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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 07:51 AM
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Did Philippines gvmt bomb its own people with CIA help?
WHY AREN'T WE SHOCKED?
PARANOIA IN THE PHILIPPINES: Did the Philippine government bomb its own people to attract U.S. military might? Was the CIA involved? And why was there so little media coverage?

By NAOMI KLEIN
The Globe and Mail
August 20, 2003

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030820/COKLEIN20/TPColumnists/

(I posted a slightly different version of the headline cos the real one is so vague)

Here's a couple of interesting paragraphs from the article:

Besides, the soldiers were not the first to accuse the Philippine government of bombing its own people. Days before the mutiny, a coalition of church groups, lawyers and NGOs launched a "fact-finding mission" to investigate persistent rumours that the state was involved in the Davao explosions. It is also investigating the possible involvement of U.S. intelligence agencies.

These suspicions stem from a bizarre incident on May 16, 2002, in Davao. Michael Meiring, a U.S. citizen, allegedly detonated explosives in his hotel room, injuring himself badly. While recovering in the hospital, Mr. Meiring was whisked away by two men, who witnesses say identified themselves as FBI agents, and flown to the United States. Local officials have demanded that Mr. Meiring return to face charges, to little effect. BusinessWorld, a leading Philippine newspaper, has published articles openly accusing Mr. Meiring of being a CIA agent involved in covert operations "to justify the stationing of American troops and bases in Mindanao."
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:01 AM
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1. It wouldn't be the first country to do it.

Check out the history of Hamas sometime.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:02 AM
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2. no shock here!
I wonder where Mr. Meiring has been since the 2002 incident?
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:26 AM
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5. I'm shocked to see a pResident, arroyo, who worships the pope, to do
Edited on Thu Aug-21-03 09:16 AM by dArKeR
such an murderous mortal sin act! But then, she lets customers rent child prostitutes next to her office so I've changed my mind, I'm not shocked!

From Estrada and 2 Mil. to Arroyo to 80 Mil.

I think we should do our best to email this story to every media email address you have!

PS. Thanks I'd missed this story in TGM!

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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:09 AM
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3. commentary
I'd like to point out that "sparkles" - a gvmt faking an event such as a terrorist bombing and blaming in on another group, has become so common lately that it's hard to keep track of them all. The Russian gvmt did a really blatant one in 1999 that's openly talked about in the US press, for instance. Yet, despite all this, there are lots of stubborn people at DU who refuse to even consider the possibility that some faction of the US gvmt was involved in 9/11, even though the evidence to that effect constantly grows.

Speaking of the Philippines, a CNN article I read about the military uprising there a few weeks ago, pointed out that President Marcos turned his elected presidency into a dictatorship in the early 1970s by staging a series of terror attacks on his own people, and used that as an excuse to declare martial law and suspend elections.

Yet people think the US is somehow special, and that such a thing has never happened here, and could never happen here. Wake up already! It's happening, and 9/11 was part of it.

In fact, sparkles may already be an open, official part of US policy. A few articles have reported this story, but most people don't seem to know or care (from my 9/11 Timeline):

September 26, 2002 (B): A leaked August 16, 2002 report from Defense Secretary Rumsfeld's influential Defense Science Board 2002 is exposed. (UPI, 9/26/02) The board "recommends creation of a super-Intelligence Support Activity, an organization it dubs the Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group, (P2OG), to bring together CIA and military covert action, information warfare, intelligence, and cover and deception. Among other things, this body would launch secret operations aimed at 'stimulating reactions' among terrorists and states possessing weapons of mass destruction -- that is, for instance, prodding terrorist cells into action and exposing themselves to 'quick-response' attacks by US forces. Such tactics would hold 'states/sub-state actors accountable' and 'signal to harboring states that their sovereignty will be at risk.'" (Los Angeles Times, 10/27/02, Asia Times, 11/5/02) An editorial in the Moscow Times comments: "In other words - and let's say this plainly, clearly and soberly, so that no one can mistake the intention of Rumsfeld's plan - the United States government is planning to use 'cover and deception' and secret military operations to provoke murderous terrorist attacks on innocent people." It is further suggested terrorists could be instigated in countries the US wants to gain control over. (Moscow Times, 11/1/02)
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:24 AM
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4. Northwoods, anybody?
And of course there's the precedent of Operation Northwoods, which proposed staging terrorist incidents against Americans to manufacture public outrage at the patsy - Cuba - in order to justify an invasion. No doubt many would dismiss it as an absurd, tinfoil fantasy if it wasn't available to read in the National Security Archives, though it took 40 years to be declassified.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 02:49 PM
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9. Operation Northwoods
Everybody should know about Northwoods. I mean, the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggested in 1961 that a passenger airliner could be crashed by remote control!

Here's a link for those who don't know about it, even though many of the more interesting details aren't mentioned:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html

I'm also fascinated by the parallels between Ferdinand Marcos and W. Bush. Someone really needs to study how Marcos turned a very solid, long established democracy into a dictatorship. I think it's a more apt comparison than the Hitler comparisons that are so common.
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:28 AM
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6. Clearly labeled opinion piece...not LBN.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:38 AM
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7. Lots of people would rather not see this story reported

Why worry, though. Most Americans still can't find Iraq on a map, think PNAC is fiction, and Bush was chosen by God to bring the Rapture.
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 08:41 AM
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8. It has nothing to do with the story...it is about the integrity of LBN
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