"HIGH-LEVEL AL QAEDA OPERATIVE" CAPTURED

[Goldmund]

Breaking on CNN:

Security forces have captured a high-level al Qaeda operative in a raid in central Pakistan, Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat said.

www.cnn.com

Also something for you to chew on: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_10-7-2004_pg1_8

[enki23]

1. fucking shameless

.

[benburch]

6. This is what Bush paid for.

nice to know his stooges in Pakistan can be relied upon.

[htuttle]

21. And the only cost....

...is turning the other cheek when Pakistan continues selling nuclear technology to the highest bidder with impunity. Oh, that, and about a half-billion dollars in loans forgiven this year alone.

Such a deal...

[Warpy]

67. Shameless? Try panicked.

They're listening to the rhetoric at the DNC and they're panicking, which is making them consider hauling out their Octorber surprise earlier than they'd planned.

[Aunt Anti-bush]

108. My sentiments exactly.

Without even scrolling down, once I read that, I said the same exact thing.

[phantom power]

147. This doesn't worry me as much as it used to

At the end of the day, people are going to continue dying in Iraq and Afghanitstan. The economy will continue to suck, and the GOP will continue to fail at solving any important problems.

I think people are beginning to cotton on to how little these so-called "HVT" characters matter.

[Walt Starr]

2. Wow, like DUers have predicted this for months

:eyes:

[Bluebear]

3. How conveeeeeeeeeenient!

[spotbird]

4. Wow, and during the Democratic convention!

What a coincidence!

[liberalmuse]

5. We knew this was coming.

Perfectly timed to coincide with Kerry's big speech.

[piece sine]

56. "we interupt our braodcast of Sen. Kerry's acceptance speech..

...go to Crawford, Texas, where President Bush will announce the capture of Usama bin Laden." WTF!

[progressivebydesign]

145. I suggest that we ALL take the links we have from a few weeks ago..

.. and paste them EVERYWHERE tonight!! On EVERY message board and blog you can find.. Let the Rovian Reptilians KNOW that we're sooo on to them. AND let some of the voters, who do not read the foreign media, KNOW what Bush is doing with OUR tax money.

[jjmalonejr]

7. Yes, but is he a "mastermind"

I suspect so. From what I read, they're all "masterminds."

[Kikosexy2]

14. The ...

July surprise surfaces! How predictable!

[54anickel]

8. Who could it be? Tell me, tell me please! Oh, wait they'll hold

off until Kerry's on tonight, won't they.

[otohara]

69. You Got That Right!

This is _____________from ___________News. We interrupt John Kerry's acceptant speech to bring you the name of the high ranking Al Quada member arrested earlier in Pakistan

[trumad]

9. It's the niece of the son of the Uncle of the aunt

of the family Butler of the Dad of the friend of the camel herder of Bin Ladens distant 2nd cousin.

All in time for JK's speech tonight!

[bluestateguy]

10. Get out your Osama bin Lotto numbers

You may win some money if you picked tonight.

[fob]

30. I picked OBL, in Afghanistan, July 29 at 5 minutes after Kerry's speech

Looks like they went a little earlier, and we'll have to see who it is, and where they "caught" him at.

[Tempest]

11. In Pakistan?

Tell me again what we're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[htuttle]

27. Hunting wabbits!

Be vewy, vewy quiet!

[seemslikeadream]

Porky hunting them too!

[Toots]

143. Wascally Wabbits

[aquart]

117. That's the Good Question of the Year!

[ewagner]

12. High-Level?

Hmmmm...wasn't the last one the 2nd Assistant Deputy Goat-Herder?

If this is REALLY Usama, then the predictions about the push to capture him during the Dem convention were right. But, as always we have to wait and see with these stories.

[RobertSeattle]

13. This isn't Wag the Dog it is Wag the PACK

Un F'ing Believable - what timing.

[54anickel]

15. Wow, look at the time stamps of all these replies!!!

[librechik]

18. stop talking all at once! n/t

[lapfog_1]

16. How tall is he?

Seriously. We've been saying this since I joined.

[Minstrel Boy]

17. remember "Pakistan for Bush: July Surprise?"

Meanwhile, an explosive new article has just come out in the new edition of The New Republic magazine called "Pakistan for Bush: July Surprise?" It charges that the Bush administration may be pressuring Pakistan to deliver a so-called "High Value Target" before November-ideally at the height of the Democratic National Convention at the end of this month. Such a move would surely eclipse John Kerry's moment in the national spotlight and could lessen the boost in the polls Kerry is expected to gain during the convention.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/09/144235

[iconoclastic cat]

19. There isn't anything on the CNN website.

No way is it OBL. My money is on the third-cousin thing.

[Goldmund]

22. It just broke.

They haven't had time to write an article yet.

[Walt Starr]

25. It's at the top in the banner. Breaking News

BREAKING NEWS Security forces have captured a high-level al Qaeda operative in a raid in central Pakistan, Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat said.

[bif]

20. Is it the guy who cleans Al Qaeda's swimming pools this time?

Just wondering.

[LiberalEsto]

23. Press conference

I'll betcha their press conference will begin at 10 p.m. just when Kerry takes the podium.

Has there ever been a group of people more petty, vicious, selfish or morally bankrupt as these stinking 'thugs? They make the Ferengi of Star Trek look like little angels.

[rucky]

24. It's their subtilty that impresses me the most. n/t

[0007]

75. Very subtle. LOL!!

[Career Prole]

26. It'll be like the Arab chimera they had "cornered" a while back.

It'll make headlines for a week and then they'll say he slipped away somehow...I wish the weather was as predictable as Karl Rove.

[freetobegay]

28. Which Bush official did they catch?

[grytpype]

29. Don't worry about it...

... how is this different from any other "al Qaeda leader but not bin Laden captured" story? There have been a dozen of those at least.

[Rockholm]

31. UNBELIEVABLE!

As all have already said, we have been predictiing this for MONTHS. If it is not Osama then is probably just a sick hoax. Just watch for the additional breaking news to come out around 8:30pm or so just to twist the screws. No real news, just FAUX news conferences.

[West Coast Democrat]

32. Ah....and it won't get enough media attention because of the convention...

too bad for Mr. Rove!!

(Here's hoping no one pays it the least bit of attention)

[doctorbombeigh]

65. This is GREAT

We know they've had this Pakistan guy in their back pocket for a long time, they have others lurking somewhere, I'm sure. Maybe even Osama himself - though I have long suspected that he is dead and that's why it's been so important to build up the reputation of other Al Qaeda members in our eyes.

The thing is - they're both too early AND too late. They've been miscalculating for four years, why stop now? It's too late to change our minds about the mess Bush has made in Iraq. Kerry's numbers (and their own) have them in panic-world. More and more their "use terrorism" response to every situation wears thin with the American public. If they're going to it now, instead of saving it for later it's win-win for us.

I'm listening to CNN right now - they're covering the convention NOT the distraction.

[janx]

95. Bin Laden's not dead. n/t

[AndyTiedye]

150. The Networks Are Just Looking for an Excuse to Blow off the Dem Convention

and especially Kerry's acceptance speech.

[Wind Dancer]

Well, we knew * had pressured Pakistan to deliver

during the convention, wonder what name they will make up? Nice to know the Pakistan government sleeps with *, disgusting.

[tom_paine]

33. Well, that was as surprising as Hitler Invading Poland

The world tembles like it's 1938.

because it IS 1938. That year has come back and we replay it again.

[stavka]

40. I thought Poland attacked Germany at a radio station?

...so, the 80% of the German Army, that fortunately for Germany's sake was fully mobilized on the border at the time invaded in self defense.

[tom_paine]

46. That's true because I heard it on Rush and saw it on Faux "News"

Got a problem with that, Juden?

</sarcasm off>

[LTR]

34. Okay, here it is

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=721&e=1&u=/nm/20040729/wl_nm/security_qaeda_pakistan_minister_dc

Pakistan Says It Captures a 'Most Wanted' Qaeda Man

11 minutes ago

LONDON (Reuters) - Pakistan has arrested a senior al Qaeda figure with a bounty of up to $25 million on his head, Interior Minister Makhdoom Faisal Saleh Hayat told CNN television Thursday.

He said the suspect had been captured during a raid in central Pakistan a few days ago. He did not identify the captive but said he was "a person who is most wanted internationally."

Ummmm....WHO?

[slinkerwink]

38. I knew it! It's Osama Bin Laden!

Those fucking Republican creeps.

[pmbryant]

42. Captured "a few days ago"

Hmmmm...

:shrug:

Peter

[SaveElmer]

35. Unless it's OBL

It won't matter...there have been dozens of these!!!

[Walt Starr]

39. They'll announce it's Osama

When Kerry takes the stage.

Watch.

[Goldmund]

73. Me thinks...

it's more likely that the Pakistanis got all sorts of threats from the Bushies a-la "capture Osama at the end of July or else", and the poor things tried and tried and this is the best they could come up with -- Ghaliani...

[TankLV]

83. They got Rudy?! - the former mayor of NYC?!

I didn't know he was a repuke AND Al Queda too!

[Name removed]

90. Deleted message

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[Name removed]

96. Deleted message

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[TankLV]

141. Damn - had to be productive at work today - missed the entertaining

responses.

You all must've caught another "mouse"!

Guess this one was particularly bad - they were gone in no time!

[cal04]

36. Link from news 24

Pakistan has arrested a senior al-Qaeda figure with a bounty of up to $25m on his head, Interior Minister Makhdoom Faisal Saleh Hayat told CNN television on Thursday.

He said the suspect had been captured during a raid in central Pakistan a few days ago.

He did not identify the captive but said he was "a person who is most wanted internationally".

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1565446,00.html

[stavka]

44. They all have "up to $25 million rewards"

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/fugitives.htm

[Sabriel]

59. I love that "up to $25 mill" thing.

It's like the "save up to 75%"...which turns out to be merely 10%.

[RobertSeattle]

37. Link from New Republic article that PREDICTED this

https://ssl.tnr.com/p/docsub.mhtml?i=20040719&s=aaj071904

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_07/004267.php

[dbt]

41. From Reuters via ABC:

LONDON (Reuters) - Pakistan has arrested a senior al Qaeda figure with a bounty of up to $25 million on his head, Interior Minister Makhdoom Faisal Saleh Hayat told CNN television Thursday.

More, but not much

dbt

[Walt Starr]

43. It's FUCKING bin LAden

They thawed his ass out:

The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama Bin Laden. An additional $2 million is being offered through a program developed and funded by the Airline Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association.

From the FBI most wanted site:

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

Nobody else has a $25 million bounty on their head.

We fucking PREDICTED THE BASTARDS WOULD PULL THIS SHIT!!!

[West Coast Democrat]

49. If it were Usama...

wouldn't they just say so?

[Walt Starr]

52. Not until Kerry takes the stage tonight

They have to upstage Kerry.

[West Coast Democrat]

62. Why not upstage the entire evening?

[TankLV]

86. OK, now - isn't it "Osama"?

I'm getting all confused now.

First it was Rudy Guillani, now it's some guy called Usama.

My head hurts.

[janx]

102. It's the Tanzanian Devil.

And he has horns.

[West Coast Democrat]

103. His name is actually spelled with a U

Bushco changed the spelling

[Kool Kitty]

142. Of course they'll just say so-

at 9:55 PM EDT this evening.

[Wind Dancer]

51. I had forgotten about the increase to

$25 million! This is a nightmare!

[Brotherjohn]

57. I find it interesting that the FBI Most Wanted post doesn't mention 9-11.

I mean, we KNOW he was the mastermind behind 9-11.

...Don't we?

Anyone?

[Minstrel Boy]

48. photo of mystery captive:

State Department reports his first words to be "Yup, it's me alright. Mr Big. The Head Honcho. Damn you, George Bush!"

[Newsjock]

45. AP: IT'S NOT OSAMA

Pakistan arrests leading al-Qaida suspect in connection with
African embassy bombings

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistan has arrested Ahmed Khalfan
Ghailani, a Tanzanian al-Qaida suspect with a $5 million reward on
his head in connection with the dual 1998 bombings at U.S.
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the interior minister said Friday.

Ghailani was arrested on Sunday in the eastern city of Gujrat
along with at least 15 others, Interior Minister Faisal Saleh
Hayyat told Pakistan’s Geo television network.

[Renew Deal]

50. Here's your boy

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/terghailani.htm

[underpants]

DAMN! politics be damned --Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani?

#8?

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/fugitives.htm

[daleo]

64. Only number 8?

I think they must have announced capturing the #2 guy at least a half dozen times by now.

[underpants]

66. Yeah the Ron Jeremy guy WAS #23 THEN he was #2

Something like that

[Rockholm]

71. Looks a tad like Michael Jackson before going pale?

[dbt]

54. Nice going, Newsjock!

From One Who Is Inside to Another!

;-)
dbt

[aquart]

135. Well, talk about your anti-climax.

This 'un taint nuthin'.

[pale reflection]

47. I'm not buying it...

Why would the Bushies spring it today if they got bin Laden a few days ago? Kerry isn't scheduled to make any groundbreaking speech tonight, so why not wait until the RNC, where it would give them the most boost, or at least wiat untli tomorrow, to completely sap the bounce from the DNC?

It doesn't make sense...

[Goldmund]

61. Not quite

First, Kerry is supposed to make the most important speech of his career so far tonight. Second, if doing this today instead of tomorrow makes his speech -- already prepared -- not timely. IF this is OBL, of course.

[pale reflection]

88. it wasn't

Didn't think it would be

[LTR]

53. Here are your choices

Take your pick

http://www.rewardsforjustice.net /

http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/nypd/html/wanted/wanted_te...

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/fugitives.htm

[nolabels]

72. I didn't see the one I suspected ;^)

http://www.bushnetwork.com/index2.php

900+ young Americans are dead, 6,000+ injured, and $250+ billion dollars wasted because of Bush and his lies about WMDs and Iraq. How many more Americans will come home in bodybags, and how many more tax dollars will be wasted, before Bush is impeached?
http://fixco1.com/


Cheney at the Helm

At Halliburton, oil and human rights did not mix

By Wayne Madsen

Dick Cheney, George W. Bush's running mate, is a far cry from the "aw, shucks" kind of Wyoming cowboy-politician painted by Republican strategists. When he was at the helm of the Dallas-based oil services giant Halliburton, Inc., from 1995 until his nomination, the company and its subsidiaries--Brown & Root and Dresser Industries--were deeply enmeshed in the military-intelligence complex.

After serving as Secretary of Defense in Bush the Elder's Administration and making Kuwait safe once again for U.S. oil companies, Cheney went around the country making speeches. But when the CEO spot opened up at Halliburton, the board of directors tapped him, knowing that his connections would come in handy. They just didn't know how handy.

For instance, after Halliburton acquired Dresser in 1998, it helped rebuild Iraq's petroleum industry, which Cheney and the Pentagon had decimated during Desert Storm.

During a 1998 speech in Corpus Christi, Texas, Cheney conceded that his top job at the Pentagon stood him in good stead at Halliburton. "In the oil and gas business, I deal with many of the same people," he told the convention of the Gulf Coast Association of Geological Societies.
(snip)
http://www.progressive.org/wm0900.htm

[russian33]

55. "...suspect may be Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani..."

The Pakistani president said the arrested person is Tanzanian who is married to an Uzbek woman, and who is wanted by the United States," the station said.


Al Arabiya said the suspect may be Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, a Tanzanian who is on the FBI (news - web sites)'s most wanted "terrorists" list for his alleged role in the 1998 bombings by al Qaeda of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.


Ghailani was among seven people about whom the United States said in May it was seeking information amid fears of a possible attack in the near future.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&e=1&u=/nm/20040729/wl_nm/security_qaeda_pakistan_dc

[chookie]

58. It's Bill Clinton!

That would suit them even better than catching OBL.

[necso]

60. This is just one of many "events",

that Bush$Co has planned between now and the election.

They get their front page play, and if it turns out to be BS --- well that just gets lost on the back pages somewhere --- if it gets any play at all.

The media is Bush$Co's: bought and sold or just beaten down, but Bush$Co's, pure and simple.

I do suspect, however, that if Kerry manages to take office, that the media will suddenly discover their "independence" again. -- Gives us something to look forward to!

[a_random_joel]

63. He was captured "A few days ago"...

Per the acbnews link posted on this thread.

Not OBL, but still gotta question the timing.

[klook]

74. Yeah, like probably 90 days ago.... n/t

[supernova]

68. He's probably Tanzanian

so it's not Usama. From the BBC:

"The Pakistani president said the arrested person is Tanzanian who is married to an Uzbek woman, and who is wanted by the United States," the Arabic television station al-Arabiya said, quoting President Pervez Musharraf.

Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani appears to match the description, as given on the FBI's most wanted list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3938133.stm

[swag]

70. That's It! I'm voting for Musharraf!

[Walt Starr]

76. bin Laden is slated for capture on September 2nd at 10:05 PM EDT

Andy Card is scheduled to walk on stage and whisper it in Shrubco*'s ear.

[Parche]

77. Albert Kida

Didnt they catch this guy a year ago, and now they are catching him again

[andino]

78. It only took them three years and a Iraqi war

to get him. If it is him.

How many other terror attack has he planned during that time?
How many people died while we were in Iraq fighting when we could have been after Osama?
How much money was thrown away in Iraq when it could have been better spent in Afghanistan?

I'm sorry, but there are far too many issues with BushCo than JUST Osama. I still think that the bump from a Osama capture will be about the same as the Saddam capture. Small and not lasting.

Bush is done in November.

[janx]

87. I agree with you. This isn't a Bin Laden capture, but even if

it were, it could not reverse the damage that Chimpy has done to our country.

Chimpy's administration has been nothing short of a disgrace, and the American people are going to vote him out in November. It's very clear how much Americans crave change right now.

An Osama capture, while it would be good news for everyone, is far too late. It has been almost three years, and nobody even knows where the guy is.

Instead, Chimpy sent our sons and daughters traipsing to Iraq to get their limbs and heads blown off.

[NoBorders]

79. had him a few days, and release news today

at the behest of Rove. So transparent.

[papau]

80. timing is important!

:-)

[Dover]

81. LOL...FBI terror alerts in N.M and Calif., Al-Q boogie man caught

It sure seems like the Fourth of July all over again with this last big display when they just let loose all the fireworks at the grand finale!

Oh....I just get such a thrill....bombs bursting in air gave proof through July that the GOP was still there.

[Career Prole]

82. Boy...talk about your basic anticlimactic stories!

Hayat said the east African, who was sought internationally, was captured "a few days back," and his capture shows "Pakistan is committed to fighting terrorism."

After that GIANT RED BANNER on top of CNN's webpage, I didn't even get a "breaking news alert" in my inbox. What a joke!

[underpants]

84. Hey but HE's NUMBER 8!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/fugitives.htm

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/terghailani.htm

[Screaming Lord Byron]

85. He's not a number. He's a free man!

Bwaahaahaahaahaahaa!

[muriel_volestrangler]

128. No doubt he was captured

by a huge bouncing white ball ...

[Career Prole]

115. If that's all we get for our half-billion * can pretty much forget buying

number one. He done busted the piggy bank already. :eyes:

[DS1]

92. Arrested SUNDAY, reported today

what a surprise

[janx]

100. That is really funny--and desperate. FIVE DAYS later...

on the day of Kerry's speech.

And it's some guy we've never heard of. But hey, we should all be happy every time an Al Qaeda member is caught...

...too bad we have to rely on Pakistan and wait for year after year while Chimpy manages to have our soldiers blown up in Iraq for nothing.

[Barrett808]

105. THIS is what our $500 million loan forgiveness buys us? n/t

[bobbyboucher]

89. They don't even try to hide their bullshit, that is what is scary.

It's as if they know that no one will question the opportune timing. Their automoton nanobot followers believe EVERYthing that they want them to. It is downright fucking frightening.

[Goldmund]

91. I know

no shit...

[cal04]

93. What took so long to put this out

Bush, you're so predictable


Pakistan has arrested Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, a Tanzanian al-Qaeda suspect with a reward of up to $25m on his head in connection with the dual 1998 bombings at US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the interior minister said on Friday. hailani was arrested on Sunday in the eastern city of Gujrat along with at least 15 others, Faisal Saleh Hayyat told Pakistan's Geo television network.

"He was arrested a few days ago in an operation by security agencies in Gujrat," Hayyat said. "He was among the foreigners arrested in that operation." Ghailani is under indictment in the United States for the bombings, which killed more than 200 people.

"As a result of our investigation, it became clear that he was a major figure wanted for the bombings," Hayyat said. He said Ghailani was in Pakistani custody, but indicated he might be turned over to US authorities after investigations are completed.

Ghailani also goes by the names "Foopie," "Fupi" and "Ahmed the Tanzanian." Pakistan had said earlier that some of the 16 suspects arrested Sunday were from Africa, but had not said whether they were linked to al-Qaeda. The suspects were captured by police and intelligence agents during a raid on a house in the Industrial city of Gujrat early on Sunday after a 12-hour shootout.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1565456,00.html

[Goldmund]

94. They were waiting for the editing period on my thread-starting message to

...expire.

[bluedog]

112. 1988

Let's see here...1988 was five years before Clinton took office. Reagan was president in 1988, and he was followed by Poppy Bush in 1989.
How come neither of them caught the alQuaida responsible? If the Republicans had done their job,........well...........

[TheWraith]

122. 1998, not 1988.

As a side note, four Al Qaeda operatives were captured, convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment for their roles in the 1998 embassy bombings.

[Jax]

97. Reuters says it is "Ahmed Khalfan Ghailini"

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=556306§ion=news

"Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat identified the man as Ahmed Khalfan Ghailini and said he was a Tanzanian national wanted for the synchronised bombings that killed more than 200 people at the U.S. embassy in Kenya and 11 at the embassy in Tanzania.

"He carried head money of $25 million (14 million pounds)," Hayat told Reuters on Thursday.

He said Ghailani was one of about a dozen people arrested on Tuesday when security forces raided a suspected militant hideout in the city of Gujarat, about 175 km (110 miles) southeast of the capital Islamabad.

Ghailani is on the FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" list for his alleged role in the 1998 bombings, which also said it was "offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Ahmed Ghailani".


Jax

[Media_Lies_Daily]

98. Not even a "Breaking News" story now...have to search to find it...

<http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/07/29/pakistan.alqaeda.capture/index.html>

And they're not even sure they have the right guy:

"The minister said officials wanted to be sure of Ghailani's identity before making the capture public. He said Ghailani was being questioned."

[tandot]

99. I am glad that at least ONE country is trying to capture terrorists

Since Bush showed more interest in invading Iraq than hunting down terrorists and destroying their network.

What an incompetent moron we have as President. I can't wait for January when Kerry will be our President.

[janx]

101. Kerry is not going to mess around with any neocon dreams,

that's for sure. And from what Edwards said last night, it sounds as if we might finally get serious about Al Qaeda.

[klook]

104. This year's Willie Horton

The Republicans want a black man to scare the white folks.

[janx]

106. How old is that guy?! He looks about fourteen years old!

Was he some kind of powder monkey back in '98?

[klook]

107. He sure does.

Maybe it's his junior high school yearbook photos.

[Arioch]

109. Inform the media?

Is there any any way we can make the Major news media outlets aware of all the articles predicting this very event?

I am beyond disgusted...

[swag]

119. Good point - I've emailed CNN, MSNBC, and the networks

the links carried by talkingpointsmemo:

www.talkingpointsmemo.com

with references to the May and July articles. I've also sent the links with a little message to the "reasonable" columnist at my local paper.

Feel free to do likewise.

And WELCOME TO DU!

[Zorra]

110. Pakistan pressed to help Bush win / US writes off $500 mn Pak debt

Pakistan being pressed to capture Osama to help Bush win
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_10-7-2004_pg1_8
US writes off $500 mn Pak debt
K J M Varma in Islamabad | July 16, 2004 17:55 IST
Last Updated: July 16, 2004 18:51 IST

The US on Friday wrote-off nearly $500 million debt owed by Pakistan under an agreement signed between the two countries, a day after Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage visited Islamabad to discuss among other things Pakistan's chances of sending troops to Iraq.

The agreement to write-off $495.3 million debt was signed in Islamabad by US Ambassador to Pakistan Nancy Powell and Secretary of Pakistan Economic Division Waqar Masood Khan, taking the total debt cancellation during the past two years to $1.5 billion.

Powell appreciated Pakistan's economic policies initiated during the past five years and said the write-off marked a continuation of the US partnership with Pakistan.

"Our continued commitment to Pakistan is a vote of confidence in the economic stewardship of the Pakistani government and the intelligence, energy and resourcefulness of the Pakistani people," she said.

http://ushome.rediff.com/money/2004/jul/16us.htm

[swag]

111. Playing politics with terrorism

disgusting

[mtnester]

113. Defrost cycle -I told my husband last night

they would be defrosting Osama very soon. He laughed his butt off and then made a sick (but funny) Ted Williams joke. He also said "Yep, that makes perfect sense."

Also visited a friend of my mom's last night, and she talks a mile a minute about EVERYTHING, switching from topic to topic so fast I got whiplash...but one of the things she said when she was talking about being a news hound (now, read the whole thing) "I just love that Fox news, but that does not mean I am voting republican. The war is wrong, and we should not be there and I will NOT vote for the man who took us there" (said so fast I almost missed it)

I hear this a dozen times a week, seriously.

[Lorien]

114. how pathetically predictable

Trying to drowned out Kerry's speech any way they can. :eyes:

[JDPriestly]

116. Musharraf would be nuts to hand over Osama.

How would Musharraf pay his bills and stay in power if he didn't have the carrot, Osama to hang in front of Bush's nose. I wonder how much we paid to Pakistan to get this guy. Let's press for full disclosure on that one. Ha! Why don't we take bets on when we'll find that one out. I'd put my money on never.

[Disturbed]

123. Is Usama (Osama) bin Laden stupid?

Would he still be in hiding near or in Pakistan?

The CIA reported over two years ago that they suspected that he fled to Indonesia right after the US allowed many members of Al Q. to escape after the Bora Bora raid. I suspect that he will never be captured or seen again. When he dies he will be buried in a secret place. Usama is an icon to millions and his legend must be kept alive for as long as possible. Al Q. has expanded in spite of all the bluster of the Neo Fascists and is now decentralized in cells all over the globe. The Iraq and Afghanistan invasions spurred the growth of Islamic extremists and further actions by the US to dominate the ME will only cause the resistance to US Imperialism to expand.

[Endangered Specie]

118. Not Osama, theyre still saving him for either the RNC or election week.

[NEDem]

120. What a fucking disgrace!

This regime has absolutely no dignity at all. I sure hope that average people have enough of a brain left to see through this shit.

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[NEDem]

124. Of course its good.

However using captured terrorists for pure political gain is disgraceful. It demonstrates the lengths to which this regime will go to cover their sorry asses for everything else they've screwed up.

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[IA_Seth]

130. Naive

You are severely naive if you honestly think the US has no influence within Pakistan.

I would guess that it is more than naivety here really...

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[NEDem]

136. Funny,

I don't remember the whole "sovereign nation thing" applying at any other time when the Bush regime has been involved.

This is shameless.

[muriel_volestrangler]

137. How Bush affected this?

See the references in this thread - he asked the Pakistanis to catch someone during the Dem convention, forgave them $500 million in debt, and then they captured someone on Sunday, but waited till the day of Kerry's speech to tell anybody.

And there are (or certainly have been) American troops in Pakistan:
"In early December 2001, Pakistan agreed to an American request for a long-term presence at Jacobabad. The US requested 40,000 metric tons of concrete to renovate the base. A wall surrounding the base will be raised by four feet, and air-conditioned barracks would be built for US troops . All but a few Pakistani liaison officers would be withdrawn from the base. US forces would continue to maintain a presence at airfields in Pasni and Dalbandin."
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/jacobabad.htm

[janx]

134. Sure it's a good thing.

But we should have had these guys rounded up by now instead of sending our soldiers to die in Iraq for no reason.

[NEDem]

138. Absolutely correct.

[lebkuchen]

126. How many weeks of torture did he undergo in Syria

before admitting to something he'd never done?

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[IA_Seth]

132. 4 More?

4 more what?

4 more wars?

4 more Nations that view the US with contempt?

I have a feeling you won't be here long enough to respond.

[daveskilt]

151. 4 more Nations that view the US with contempt? are there 4 left that dont?

[janx]

139. Chimpy has been doing nothing of the kind.

He's been sending our sons and daughters to Iraq to get blown up instead, all because of some crazy neocon dream.

That's one reason he won't win in November.

[okieinpain]

140. scary shit, just think what would happen if a black male

does a sept 11 in america. oh my lord, this country would come unglued if it had to suspect two different sets of people.

[progressivebydesign]

144. BINGO!!!!!!!

On the DAY Kerry is supposed to speak!!! Hey ROVE! (I know your minions are reading this), we KNEW you were going to do this. We've been writing about it for weeks.. after we heard about it from the NON-American media, and after you forgave a fat debt with Pakistan. You pasty white old men are fucking shameless!!!

[The_Casual_Observer]

146. This is the best they can do

Dig up some puny little guy that is "suspected" of something and make a big deal about it a few hours before the big speech. Expect a lot more of these stunts and tricks in the next few months.

Oh, and did you know that chimp didn't lie? The poor guy was simply mislead, just like the rest of us!

[MattNC]

148. Great job by The New Republic

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040719&s=aaj071904

[TryingToWarnYou]

149. And his name is... Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/07/29/pakistan.alqaeda.capture/index.html

How convenient indeed.

I dont think they will be pre-empting Kerry's speech though, this guy just isnt big enough.

[tlcandie]

152. Well, it seems that Pakistan is playing their own game...

so for this regime it might be a catch 22 on getting Usama! I guess we will see exactly what he's worth to this regime, eh? How much more can they offer Pakistan?

It seems that Pakistan knows full well where Usama is hiding, but it might not be worth it to bring him in, so they play cat and mouse and put on a show now and then to prove they ARE diligently trying to capture him! They are baiting this regime and I'm not so sure they will give them Usama if it means a civil war for Pakistan. Guess we will see who is the wiliest? :shrug:

Another point to be made is that in capturing these supposedly HVTs, just how many have our soldiers captured? I'm not talking about the Iraq HVTs because those were a joke just like this invasion. I'm alluding to most of the HVTs coming in via other means rather than our soldiers who have died and/or are dying daily for this farce of a war against terrorism!

[varun]

153. For a "High Value Target"...

Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani sure lived in a nice house in Pakistan.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040730/481/lhr10207301718



Osama is surely in Musharraf's basement....

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

154. How far can Junior go with "Ladies and gentlemen, we didn't get him?"

Sounds like the Bush campaign need to investigate alternative sources of energy...



"The words of L. Paul Bremer, "We got him," are illuminated on the control tower at Basra's airport on Sunday, December 14, 2003"