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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:19 PM
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Madeleine Albright says Bush's policies dividing U.S. from Arab moderates
Nando Media and AP


Former Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright says President Bush's foreign policy has driven away moderate Arab leaders and created the potential for a dangerous rift with European allies.

Albright, writing in the current issue of Foreign Affairs quarterly, criticized Bush as using "the shock of force" rather than relying on alliances in ways that fundamentally depart from more than a half-century of U.S. foreign policy.

Albright, a Democrat who headed the State Department in the Clinton administration, said Bush was rejecting the advice even of his father, former President George H.W. Bush, that the United States should not go it alone in the fight against terrorism "or in anything else, for that matter."

She quoted the current president as declaring before going to war with Iraq that "at some point we may be the only ones left. That's okay with me. We are America." ---

Banish bush From Texas Too
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:31 PM
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1. Well Little Miss 500,000 Dead Children is Changing Her Tune
wonder what brought her around?
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:34 PM
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2. Quote from within the link ...



<snip>
She quoted the current president as declaring before going to war with Iraq that "at some point we may be the only ones left. That's okay with me. We are America."
<snip>


People CAN change .. :shrug:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 06:19 AM
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6. Can I have a link
Or background info as to the evidence supporting the specific number of 500,000 dead children. Thanks.
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tlb Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 06:41 AM
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7. I never bought the 500,000 figure.
but in an interview on 60 Minutes, Leslie Stahl raised that figure with Albright who blithely said that price was worth it. Instead of denying the accusation or demanding verification, she in effect demurred.

True or not, this boob who was our top diplomat gave the charge all the credibility needed for it to be thrown in our face for a century.

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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:36 PM
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3. Let's see...we're at war with Islamic fundamentalists
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 08:37 PM by khephra
And our country is under the control of Christian fundamentalists....

Gee, I don't understand why moderate believers of either faith aren't just falling into line! What's their problem?!?

:crazy:
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tlb Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:09 AM
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4. Albright always talks out of both sides of her mouth.
"The ouster of Saddam Hussein in Iraq has made the world a better place, Albright wrote".

In other words Bush was right in what he did. She just thinks he should have smiled more broadly for France's benefit.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:28 AM
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5. Fuck Albright (er, not literally, of course)
She's a traitor as much as Chimpy is. And as was mentioned above, she didn't care about the 500k kids she helped kill through sanctions.

I'd like for her to see what those kind of sanctions are like. Ship her to Iraq, let some kids there take her place here. Let her see first-hand the people she helped starve.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 11:17 AM
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8. most of the dead children I saw didn't look like they were starving
I don't trust that 500,000 figure. Why does everyone here?

Why can't everyone think "hmm, maybe that figure is the same kind of propaganda bullshit that our country puts out, only put out by another country?"

A little critical thinking isn't a bad thing folks.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 01:14 PM
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11. Maybe you're right, magg...
Perhaps it was 250,000 children who died at the hands of monsters like Albright.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 01:21 PM
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12. Many were malnourished & sickly
because of sanctions on crucial medical supplies and basic suppliments. Fat doesn't always indicate physical health.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 11:23 AM
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9. here's the problem with this quote:
She quoted the current president as declaring before going to war with Iraq that "at some point we may be the only ones left. That's okay with me. We are America."

bush buys his own propaganda. that's why he's the perfect puppet for the neocons. he believes the "noble lies" they write for him to stammer through.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 11:27 AM
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10. Not really LBN, but since it is here...
From a thread in GD:

Albright on Today w/Matt Lauer: If Gore was in the White House


He would have ousted the Taleban in alliance with Nato and the UN, and FINISHED the job of rebuilding the country, making the world a safer place. Says Karzai is nothing more than the Mayor of Kabul.

Said Bush took international support for a global war on terror, and turned it into US policy of preemptive invasion (losing support of the world).

Said it is time for US to admit it can't do Iraq alone, that US was wrong, and seek UN help both militarily and in rebuilding.

All in all, she was VERY critical of this misadministration and it's policies, and Lauer was VERY good in steering her toward saying these things.

(The above is paraphrased from the show 1 hour ago.)



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=208480
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mecca Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 01:22 PM
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13. Like the rest of you, I do not think highly of Albright
But I think that her point is a very good one.
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