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Neutrino Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:26 PM
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Al-Qaida called 9/11 attacks "Operation Holy Tuesday--CIA

it is said in this report KNEW about the meeting. This might
be what is supposed to be coming out next week. Lead from
The Agonist:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_798520.html?menu=
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:29 PM
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1. That name is bizarre.
It sounds like something Rumsfeld would come up with.
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Neutrino Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:33 PM
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3. Well if this is true, it is the Smoking Gun that

Maylasian Police tapped the phone and gave specific info to the CIA
about 9/11 before it happened! So Bush had to know.

I forgot to put the " after the name. It makes it look like CIA
is in the quote" Maybe "Operation Holy Tuesday" is the closest
translation from Arabic.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:33 PM
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Neutrino Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:35 PM
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4. I don't know much about Ananova. We'll all find out

next week.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:17 PM
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8. Not just Ananova
This has been reported other places, such as:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/130227_terror10.html

http://www.msnbc.com/news/936852.asp?0cl=c1

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/218.htm


Here's some comments I made in another post:

The fact that Mohammed attended that pivotal meeting in Malaysia is old news. Take for instance this CNN article:

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/07/30/seasia.state/

"In January of 2000, about a dozen of Osama bin Laden's trusted followers met here. The host was Hambali. Among those who attended: Tawfiq bin Attash, a key suspect in the bombing of the USS Cole 9 months later; Khalid Al-Midhar and Nawaf Al-Hazmi, who nearly two years later crashed a plane into the Pentagon, and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, Osama Bin Laden's lieutenant, a key planner, U.S. officials say, of September 11."

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The CIA is covering this fact up big time, because if he was there, the failure to stop 9/11 is completely inexplicable. Note what else they learned about Mohammed after the meeting, but before 9/11 (from my 9/11 timeline):

June 2001 (I): US intelligence learns that 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed is interested in "sending terrorists to the United States" and planning to assist their activities once they arrive. The 9/11 Congressional inquiry says the significance of this is not understood at the time, and data collection efforts are not subsequently "targeted on information about that might have helped understand al-Qaeda's plans and intentions." (Committee Findings, 12/11/02, Los Angeles Times, 12/12/02, USA Today, 12/12/02)

Summer 2001: Around this time, the NSA intercepts telephone conversations between 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Mohamed Atta, but apparently does not share the information with any other agencies. (Knight Ridder, 6/6/02, Independent, 6/6/02) Additionally, the NSA either fails to translate these messages in a timely fashion or fails to understand the significance of what was translated. (Knight Ridder, 6/6/02)

September 10, 2001 (F): Mohamed Atta calls Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the operational planner of the 9/11 attacks, in Afghanistan. Mohammed gives final approval to Atta to launch the attacks. This call is monitored and translated by the US, though it isn't known how quickly that takes, and the specifics of the conversation haven't been released. (Independent, 9/15/02)


So given their communication intercepts, they should have unravelled the plot easily. Mohammed was not some small potato at the time. He was already wanted for his role in the first WTC bombing, the Operation Bojinka plot, and many other plots. In 1997, the government of Qatar told the US that he was planning further airplane hijackings. By 1998, the US had a multi-million dollar bounty on his head, and he was easily one of the top 10 most wanted terrorists in the world by then.

He was able to attend that meeting in Malaysia, converse freely and repeatedly with Mohammed Atta, and talk about sending terrorists to the US, and the CIA and NSA didn't do anything with this info, or even give deciphering of communication with him a high priority??? (The NSA boasts of being able to decipher and translate top priority messages within an hour, so they should have had plenty of time with that last communication). And this is only what we know - the US gvmt is trying to keep all info about him classified. The Congressional 9/11 inquiry wasn't even allowed to refer to him by his name.

Sorry, I don't buy the "hopeless incompetence" argument. There's more here than meets the eye, including the likelihood that Mohammed was a double agent (read for instance this article, where his ties to the ISI, Pakistan's intelligence agency, are laid out: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayksmcapture.html ).
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Neutrino Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:37 PM
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5. If it's "boring", have another beer

don't wanna keep ya awake er nothin.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:53 PM
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6. this lends weight to those who said
The Bush Junta let it happen. I never really bought into that theory until now.

This may clear up why our interceptors stood down that day.
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Stanchetalarooni Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:09 AM
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10. Someone help me out here. Remind me once again.
What do the letters LIHOP stand for?
I happen to be one of those dot connectors. I take a lot of abuse for the computing that my 'proccessor' does.
LIHOP was never a certainty in my mind but rather, based on the number and quality of dots, more like a probability somewhat akin to a correlation coefficient.
A correlate doesn't prove causality, that is, it doesn't tell whether (a) causes (b) or (b) causes (a) to occur. Only that (a) and (b) occur together within a certain level of probability.
A 1.0 correlation coefficient means that (a) always occurs when (b) occurs.
A 0.9 correlation coefficient means that (a) and (b) occur together 90% of the time.
0.8, 80%.
0.75, 75% of the time.
I don't portend to know exactly how our 'proccessors work, how some of us have the ability to 'connect the dots' better than others (perhaps in our own minds only, perhaps in actuallity). What I do know is that as quality dots are inputted and my 'proccessor merges and purges the now bit of data, the correlation coefficients are automatically adjusted accordingly. Sort of like the odds board at the race track.
I don't connect the dots. I just input loads of data and my proccessor does it in spite of myself.
The correlation coefficient for 911 and LIHOP was fairly high on 9/1/01. It had continued to climb for the last 22 months. This post by alfredo affirms the strength of my high coefficient.
It's not tinfoil. It is neural proccessing. Plain and simple.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:36 AM
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11. Let It Happen On Purpose
eom
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Stanchetalarooni Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 07:56 AM
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12. Forgive me Love Bug
I failed to note that my tongue was sticking to the inside of my left cheek as I was typing my post.
Thanks just the same for the others out there. The ones whose imagination does not allow for the brutal onslaught of unfiltered perceptions of reality.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:01 PM
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7. This ties in to Newsweek's Isikoff and Hosenball buried story
They reported the same thing. I think that lends credibility - see this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=5861&mesg_id=5861&page=
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 01:48 AM
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9. Kick!




:dem:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-03 12:52 PM
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13. Papy Bush was head of the CIA he
he dictated the fornmat for the CIA's involvement if having 400 journalists writing for them........ so much for the leftist dominated media
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