho-active drugs -- like paranoia and rage. Antidepressants can work on some people as mania-inducers, which in some people take the form of anger and rage, much in the same way that steroids can cause rage in some people. Most medical professionals do not know how to recognize these kinds of side effects, and instead will raise the dose of the anti-depressant, which will only in fact worse the symptoms of mania.

They are vastly over-prescribed ("Dishes in the sink? Try Zoloft.") and not well understood.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:41 PM
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48. Chookie, a little education from a user who has researched them.
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 03:26 PM by reprobate
Your reaction is typical of people who are not familiar with the basic purpose of the big three-prozac, paxil, zoloft- which are a class of chemical (not drug, as they are not narcotic and provide no anesthesia or 'flicker of energy) called seratonin re uptake inhibitors.

One of the brain chemical neurotransmitters which aids the transmission of signals across the synapses between the neurons in the brain is called Seratonin. The more seratonin floating free in the synapses, the better the transmission of the signal.

However, at the same time you don't want too much seratonin in suspension. I've heard it speculated that epilepsy may be an overproduction of seratonin in localized parts of the brain. To this end there are 'keyholes' that are 'shaped' to bind to the seratonin and remove it from suspension, thereby regulating the amount of free seratonin.

In approx. 1/4 to 1/3 of the population there are too many of the 'keyholes', removing too much of the seratonin. The effect of this is called Depression. Let me emphasize that depression is not 'having a bad attitude' nor is it something that can be overcome by finding the 'causes of the pain'. It is, quite simply, an imbalance in one of the major brain chemicals. The purpose of these chemicals is to block the 'keyholes' to prevent them removing so much of the seratonin, leaving more free to aid in transmission.

Think of it as a 110volt motor trying to run on 90volts. The motor tries its damndest to run at normal speed, but it simply cannot because it does not have that which it needs to run. SSRIs simply returns that 90 volts to the proper 110volts.

Its very difficult to discuss depression. Unless you have experienced it, words will not convey the feelings. If you have, no words are necessary. I think of it as mentally wading thru molasses all your life.

Your allusion to anger and rage is a popular myth that docs have told me is more likely to lead to suicide as a result of the chemical not working on that particular individual, or too small a dose was prescribed. Remember that depression is a major cause of suicide.

Interestingly, depression seems to be a causative factor in heart disease, and treating it with SSRIs seems to lessen the chance of heart attack.

In my particular case, I can trace the depression back to age 13, possibly connected to puberty and the changes in body chemicals related to it. Now, at 63 I would have given anything to have had the ability to take paxil back then. Life would have been different. Unfortunatly it wasn't until science discovered the seratonin connection that the problem was understood.

Let me re-emphasize that depression is not a psychological problem. It is a physical disease that no amount of myths or stigma will cure.

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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 04:48 PM
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66. You missed my point, amigo
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 04:53 PM by chookie
Maybe I should have made the point what I thought was obvious -- that these drugs are extremely important to people who indeed require them. As one who has suffered crippling depression regularly throughout their lifetime, I would agree with you that they have been a major breakthrough, and an enormous aid for people who suffer from this horrific life-threatening disease.

I don't think *I* misunderstand what they are good for, but I think a lot of people do, including GPs and "consumers." They are *not* a treatment for fatigue from overwork, or existential anxiety, or to give one an "edge" at work, etc.

The reason that you may not be aware of the side effects of these drugs, or their counterindications is because perhaps you have not studied these or were aware of them -- indeed, most people are not. However, there is a serious phenomenon in which people who are experiencing depression, who are "subclinical" for bi-polar disease, are put on these drugs, and experience a full blown manic attack, and even an overall worsening of their Bi-Polar disorder. Other compounds, even steroids, can also bring this about. This is not a "myth" I am merely confused about -- as research on the role of chemicals on bi-polar disorders and even mixed states of depression will show you. When GPs are unaware of this possibility that the drug *might* be exaserbating an underlying, undiagnosed disorder, which is hardly surprising given that in the majority of instances, patients are not given a thorough psychiatric exam but instead report a few symptoms -- they commonly prescribe an increase of the medication -- which makes the symptoms much, much worse. It may in fact play a role in triggering suicides. All I am saying is that these drugs are trickier than many people may realise, and that physicians need to be aware of these potential risks -- as indeed, they will become in the next few years as the fallout from these drugs misapplied become more widely known.

This is only beginning to get the attention of medical professionals, and I don't expect it to reach popular media for probably a few more years, given the pressure of drug companies to prescribe the drug for everything from severe depression to fatigue from overwork to PMS to the George W presidency :-).

While they are effective in the treatment of depression, I am not sure I am enthusiastic about their use for conditions of existential malaise and to gain an edge at work, or to make people not mind things that maybe they should be trying to change.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:42 PM
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78. OK, now I get your point and completely agree. Thanks.
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LiberalBushFan Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:13 PM
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11. But Heinz-Kerry said "shove it"!
And we need to hear about that for at least another week. No need to cover this at all!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:14 PM
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12. oh, like all of his staff probably do?
She's probably been in that mean-spirited unhealthy organization so long that she thinks it's not only normal, but laudable!

I have worked for people like Bush before. That's why I busted my buns getting a postgraduate degree -- to decrease the chance that anybody else would have that amount of control over me in the future.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:14 PM
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13. arrogance
typical republican arrogance
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:16 PM
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14. Be sure to rate this story high on Yahoo so it pops to the surface.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:10 PM
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38. Can we make sure the talking heads get this in their email inboxes?
I can't do it right now and am less than semi literate at the computer anyway...but a lot of you guys are so good...why don't a mob of you copy this story to CNN, MSNBC, the networks, with a note that it deserves at least as much attention as "Shove it."
LET THEM EAT PROZAC! I love it.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:18 PM
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15. Insecurity and fear work wonders too!
As jobs shrink or disappear -- even as the economy improves "overall" (i.e. top 1%) -- people become increasingly terrifed of losing *their* job and falling off the cliff.

Therefore, they *will* put up with wage stagnation, loss of benefits, unsafe working conditions, overwork, bullying.

This is the Republican plan for worker happiness -- make them so scared they could lose it all that they will put up with anything, and just be glad that they are not destitute. This way, they are "happy" with the crumbs from the table thrown at them, and not discontent about things like inadequate wages and bad conditions.

The American worker was eviserated during the Reagan administration. People in this country have accepted that they *must* be treated like shit in the Natural Order of Things. Or that exhaustion and depression are a necessary part of life, and that one needs only to take pills to put up with "Life"(if one has insurance) and not examine the reasons why one is exhausted and depressed -- because perhaps our economic context might come into question.

WalMart is the way of the future -- the only source of jobs, and the only source of goods affordable at the low wages we are told we must expect from now on. Look at the commercials they're running these days -- a father employed at WalMart crediting the company for saving the life of his seriously ill son (by providing health insurance!), or car accident victims grateful for a WalMart employee who saved their lives when he drove past their accident on the way to work. Bizarre. Welcome to the Workers' Utopia of the 21st Century -- even more bizarre than the Workers' Utopias promised by the "commies".
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:18 PM
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16. Give me five minutes with her
in a dark alley. Then we'll see who's "unhappy."
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:22 PM
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17. Perhaps she's speaking from experience.
I know if I was working to re-elect Bush I would be depressed & suicidal.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:25 PM
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19. Can you imagine?
The thought does make one think of driving off a cliff!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:45 PM
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52. no kidding!
What sane person would WANT to see Bush destroying the world?

Excuse me -- I have to rush outside, see the sun, feel the warm summer air, and roll around on the freshly-mown lawn just to counteract such a horrible thought.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:09 PM
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61. LOL! Maybe I need to do that!
It's been a rough day.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:16 PM
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63. Can we please refrain from following her into the mud? Thank you.
Considerations on the Stigma of Mental Illness
http://www.cpa-apc.org/Publications/Archives/CJP/2003/november/guesteditorial.asp

"Stigma, prejudice, and discrimination are closely related and tightly interwoven social constructs. These constructs affect many, based on age, religion, ethnic origin, or socio- economic status. However, a person can potentially move out of these groups, if not physically—as in age or ethnic background—then by moving up the social ladder, which makes the affected person less of a target. Conversely, stigma, prejudice, and discrimination against those with mental illness cut across all classes and social groups, and, to the extent that many mental conditions are chronic and incapacitating, those affected can hardly migrate out of the grip of negative social attitudes. The result is social annihilation that constricts the lives of those with mental illness, preventing them from fully reengaging in their communities and participating in the social activities of their groups of reference.

The general public most frequently makes contact with mental illness through the media or the movies. Unfortunately, the media often depict patients as unpredictable, violent, and dangerous (1), and movies usually follow the popular “psycho- killer” plot (2) long exploited by the cinematographic industry. Associating mental illness with violence helps to perpetuate stigmatizing and discriminatory practices against mentally ill persons; it is only one of many negative stereotypes and common prejudicial attitudes about them.

...

Prejudice often stems from ignorance or unwillingness to find the truth. For example, a study conducted by the Ontario Division of the Canadian Mental Health Association in 1993–1994 found that the most prevalent misconceptions about mental illness include the belief that mental patients are dangerous and violent (88%); that they have a low IQ or are developmentally handicapped (40%); that they cannot function, hold a job, or have anything to contribute (32%); that they lack willpower or are weak and lazy (24%); that they are unpredictable (20%); and finally, that they are to be blamed for their own condition and should just “shape up” (20%) (17). Similarly, a survey among first-year university students in the US found that almost two-thirds believed “multiple personalities” to be a common symptom of schizophrenia, and a poll among the general public found that 55% did not believe that mental illness exists, with only 1% acknowledging that mental illness is a major health problem (18). Some of these myths also surfaced in a study conducted in Calgary during the pilot phase of the World Psychiatric Association (WPA) project Open the Doors (19). Respondents to this study believed that persons with schizophrenia cannot work in regular jobs (72%), have a split personality (47%), and are dangerous to the public because of violent behaviour (14%) (20).

...

Sensational media reports (24,25) reinforce beliefs instilled by movies that depict mental health patients as “uncontrollable killers.” Relatives of the mentally ill assert that the way they are depicted in movies is the most important contributor to stigmatization (26). Movies have stigmatized not only those with mental illness but also psychiatrists, often extending negative stereotypes to portray them as libidinous lechers, eccentric buffoons, and evil-minded, vindictive, and repressive agents of the social system—and in the case of female psychiatrists, as loveless and sexually unfulfilled (27)."


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For further reading on the papers brought up in this editorial, see:

Stigma and the Daily News: Evaluation of a Newspaper Intervention
http://www.cpa-apc.org/Publications/Archives/CJP/2003/november/stuart.asp

Interventions to Reduce the Stigma Associated With Severe Mental Illness
http://www.cpa-apc.org/Publications/Archives/CJP/2003/november/gaebel.asp

Determinants of the Public’s Preference for Social Distance From People With Schizophrenia
http://www.cpa-apc.org/Publications/Archives/CJP/2003/november/angermeyer.asp

Also, see...

TEN THINGS YOU CAN DO TO FIGHT STIGMA
http://www.naminys.org/factsheets.htm

"3. WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE. Most of us, including mental health professionals and mental health consumers, use terms and expressions related to mental illness that may perpetuate stigma. We use psychiatric labels to disparage, such as when we complain about aggressive drivers and call them "nuts" and "lunatics." We also depersonalize sufferers of mental illness by referring to them generically as "the mentally ill" or as "a schizophrenic." We can avoid contributing to stigma by avoiding such language and by using People First language to refer to individuals with psychiatric disorders.

4. MONITOR MEDIA AND REPORT STIGMATIZING MATERIAL to any of a number of organizations. The National Stigma Clearinghouse, the National Mental Health Association, and the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill protest such material by contacting the people -- authors, editors, movie producers, advertisers -- responsible for the material.

5. RESPOND TO STIGMATIZING MATERIAL IN THE MEDIA. Write, call, or e-mail stigmatizers yourself, expressing your concerns and providing more accurate information that they can use. The organizations mentioned above can help you figure out who to contact."
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:22 PM
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18. Willw to Bush Campaigner:
Pop this beeee-otcccchhh.

but seriously, doesn't this validate everything you've ever known about the brazen comtempt that the repuke party has for the working class?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:27 PM
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21. I Guess That Qualifies As "Compassionate Conservatism"????
:shrug:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:29 PM
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22. Will they ever stop whoring for the drug companies!
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pschoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:30 PM
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24. Sun King assistant Susan Shyabani says "Let them eat Cake"
Since low quality jobs rarely have Health coverage, how would they pay for the prozac?
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:37 PM
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25. Rate it high people, let's get it on the front page ...
...nt
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:39 PM
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26. You have to admit, there's precedent.
Don't we routinely drug children so they fit into the current school system less disruptively? How is drugging workers to make them "happy" much of a stretch. Argh.

I, personally, prefer self-medicating, preferably with an icy T&T.
Sabriel
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:39 PM
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27. unhappy soon to be unemployed bush campaign workers
are going to need more than prozac to ease their misery. Republicans are so testy these days. Wonder why?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:40 PM
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28. Totally....out....of....touch.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:40 PM
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29. Talk about "out of touch elitists"!
Let her go to a small town in the midwest, which has lost its factories and where there is no where to go but WalMart -- and offer this solution. This (word which cannot be said on DU) has no fucking clue about what life is like for people who have found themselves on the margins of economic life even though they are hardworking! I guess they supposed to just pack their belongings in their Lexus and move to another part of the country, or something. After all, isn't that what humble Mexicans do -- move away from their homes and send money back from their jobs cleaning motel rooms and picking grapes? And look how happy they are! /sarcasm off

Yet, this is a "given" by republican economic elitists. I am reminded of a bizarre discussion years ago on the subject of medieval serfs, in which the classroom Stalworth Republican Conservative opined that if serfs were really unhappy about their situation, they should have moved and found another line of work. He did not realize what an absurd anachronism he was offering, that "choice" is a very modern concept, and arguably a very elitist one. I am also reminded of another Stalworth Republican Conservative opining that the reason people in Bolivia were impoverished was because they were not hard workers, and that if they just rolled up their sleeves and got to it, they would be well off -- never mind that Andean people live at the very margins of sustainable life! Yes, if you refuse to look at things, you can try to pretend that they don't exist.

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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:42 PM
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30. Yeah, if they don't like
McDonald's, they can just go work for Burger King!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:45 PM
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31. first they tried Cake, then Ketchup, now Prozac
Didn't work last time, won't work this time.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:53 PM
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32. Didn't Colin Powell say they all took Ambien?
Are they all on drugs???
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JustCarbon Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:06 PM
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37. ambien?
Ambien the sleeping pill?
You know if you take enough, you actually hallucinate.
If you take too much you can go into a coma.

Now I don't wish ill-will on anyone but...
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:21 PM
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43. Ambien!
Zolpidem ( Ambien ) is a Sleeping pill from a newer group of drugs called imidzopyridines. Used primarily for short-term treatment of insomnia in adults.

...Never Take a Double Dose!....The habit-forming potential is high. Psychological and physical dependence is possible. Do not stop taking this drug abruptly, this could cause psychological and physical withdrawal symptoms.
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JustCarbon Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:28 PM
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46. around here
People use ambien to get "high"
Of course this IS CA, and the devil resides here

I've got bad insomnia and take ambien from time to time and yes it is habit forming and yes there is a certain amount of tolerance that accompanies its use...

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:38 PM
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47. Well, if it's all the same....
I would prefer the Bush* misadministration not dabble in recreational drugs, especially one that can bring on hallucinations and paranoia. Sadly, evidence indicates it's too late.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:28 PM
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77. Ambien is one f**ed up drug
My doctor prescribed some for me for an overseas flight (I don't like to fly unless I am knocked out). I took one and have no recollection of anything, not even drifting off, until I was in my hotel.

Usually, with a sedative type drug you will gradually feel more and more sleepy until you nod off. The person I was traveling with said that I went from totally coherent to completely out of it like the flip of a switch.

I won't try it again.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:13 PM
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40. I believe so
Powell described his killer schedule in an interview with Abdul Rahman Al-Rashed, a reporter for a London-based Saudi newspaper.

"So do you use sleeping tablets to organize yourself?" Al-Rashed asked.

"Yes. Well, I wouldn't call them that," Powell said. "They're a wonderful medication -- not medication. How would you call it? They're called Ambien, which is very good. You don't use Ambien? Everybody here uses Ambien."
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 01:58 PM
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33. A gram is better than a damn
Bushco won't be happy until the entire damn country is on Soma.

AND paying a high price for it. Profit is everything to the Ferengi Party.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:00 PM
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34. "Let them eat cake..."
she replied, when told the peasants had no bread to eat.

Compassionate conservatism, my ass. This is entirely indicative of the Administrations attitude toward the masses. And I am tired of people implying that Prozac is a happy pill that will cure any emotional thing that ails you.

Get new jobs if they're unhappy?? Nice one, bitch.
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Mara Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:43 PM
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50. EXACTLY!! Thank you. n/t
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:03 PM
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35. will this get the same play as 'shove it' ? eom
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JustCarbon Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:04 PM
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36. haha
prozac is the new crack

do you think bush is doing lines of prozac now?
reliving his youth?

I think someone should tell that chick that I'm sure more people would medicate themselves if they had better health care and insurance coverage. Bitch.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:12 PM
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39. Just kidding? Conservative compassionate assbites. N/T
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:14 PM
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41. I'm still trying to figure out this line:
"recent job growth has buoyed the Bush campaign". Job growth? Where???
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:16 PM
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42. Ummm, What does Prozac Cost?
Don't you have to have health insurance to afford it?

That, or try to pay for it out of pocket with your new, lower salary/hourly wage at Wal-Mart or the local gas station, or the company that is now paying you 20-50% less than before with NO bennies such as health insurance.

Riiiight...what an arrogant, assinine comment.

"let them eat cake..."?

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mantis49 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:23 PM
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71. It's available in generic form which is much cheaper. n/t
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:23 PM
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44. That's fine give me food, roof over my head and healthcare that
covers this shit and I will be happy to see the doctor!!! (Won't take Prozac though!)

My answer: Give us all healthcare then you idiot!
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:42 PM
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49. Whether it's legal or illegal drugs....Bush is a "DOPEHEAD"!
and it appears that so are many on his staff. Promoting Prozac is the same as being a "drug dealer"!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:45 PM
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51. Thank you Reuters
AP would never have reported that. Reuters knew better than to give it a byline but the bushies will be able to track it down with the info given.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:55 PM
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54. Make sure to rate this story!
eom
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DoktorGreg Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:56 PM
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55. Would be happy to, But I dont have health insurance!
And with health insurance rates incresing 15% annually (and massive co-pays on things like prozak), soon you wont have health insurance to.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:57 PM
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56. I think the insensitivity to the Bush regime has reached it's apex.
How do we begin proceedings to rid America of these calloused idiots?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 02:57 PM
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57. Ah, 'Compassionate Conservatism'.
Guess what, beyotch? People who are unhappy with their low-paying shit jobs can't afford Prozac, so many will do what they've always been doing--self-medicate by drinking lots of booze and taking illegal drugs! Then, when they finally find that decent job after scouring for months in the Classifieds, they don't get it because they failed the drug test! Gotta love those 'pubs.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:02 PM
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58. "Oh Brave New World
That hath such Hucksters in it!"

It has been Orwell's turn for too long.
Score one for Huxley!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:05 PM
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59. thank you Susie Sheybani
rare moment of honesty from the GOP.

:toast:



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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:06 PM
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60. It shows the depth of concern that conservatives have
I see it all the time where I work and where my wife works. Both places are owned by wealthy Republicans.

They feel nothing for the workers making next to nothing and the make sure they get written up if they make any small violation of policy.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:13 PM
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62. Clueless in America!
Wow! She disses both workers in dead-end jobs and those living with mental illness in one fell swoop.

What a bloody, clueless idiot. And the Bush campaign hired her? Need we say more about why Bush has no place in US politics?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 03:55 PM
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64. Enemy combatant Sheybani sounds depressed ...

... I bet a few weeks of ECT at St Abu-Ghraib Hospital would help.
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 04:00 PM
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65. Sorry, no health insurance.
We can't afford your damn prozac.

:puke:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 04:49 PM
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67. "Why don't they go on Prozac?" = the new "Let them eat cake."
:mad:
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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 04:59 PM
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68. Will this comment make the news headlines or should she say "shove it?"
I am sure this comment will be given little or no time on the air tonight but I am going to try to call into Chris or e-mail him and ask why this comment is not a topic of "disgustion."
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:14 PM
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69. The copayments are too high
They can't afford it.
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sandraj Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:31 PM
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72. "Let Them Take Prozac"
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 05:33 PM by sandraj
The 2004 version of Let Them Eat Cake.


"When told the Prozac comment had been overheard, Sheybani said: 'Oh, I was just kidding.'"

Haha, Susan. Funny joke. Really. Hilarious.



On Edit: oops, couple of people beat me the let them eat cake reference. I scrolled down too quickly.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:26 PM
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82. Just kidding?
Isn't that what the guy who made the "stupid dirty girl" comment to the kid say?

Ha.


Ha.

One more reason to hate Repugs: They have a mean and stupid sense of humor.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:43 PM
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73. Photo of the clueless princess


She was a "Cherry Blossom Princess" you know...
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sandraj Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 06:53 PM
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79. Like, omigod
let them, like, take some, like, Prozac, y'know? Fer sher.

I'm so cute. I'm so funny. Teeheehee.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:43 PM
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92. Susan done lost her 'cherry'
Oh, sorry Susan, just kidding.
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:49 PM
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74. Its current average rating is 3.78 with 560 vote(s). N/T



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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 05:51 PM
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75. a gramme is better than a damn!
yikes..
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:04 PM
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80. Conservative = stingy, selfish, self-serving. Is that stigmatizing?
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:20 PM
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81. like Prozac is going to help me pay the bills
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 07:21 PM by Zech Marquis
I'm not going to start poping pills like * apparently is :argh: besides, he'll have plently of time for Prozac and any kind of drug he wants after January 20th :bounce:
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 07:35 PM
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83. The Proletariat must be kept from realizing...
that they are being exploited and abused by the Bourgeoisie. The best way to accomplish that is to keep them drugged, and ashamed of being unhappy in their bullshit jobs. I say, bring on Class Consciousness, and quickly, then we'll see who needs the Prozac (we'll make it part of your prison medication, SusieQ)
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MRDU Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:10 PM
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84. Take a pill!
worked for Elvis LOL!
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MRDU Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 11:57 PM
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86. LET THEM EAT PROZAC!
This is the kind of moron that works for Bush*'s relection!

LOL!

Let them eat Prozac indeed!
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 01:51 AM
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88. Turn their second and third homes into homeless shelters!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 02:29 AM
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89. The article is rated 3.78 with 916 votes.
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 02:33 AM by NYC
Not bad.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 10:40 AM
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90. Cheney off!!
You sick twisted individual.

Better get some prescritions filled for after November you inhuman BUSH supporter.

KEEP THIS KICKED!!!!
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:58 AM
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91. Good Thing I Take Zoloft
Or else I would go on a rant wholly inappropriate for this board :grr:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 01:00 PM
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93. Dick Cheney Would Be Proud
By telling people trapped in crappy jobs to get a great job or get medicated, this person might as well have said "FUCK OFF, AMERICA". Same thing. Or they could have said something like "let them all be tycoons and bankers" to those in dead end jobs in a stagnant economy.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 02:35 PM
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94. "Why don't they get new jobs if they're unhappy?"
Um, I dunno, maybe 'cause they've all been outsourced? Maybe 'cause your boss has lost more jobs than any pResident since Hoover (and still has a shot at the record)? Could that be it?

Oh yes, nice plug for massive repuke contributor Eli Lilly by mentioning Prozac by name. :puke:
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 03:19 PM
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95. Female Neocon's and "Family Values."
Susan Sheybani an assistant to Bush Campaign spokes man Terry Holt,
"Why don't they get new jobs, if they're unhappy...or go on prozac?"

RNC Spokewoman Tara Wall refereed to John Edwards as "sloppy seconds," when John Kerry had supposedly been turned down by John McCain as his VP. The term is used for the second person in line at a gang-bang. Now how would a nice Neocon girl just over-flowing with those "family values," know what this term means????

Seems like Teresa's "shove it," comment is mild compared to the statements coming from the Neocon women: Anne Coulter and Susan and Tara!
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 04:03 PM
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96. Must work for her
But there is not enough Prozac in the Western Hemisphere that would make me feel good if I had her job.


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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 06:05 PM
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97. in the 60s and 70s, women who were unhappy were prescibed
something (don't remember what) to keep them calm and happy and away from thinking there might actually be real problems making them unhappy with their lives

anyone remember what was prescribed??
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 06:25 PM
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98. I'm George Boo$h and I approve this message.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:46 PM
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99. Can we order it from Canada?
Come on. Roll, er, throw us a bone here!
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