Alice Cooper - "Treason Against Rock N' Roll"

[Nambe]

The following report is courtesy of www.canoe.ca

In the eyes of Alice Cooper, all the rock stars campaigning for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry are guilty of one thing: treason. The shock-rock legend, a staunch Republican who attends NBA games in Phoenix with Arizona Senator John McCain, was disgusted when he learned of plans by BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, JOHN MELLENCAMP, R.E.M. and other bands to hold a series of concerts aimed at unseating U.S. President George W. Bush.

"To me, that's treason. I call it treason against rock 'n' roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics," says the 56-year-old Cooper, who began a 15-city Canadian tour on August 20 in Thunder Bay, Ont.

"When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could. So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me sick.

"If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."

[Screaming Lord Byron]

1. ROFL!

What an absolute fuckwit.

[Fenris]

6. Poor Vincent Furnier...

Reduced to doing commercials for an office supply store and VH1 retro shows. That seems an appropriate end to a pathetic career.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

8. How is this guy from Detroit?

What a slur on a great music city. Couldn't he have had the decency to be born somewhere more in line with his beliefs?

[Fenris]

14. The same goes for Kid Rock.

Detroit is a dichotomy - really terrific music coupled with some of the worst shit ever produced.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

28. I was convinced for months Kid Rock was being ironic.

[Fenris]

34. No. He really is like that. And that's disturbing.

He hangs out with Bob Seger (another low for Detroit, IMHO) and Hank Williams Junior! Only the best!

[flamingyouth]

58. Bob Seger did some decent stuff in the '60s too

His song "2+2=?" from '68 is great. It was downhill, way downhill, after that.

[Fenris]

67. "LIKE A ROCK!"

:D

[tuvor]

136. Exactly HOW does a rock "burn from the gate" anyway?

[RandomKoolzip]

74. "2+2=?" is one of the greatest anti-war songs of all time....

And Seger's early work was indeed amazing. I used to put stuff off of "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" on mix tapes and play them at work and it never failed to get people to ask "WHO IS THIS?!?" in total awe. And then I'd tell them it was Bob Seger and they wouldn't believe me.

[flamingyouth]

78. LOL - me too!

I played "2+2=?" for a friend in college and he flat-out refused to accept it was Bob Seger! This was pre-internet, so he actually called the Seattle Public Library info line to confirm that, yes, Bob Seger did that song! :7

[Tommy_Douglas]

178. I believe that 2 + 2 = ? Is actually a cover.

A cover of a song of the same name done by the Godz.

[Surf Cowboy]

106. Yeah, don't forget Ted

"if it has two tits a hole and a heartbeat, I'll fuck it, and if it doesn't, I'll hunt it" Nugent.

Another rocket-scientist rock and roller from Dee-troit.

[fujiyama]

175. Ah

but Kidd Rock isn't from Detroit. He's from one of the surburbs!

[flamingyouth]

16. He's actually not really from Detroit

He's from Arizona, but the Alice Cooper group moved there to sort of cash in on the MC5/Stooges/SRC scene at the time.

On edit - I stand corrected - he was actually born in Detroit but moved to Arizona when he was very young. I'm having deja vu here, I know that I stated this once before and had to correct myself.

[Fenris]

26. He was under the creative direction of Zappa at one point.

Although I'd imagine by the time he started singing "I Wanna Be Your Frankenstein" or "Clones (We're All)" ol' Frank had moved far, far away.

[flamingyouth]

31. "Pretties for You" is a great record

Very trippy, I like it.

[Fenris]

36. Yes, but was that Alice Cooper the man, or Alice Cooper the band?

[flamingyouth]

38. Alice Cooper the group

The band "broke up" in '75 (after they were driven out) and then Alice legally changed his name.

The rest of the band - the decent part of the act - went on for a time as the Billion Dollar Babies.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

29. Phew!

[flamingyouth]

35. His mid-'60s band the Spiders were pretty cool

They put out a couple of singles, IIRC. They were from Tuscon.

[arlib]

110. And the Nazz stuff too...

...not to be confused with the Nazz with Todd Rundgren.

[GreenArrow]

117. yes, the only stuff of his that

is decent, IMO. The latter day Alice Cooper schtick is little more than a bloodless ripoff of the Stooges and New York Dolls.

[HuckleB]

120. Yes, he grew up in Arizona, which explains a lot.

:)

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

104. A,men to that, Brother!

I am a native of the Motor City, born at Mount Carmel Hospital, lived on the west side most of my life.........

[Screaming Lord Byron]

7. He's become quite the fundie in recent years.

Another useless celebrity who gave up drugs for fundamentalism.

[Fenris]

12. Really?

For a man who named himself (and his band) after a seventeenth century witch he contacted through a Ouija board, that's an odd end to come to.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

37. His dad was a minister.

I think he picked religion up again after detox. I saw an interview with him on Much More Music, and he was going on about how Alice was a parable for how the Devil acts on your soul. I was saddened. Fair enough you suck now, but do you have to bring your half-decent past into it?

[Fenris]

51. See kids? Christianity makes rock lame.

"You're not making Christianity cooler, you're making music worse!" - Hank Hill

[flamingyouth]

59. ROFL - how did I know you'd bring that up?

;)

[fujiyama]

176. A great Hank Hill quote!

[flamingyouth]

60. Same thing with Gerry Roslie from the Sonics

He "found the lord" and now will have nothing to do with his "demonic" past. :eyes:

[rocktivity]

76. Shouldn't that be "gave up one addiction

for another?"

:headbang:
rocknation

[Screaming Lord Byron]

86. That's what I was getting at. Lose drugs find religion, it's all the same

drug.

[jdj]

186. I have to say this, and I am sorry if anyone finds it offensive, but

it makes me so mad these pricks that get their share of drink, drugs, and pussy, and then when they hit 40 or 50 get converted and go around telling everyone else they can't have any.

That goes for Dr. Laura, too...all of them.

They make me sick.

In their cases, I believe it's hormonal, it's physiological hormone flunctuation. Too bad for them, but it should be ILLEGAL for people to go around forcing their hormone shifts down other people's throats.

[medeak]

125. switched to golf

played 36 holes first day out of rehab...hasn't missed a day in Scottsdale to date.

He's not in touch with the real world.

[AngryAmish]

173. Nothing wrong with golf

[tuvor]

134. Ocean Rain!...Great album!

[stevedeshazer]

2. Ted Nugent/Alice Cooper 2008

Next Republican ticket.

[Khephra]

48. It's happened before...REALLY...and in Vegas of all places

As the summer wound down to a grinding halt, two mega-acts from the 1970's & 1980's were on tour together. Alice Cooper and Ted Nugent rolled into Las Vegas on August 2, 2003.

http://www.ause.org/ezine/0002/006/pages/nugent-cooper.php

See lower in the thread too.

[stevedeshazer]

109. WHO says "you can't make this stuff up?"

:)

[ClassWarrior]

3. Little Alice should tell that to John Lennon, a real rock 'n' roller.

Big talk for a novelty act.

[On the Road]

64. Too Bad Grace Slick Didn't Realize That

"But Mexico is under the thumb
Of a man we call Richard
And he`s come to call himself king
But he`s a small-headed man
And he doesn`t know a thing
About how to deal for you.."

[IconoclastIlene]

142. and the Fugs, the MC5, Earth Opera, Dylan but

to name a few iconoclasts that have littered the highway for years and years....Cooper, you are alive but brain dead....you drank as much as your hero Bush did and he wasn't even a damn rock star....FU.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

4. alice expects all rockers to be as uniformed as him?

nice. there went any respect i had for alice cooper, go play some golf dude.

[Neshanic]

5. Rock should never be in politics. He was asleep in the 60's .

[zbdent]

27. Somebody should get the pic of him rolling around the stage in

a straightjacket with a bottle of Jack Daniels (during the Asylum ? tour) and photoshop W's head on it.

[auburngrad82]

63. He's never heard "What's Going On" by Marvin Gaye

Or "Street Fighting Man" by the Stones
or "Get Up/Stand Up" by Bob Marley
or...

[klook]

72. Or "Trouble Comin' Every Day"

by Frank Zappa.

[jdj]

184. It all came out of the blues, and songs like "Strange Fruit".

Just another white boy that doesn't know know the history of music. Thinks we went straight from Beethoven to useless washed up old punks like him, not stopping at slavery and all that cultural appropriation.

[Tempest]

9. Umm... Now let me get this straight

Cooper states that "Rock should never be in bed with politics" while he attends basketball games with John McCain?

Alice needs to be introduced to his friend Mr. Pot.

[Cocoa]

10. some rock encourages people to be stupid

that's the kind the corporate types like.

Then there's Springsteen, et al.

[Fleshdancer]

11. Um, using his own logic....

If rock should never be in bed with politics, then shouldn't he shut the hell up? Just curious. Complaining about other singers who discuss politics while calling them politically charged names like "traitor" is hypocritical and childish.

[tuvor]

137. Don't confuse Alice with the facts!

[Khephra]

13. "So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me

sick."

JUST WHAT IN THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING, YOU STUPID DICKWEED?

[Khephra]

15. Alice has been going downhill since he lost the snake

I guess we know where the talent in the act really came from.

[Crunchy Frog]

47. I guess we know where

the brains of the operation were.

[RandomKoolzip]

17. Alice Cooper lost any semblance of relevence or importance

in 1975, when he "went Vegas" with his "Welcome to my Nightmare" all-pablum tour. Before that, I might have been dismayed at his words.

But he's a joke now.

Hey Vincent Furnier: go back and re-listen to "Billion Dollar Babies:" the lyric kinda fits the Bush administration to a tee, doesn't it?

Oh, wait, I forgot: the only "tee" you'd know about is the one on that long, long fairway....

[flamingyouth]

23. "Billion Dollar Babies" was his last decent album

I don't even like "Muscle of Love." That original group was great, though, and I love those records, but man, he's a washed-up hack of epic proportions now.

[RandomKoolzip]

46. Exactly.

Listen to "Zipper Catches Skin" lately? Neither have I. He drunkenly skulked into hackdom after "Billion Dollar Babies." If the "WTMN" tour wasn't the clincher, that Muppet Show appearence was.


But that original Alice Cooper BAND? Phenomenal. Great stuff.


Oh, Vinnie, KNOW when you're washed up, will ya? If you're so upset about rock stars talking politics, then make the first step and stop talking politics.

PS, and also: rock stars taking career advice from Alice Cooper is like healthy couples taking sex advice from Jack Ryan.

[flamingyouth]

50. Glen Buxton was a totally underrated guitarist

He just had that working-class, stripped-down, no bullshit sound that I love. And Michael Bruce, Neal Smith and Dennis Dunaway were all great too.

The beginning of the end was when they started bringing in session guys on BDB because of Glen's alcohol and drug problem... sad, really. He died a few years ago.

[RandomKoolzip]

57. Yeah, that was really the last great album....

And it's my favorite AC album. I mean, come on: Donovan and Alice dueting? You can't beat that with a stick.

The band was great, too. That's waht people don't realize today; originally, "Alice Cooper" was the name of the band.

[flamingyouth]

62. It's not only a great album, it had amazing packaging

I love Love it to Death, Killer and School's Out too, but BDB is such a slice of the times.

This just gets more ironic when you think of the song "Elected."

What a buffoon this guy is. :(

[LTR]

18. Ummm... "Washington Journal"?

Never heard of it.

This coming from a so-called "Shock Rocker" whose career went into the toilet when he started golfing with Gerald Ford in the 70's.

[coloradodem2005]

19. Of course it makes him sick when rockers talk politics.

Because they will always be Democrat. Hey Alice, do the words "Freedom of Speech" mean anything to you? Oh wait, right-wingers hate the bill of rights.


I would take Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne over him any day.

[ContinentalOp]

66. But Ozzy is a republican too! - nt

[coloradodem2005]

91. No he's not.

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=CA&last=Osbourne&first=John


Furthermore, on Ozzfest he did "War Pigs" while showing pictures of Bush behind him. I am not sure whether that was with Black Sabbath or not but he did that. He even compared Bush to Hitler in the montage.

[ContinentalOp]

94. Wow, I had no idea!

I had seen footage of him at a Bush fundraiser. Bush mentioned him and Ozzy stood up and went "Yeah!" or something like that. Anyway, it's nice to know he's not though it really doesn't matter to me either way. I still love Sabbath regardless of Ozzy's politics.

[arlib]

111. Not sure...

...but I think it was a Washington Press Club dinner or something like that.

[President Jesus]

163. You're correct...it was no Bush fundraiser

[Cha]

191. No he's not!

And to hear Sharon Osbourne on her talk show...she isn't either. I can't believe Ozzy would be one and she's not..

I don't know where that rumor started.

[spanone]

20. If Alice Cooper talks into a microphone about politics,does anyone listen?

Who gives a sh*t?

[ChrisK]

21. Maybe some "rock stars" did more with there lives...

then get burned out on drugs and liquor by getting involved in whats happening in there country.

Mr. Cooper seems to be again running from mom and dad when it comes to seeing whats happening in his country like he did as a child...Thats very sad..for him and any American to try and ignore whats going on right now.

[peacetalksforall]

22. Alice Cooper and John McCain - not playing politics.

Yeah, if 'she' assumes we're stupid, we must be stupid...

[The Stranger]

24. This man is an imbecile.

[prolesunited]

25. Treason?

:wtf:

Since when is exercising your Constitutional rights treason! It's not the terrorists who hate us for our freedoms, it's these fascists like him.

And obviously HE is a moran, but there are many rock stars who are quite informed and trying to play a role. And music has long played been an integral part of political movements.

[Cha]

192. Yeah! That's the part that fumes me. "Treason"!!

Isn't it just like a brainwashed puke to brand someone who has a different opinion, with "Treason"?

[Journeyman]

30. I remember in '74 when Cooper came out in support of Nixon. . .

so I guess his "rock should never be in bed with politics" extends only to one side of the aisle.

Let's take a peek at some "socially responsible" lyrics from the original gory glam rocker (emphasis added):

Elected

I'm your top prime cut of meat, I'm your choice,
I wanna be elected,
I'm your yankee doodle dandy in a gold Rolls Royce,
I wanna be elected,
Kids want a saviour, don't need a fake,
I wanna be elected,
We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make,
I wanna be elected, elected, elected.

I never lied to you, I've always been cool,
I wanna be elected,
I gotta get the vote, and I told you 'bout school,
I wanna be elected, elected, elected,
Hallelujah, I wanna be selected,
Everyone in the United States of America.

We're gonna win this one, take the country by storm,
We're gonna be elected,
You and me together, young and strong,
We're gonna be elected, elected, elected,
Respected, selected, call collected,
I wanna be elected, elected.

And if I am elected
I promise the formation of a new party
A third party, the Wild Party!
I know we have problems,
We got problems right here in Central City,
We have problems on the North, South, East and West,
New York City, Saint Louis, Philadelphia, Los Angeles,
Detroit, Chicago,
Everybody has problems,
And personally, I don't care.


Ah, nothing like "compassionate conservatism" to get a stadium rockin'!

[flamingyouth]

68. That is such a great song

And I was just thinking of it myself - with great irony, I might add. ;)

[jus_the_facts]

122. extremely ironical to me...posted it just yesterday in the lounge....

....can't believe I'm hearin' this shite today....lost respect for him in a BIG way now...damn! :wow:

[RhodaGrits]

32. Vote Republican, It's Easier than Thinking. n/t

[swag]

33. I guess his new Target commercial is total Rock and Roll?

What a fraud.

[Cha]

193. Does that mean "Target" is a repuke corporation?

I thought with their "education" donations that they were different.

I go to them instead of wallmart.

If this creep does commercials for them..I feel like withdrawing my support. Not that that would hurt them.

[eyesroll]

39. Isn't he kinda, um, politicizing rock by throwing the T-bomb

just asking.

[mac56]

40. Somebody's fifteen minutes are WAAAAY long gone.

Pathetic, transparent headline-grabbing.

[joefree1]

41. Hee hee, Alice Cooper rocks for Bush? Did we win already?

Thanks for the laugh.


Download the free poster/sign here:
http://ediablo.com/eDiabloGallery.html

[Crunchy Frog]

42. Hey Alice, you idiotic asshole,

In case you hadn't noticed, rock stars have been talking politics for the last 40 years. Are you so brain dead from substance abuse that you havn't even noticed that?

And just because you're a moron, that doesn't mean that all rock stars are.

[Khephra]

70. Shit, the first rock song (whatever it was) was political

all the early songs (as an undertext) encouraged sexuality and equality of races. What's more political than that? :evilgrin:

[Crunchy Frog]

98. Rock is not apolitical in nature.

It is, by nature, anti-authoritarian. Since the Republicans have become an authoritarian, neo-fascist party, a Republican rock star is, by nature, an abomination against rock and traitorous to its principles.:evilgrin:

[OilemFirchen]

43. Uhm...

"When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could."

Were they singing this, Vinnie?

Oh, a storm is threat'ning
My very life today
If I don't get some shelter
Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away

War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away

Ooh, see the fire is sweepin'
Our very street today
Burns like a red coal carpet
Mad bull lost its way

War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away

Rape, murder!
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away

Rape, murder!
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away

Rape, murder!
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away

The floods is threat'ning
My very life today
Gimme, gimme shelter
Or I'm gonna fade away

War, children, it's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
I tell you love, sister, it's just a kiss away
It's just a kiss away
It's just a kiss away
It's just a kiss away
It's just a kiss away
Kiss away, kiss away

Or, perhaps, this?

Ev'rywhere I hear the sound of marching, charging feet, boy
'Cause summer's here and the time is right for fighting in the street, boy
Well then what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band
'Cause in sleepy London town
There's just no place for a street fighting man
No!

Hey! Think the time is right for a palace revolution
'Cauce where I live the game to play is compromise solution
Well then what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band
'Cause in sleepy London town
There's no place for a street fighting man
No!
Get down

Hey! Said my name is called disturbance
I'll shout and scream, I'll kill the king, I'll rail at all his servants
Well, what can a poor boy do
Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band
'Cause in sleepy London town
There's no place for a street fighting man
No
Get down

[OilemFirchen]

61. BTW

When the Stones first hit the U.S., Vinnie was 16. As a "kid", he was prolly listening to Perry Como.

[mac56]

69. Pat Boone.

Preacher's kid, dont'cha know.

[roguevalley]

156. repugs and other yokels burned rock records when I was a kid. Politics?

Good grief. Alice don't live here (in reality) anymore.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

44. Supreme Irony - Weren't his last three records largely political?

Might be difficult to find someone who bought them, but I think they were.

[Khephra]

45. Some good Alice quotes

"There's nothing on stage I can't live with as a Christian, nothing I can't look at and digest and say, 'That's fine.' There never really was. There's no nudity, no bad language, nothing I couldn't have defended. Certainly we don't come anywhere close to being a rap act."

snip.........

The new CD includes songs such as "Novocain," "Bye Bye Baby," "What Do You Want From Me?"

Cooper describes them as "pretty humorous. I don't get political at all. If you want politics, you have Bono (from U2), Moby. I just think politics is the anti-rock. If you write about politics, it's almost treason. Rock 'n' roll should be pure of politics, it shouldn't have anything to do with what your parents care about.

http://web.naplesnews.com/03/10/showcase/d984661a.htm

[RobertSeattle]

49. Alice - go play another round of golf and shut up

[Khephra]

52. Cooper and Nugent WERE together once--in Vegas of all places!

As the summer wound down to a grinding halt, two mega-acts from the 1970's & 1980's were on tour together. Alice Cooper and Ted Nugent rolled into Las Vegas on August 2, 2003. Both men have been pushing buttons on a level of mass proportions for nearly three decades. The two have tattooed their mark on the ass of Rock n' Roll History, Cooper with ground breaking theatrics and Nugent with his dedication to pleasing groupies and hunting wild animals. Don't get me wrong, they both have some great songs, but it is their personas that are remembered above all. Alice Cooper was shocking audience and scaring parents while Marilyn Manson and Gwar were still in diapers. And Ted Nugent has been pissing off people everywhere long before he got his own reality special on VH1.

While on-stage Nugent made no attempt to censor himself, spicing up his music by insulting the crowd, spouting racial slurs, and bashing the Dixie Chicks. He also proceeded to shoot an arrow through an epitaph of Saddam Hussien at the end of 'KISS MY ASS' (the song he scoldingly dedicated to the Dixie Chicks).

The 'Motorcity Madman' decorated the stage with American flags, camouflage, and fake machine guns. At one point, he lifted up the fake gun and said, "Let's hear it for the American Dream - THIS is my American Dream." That statement seemed to get the response Nugent was looking for, as it showed on his face and in his cocky demeanor. Ted Nugent is just that: Cocky - and he has the big mouth to match. He spoke of how great this country is, and how "You just have to stand up for what you believe in" but then he contradicted himself by saying "There is only one dream, and that is the American Dream." He also bashed the Dixie Chicks and called them whores for standing up for what they believe in, they just happen to believe something different than Nugent.

Musically speaking, he can still bust out the sweet licks on 'STRANGLEHOLD' and 'CAT SCRATCH FEVER,' but most of that is diluted by his big mouth. He has some valid points about a natural hunt as opposed to farmed meat, but most of his ideas are over the top...at least in my own opinion.

Alice Cooper's performance is a quite different experience than that of Ted Nugent. He is more of 'A Performer' who plays for the audience, leaving politics and his beliefs out of the show. He didn't seem to talk to the crowd much at all - he let the music and theatrics do the talking for him. His performance has been toned down over the years, he no longer beheads himself on-stage or anything too elaborate. The most complex stunt he pulled was escaping from a straight jacket while an abused nurse (played by his real life daughter) danced around. Cooper still gets into his performance, and so do his fans. The place went nuts every time he strutted around the stage swinging a baton in a top hat.

http://www.ause.org/ezine/0002/006/pages/nugent-cooper.php

Funny how Cooper doesn't like musicians talking about politics...as long as they're not Nugent, I guess. Nugent is ok in his book or I guess he wouldn't be sharing a stage with him, huh?

[Crunchy Frog]

101. What a brave warrior:

The 'Motorcity Madman' decorated the stage with American flags, camouflage, and fake machine guns. At one point, he lifted up the fake gun and said, "Let's hear it for the American Dream - THIS is my American Dream."

This from a "man" who pooped his pants in order to avoid serving in Vietnam.

[grytpype]

53. Well, I just deleted all my Alice Cooper mp3s...

... I don't want Repug crap on my hard drive!

[fudge stripe cookays]

132. I'm deleting him from my Halloween CD.

Bastard.

I had 2 cuts on there, but no way I'm keeping em now. What an asshole.

FSC

[tuvor]

139. Don't do that!

A person doesn't toss out their Wagner CDs because the guy was an anti-semite.

Picasso was an asshole (despite what Jonathan Richman says) of the highest order when it came to women, but that doesn't negate the power of Guernica or a thousand other of his works.

This could end up being a very long list if I wanted it to be. My point is, separate the artist you hate from the art that you like. Even if it's only pop music.

[fudge stripe cookays]

165. There's a difference.

Wagner isn't still making royalties from the music we purchase. His family may get some sort of trust from it, but chances are, his anti-Semitism died with him.

Alice Cooper isn't getting one more penny from me. If it was just politics I could separate it.

Nugent, Alice, Toby Keith and others are pushing fascism down our throats and telling us to like it, and that we're traitors if we don't.

Fuck that, and fuck them.

[Cha]

194. Yay!

[Webster Green]

54. I'm not surprised he is a repuke cuz he sucks.....

I remember walking out of his show in the 60's when he did a number featuring dead babies (bloody baby dolls onstage). He would probably love the slaughter going on in Iraq. I thought his act sucked big time. Only reason I was there was to see the opening act (Flo and Eddie, who were great!)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

55. RIght, Alice, Like when you sang "18" during the height of the VietNam War

A song about being old enough to be drafted but still being a kid?

[samsingh]

56. if rock is not political, why is cooper commenting

be true to yourself Alice - but then you're a repug and a hypocrite - which is redundant anyway.

[Khephra]

65. To me, accusing anyone of "treason" is horribly wrong

Treason applies to selling nuclear secrets or selling biochemical warfare agents....

Gee, I don't think any rock stars have done that. I wonder who have?

Ummmm...at least two Republican administrations, maybe?

[LeftHander]

71. Nuge, Brooks and Dunn, Brittany...

And now Alice Cooper...

Fuck him.

Politics have always been part of Rock and Roll....

what a dumbass....it is about rebellion...teen and otherwise...

Let me guess....his whole effing career wouldn't of happened if it wasn't for popular social upheavals and rebellion of the 60's....sheesh
he'd be playing banjo in the Chuck Wagon Gang from crissake...

What a loser....I never like his one hit career anyway...

[nolabels]

87. Slap that 78 on, I got a new set of needles for the phono

http://www.countryopry.com/ccrecords/welcome.html

[salvorhardin]

73. One of the almost local classic rock stations

in my area uses his radio show at night. He is one of the worst djs ever. Endlessly commenting on songs that suck -- which seems to be almost everything that isn't Alice Cooper -- interspersed with him reminiscing about his days of booze and drugs. What a hypocrite. Claims to play stuff you won't hear anywhere else, yet it's the same old tired classic rock format everyone uses. This coming from a person who likes classic rock, but if I hear Steve Miller one more time I'm going to retch.

[rocktivity]

75. Having your fans ducking bullets for a living is bad for business, Alice.

Nor can they buy your records or concert tickets if they don't have any money.

And I think you'd be the last person in the world who would be against freedom of speech and expression.

:headbang:
rocknation

[LynneSin]

77. I'm going to Break my "Welcome to my Nightmare" Cd

Anyhow, Marilyn Manson is doing it much better now these days. Cooper is over the hill

[wicket]

82. Cooper definitely is over the hill

Ever since that "Hey Stoopid" BS :puke:

[SOS]

79. This is what happens

when you spend years golfing with Barry Goldwater.

[progressivebydesign]

80. He's a rich, middle-aged golfer living in a resort town..

.. he's no different than any other rightwinger there.. except he wears more makeup.

[medeak]

126. seen him a lot

He fits in real well at country club (Camelback)never misses a day of golf...and dresses way republican (has a good game tho)

Friend runs his restuarant. He's def surrounded by right wingers.

[Old and In the Way]

81. Cooper and KISS

Never liked their acts.......it was pure schlock entertainment.

[nolabels]

83. If you remember who you were when you heard it

Then you won't have to remember it after it's over. (and besides not all people go through life gracefully, it would be too boring)



It's no 'London Calling,' but the Clash is the Clash., January 12, 2003

Reviewer:"bloodmeridian" (Austin) - See all my reviews
Punk purists will now and forever stick their noses up at 'Combat Rock' if for no other reason than 'Rock the Casbah' and 'Should I Stay or Should I Go?' (which, in their defense, are fun to listen to and fun to play). But they're missing out
(snip)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000025P4/103-6810659-3392643?v=glance#product-detail

Mostly punk sucked even more than disco, but still some good tunes will never be overshadowed. Just like money changes everything (but only in the future).

[stevedeshazer]

113. I'm lost here

What's the connection with your review of the Clash and the subject at hand?

Just trying to understand.

[nolabels]

121. I like to remember people for their music, not the politics

The good music often lives on beyond the person who made it happen


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002UAU/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/103-6810659-3392643?v=glance&s=music

[stevedeshazer]

138. Got it

Thanks

[tuvor]

140. Joe Strummer, RIP

The Combat Rock stop in Edmonton was one of the best shows I'd ever seen. One of the loudest and most overtly political, too.

Another good one was Skinny Puppy on their Vivisect Tour. Yup, more politics!

[Stuckinthebush]

84. Some things you shouldn't say out loud...

"When I was a kid and my parents started talking about politics, I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones as loud as I could. So when I see all these rock stars up there talking politics, it makes me sick."

"If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."



So....Mr. Cooper....you think that it is a good idea for Rock Stars to ignore the socio/political world in which they live and simply put their hands over their ears and scream "NANANANANA - I'M NOT LISTENING!" whenever subjects that effect their listeners are brought up?

Brilliant.

Let's see here....

Rock Stars with critical thinking skills = >100
Rock Stars that have no critical thinking skills = 2

[Cha]

195. I'd like to know what the Real Rock Stars

think of little alice cooper accusing them of "Treason"??

[gasperc]

85. who wants to bet he parents were talking about Nixon

and his parents were pissed that the Dems were dissing him so bad. just a theory

Now he's a staunch republican??

[ElectroPrincess]

90. Whoa!

Alice Cooper was my Idol as a pre-teen. The second album I purchased with my lawn mowing money was "Love it to death." No, I was NO groupie although I attended two concerts. I got over it ... not too weird, just a kid's crush.

I often reflect fondly on those years. Well, no more of that mainstream a**hole Alice Cooper. Go over and join the other *amoral* sell outs. (Gene Simmons, Metallica).

Damn what a loser!

What else can an ex-fan say.

Seriously bummed that I spent a penny on this jerk. :P

I should have know nothing is what it seems after I noted that a Led Zepplin track plays in the background within an "old wealthy farts" Cadillac commercials. Is nothing sacred!?! LOL

[schultzee]

88. Cheney to you Alice Cooper republican greed pig.

[jackieforthedems]

89. Never Owned An Alice Cooper Record

And never will. Everyone's entitled to freedom of speech, Alice Cooper -not just you!!!:grr:

[Dickie Flatt]

92. The shock-rock legend, a staunch Republican .. "we're morons" [n/t]

[The Night Owl]

93. Notice that all the Has-beens, hacks, and phonies are for Smirk?

Alice Cooper... Another hack entertainer for Bush.

[Cha]

196. bo derek, anyone?

[starroute]

95. Let's remember our rock history

Rock is not rock'n'roll. Rock'n'roll was (except for a few brief moments, mostly right at the beginning) never more than top 40 teenage bubblegum music.

Rock came into being in 1965 as the result of a merger of rock'n'roll with urban folk. It started in a reciprocal movement when Dylan went electric and the Beatles got serious. It continued in 1966 when a whole wave of bands like Buffalo Springfield and Jefferson Airplane crossed over from folkie territory into the new domain of rock.

And rock was always political, even radical. It was about combining a folkie social conscience with rock'n'role energy. That's what made late 60's music great.

[Kierkegaard]

96. Absolutely correct

Vince seems to have conveniently forgetten about the 60's.

[hatrack]

97. Huh - not only still alive, but a Repuke, too!

Who knew? :evilgrin:

[Cha]

197. ROFLMAO

:evilgrin:

[GingerSnaps]

99. Shut up "Old Alice aka Vincent"

Vincent was brought up in a Pentecostal home on the Repugs. values.

Shut the hell up Vincent!

[ElementaryPenguin]

100. Alice is a TERRORIST! Most famous song is about blowing up a school!

Clear channel would never play it - and the GOP would make him a target for what's horrible about our culture! What a stupid f*ck! What next? Marilyn Manson is a staunch conservative??

:puke:

[johnnie]

102. I really loved the old Alice Cooper records

Even a little bit of the early Alice solo records...I guess I can still listen to them, but Alice has lost his way. It's too bad, but he took the dive. Rock and roll and republican are just two things that shouldn't be mixed together. It's the real treason...treason against Rock And Roll.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

103. If thats the case Alice,

then why are you a repub?

[Hobarticus]

105. Do another greatest hits tour and shut up, Alice...

You've become irrelevant.

[GingerSnaps]

107. Alice could change "Schools Out" to "Bush is out"

LOL

[Generator]

118. Yeah....forever

[pacalo]

108. He explained very clearly why he supports Dubya...

"...Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."

Apparently, Bruce does read about what's going on, & he's a U.S. citizen who has the right to express his views.

[Cha]

198. Bruce had an long opinion in the NYT for

crissake! Explaining why he couldn't support the resident.

[bullimiami]

112. alice we used to love you.

no longer.

[Gregorian]

115. Really! This is news to me. :(

Bummer!
I thought he was awesome.
:(

Edit- Beware of musicians who wear lots and lots of makeup.

[nolabels]

143. George needs to know if your really want to hurt him

http://www.pure80spop.co.uk/80look2.htm

Artist: Culture Club Lyrics
Song: Do You Really Want to Hurt Me Lyrics
Give me time
To realize my crime
Let me love and steal
I have danced
Inside your eyes
How can I be real

Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry
Precious kisses, words that burn me
Lovers never ask you why
In my heart the fire's burning
Choose my colour, find a star
Precious people always tell me
That's a step a step too far

Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry
Do you really want to hurt me
Do you really want to make me cry
(snip)
http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/theweddingsinger/doyoureallywanttohurtme.htm

I cannot believe I lived through the era and still get to wear trousers :silly:

[Gregorian]

147. Boy King George, maybe.

Now here's a guy who doesn't wear makeup.


My goal was to photoshop the Nudge bowhunting Boy George, but I'm too damn lazy. That, and the photos of Ted Nudgent are really disturbing. That guy kills EVERYTHING. A true republican.

[nolabels]

151. Ed Nugget on Rock and Roll with the Skull and bones

(cont. snip)
http://www.newcomicreviews.com/albums/ed4/

[Gregorian]

155. Cool

Oh man, that's a lot of great stuff. All kinds of gifs I can plagerize, and goof around with. Not sure what it is. Looks like short screen grabs or something.

Wango Tango.

[Pluvious]

114. Bob Weir of The Dead

Even The Dead are waking up.

In the current issue of Rolling Stone, Bob Weir says they're speaking up about this election, for the first time getting into politics (they're joining the tour as well), that this time it's too important to ignore and stay silent, that "if every Deadhead in the state of Florida had voted in the last Presidential election, it'd be a very different world today."

My Republican friend and Dead fan says "It must have been all that acid."

From his interview:
http://www.gdhour.com/weir.040302.html

Gans: I want to talk a little bit about the bigger picture. What do you think about what's going on in the world these days?

Weir: I think one thing you'll find if you come to a Ratdog show or a Dead show in the next few months is we have voter registration booths out front. I think if people value democracy, they had damn well better get out and exercise their right to vote while their vote still means something. Because it's pretty clear to me that otherwise, corporations are gonna take over our government and that's gonna be that.

Gans: That's a subject that's of great importance to me as well, and in fact I've been putting a message in at the end of every radio show that I produce asking people to participate in democracy and register and pay attention and vote. Is there anything else that you're doing above and beyond having the booths at the shows to promote that idea?

Weir: Not yet. I'll get more hooked in as... actually, I'm planning on getting more hooked into that whole process after I get off this tour, but I'm not endorsing candidates -- at least yet -- and anyway I don't really feel good about doing that onstage. But, at the same time, I don't think there's gonna be much in the way of surprises if our audience gets out and votes. For instance, if every Deadhead in the state of Florida had voted in the last Presidential election, it'd be a very different world today. And so if you don't think you make a difference, that's not right. You will make a difference. Especially if you get your friends to register and vote as well.

_________________
"Black music is always easy to enjoy, yet impossible to imitate."
-Bush, June 29, 2001

[RazzleCat]

116. I'd run to my room and put on the Rolling Stones

Put on the Stones to escape politics, remember street fighting man? Jaggers comments in the press? Not exactly apolitical back in the late 60's early 70's.

[HuckleB]

119. This from the ultimate draft dodger?

Having spent my high school years in the same place (Cortez High, in Phoenix) that Cooper did (many years before), I found myself privy to the repeated stories (by fellow alums of his era) about how he got out of service in Vietnam. The word is that Cooper worked hard to eat poorly, smoke like a fiend, and not exercise at all, among other things in order to fail his physical and stay out of Vietnam. Sure, it's just rumor, but if the SBVFTs can do it, so can I!

I can attest to being witness to Cooper's many forays to watch JV football games on Thursday afternoons, er, I mean Cooper watched the 14 and 15 year old cheerleaders, rarely gazing up to see the action on the field. Now, I'm sorry, but the guy was almost 40. That's bloody creepy.

[daleo]

123. A sort of paradox at work here

1 - Alice Cooper says rock stars are morons.
2 - He also says people shouldn't listen to morons about politics.
3 - Alice Cooper is a rock star (or was).
4 - Therefore Alice Cooper is a moron.
5 - Therefore people shouldn't listen to Alice Cooper about politics.

He seems to invalidate his own advice.

[Cha]

199. Remind you of someone else ..who is yipping

lately?

dob bole!

[trogdor]

124. No one with a single-digit golf handicap...

...should be allowed to comment on rock music. Period.

[medeak]

128. LOL

so true!

[trogdor]

170. See Haley Joel Osment comment on Alice Cooper's golfing prowess.

Somewhere in the middle of this clip. This is the dialup-friendly version.

pnm://www2.kidactors.com/osment/hjo-bdssp01-148x112-56k.rm

[0rganism]

127. Rock has ALWAYS had a political side

Alice Cooper is too old to rock'n'roll, I guess...

[MrSlayer]

129. I've always hated Alice Cooper anyway.

His music sucks, his politics suck and he's a golfer. That's soooo Rock n Roll. :eyes:

[OnceUponATime]

130. A list of traitors

Perhaps we should start a list of all the treacherous rock stars who have foolishly allowed politics to make traitors of themselves and their art.

I'm sure rock could have done without all these people...

Bob Dylan, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Who, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Band, Buffalo Springfield, Donovan, Jimi Hendrix, Crosby/Stills & Nash, Neil Young, Simon & Garfunkle, Marvin Gaye, Joni Mitchell, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Marley, Jimmy Cliff, The Sex Pistols, The Clash, Elvis Costello, The Jam, John Mellencamp, U2, Midnight Oil, X, Coldplay, Radiohead...
the list goes on and on and on... add your favorites...

What an idiot Alice Cooper has proven himself to be. Politics is what made rock important in the first place. Rock is about rebellion against the status quo and a yearning for something better.

Rock need not be overtly political to be great (Led Zeppelin), but a lot of the greatest rock is highly political. Whatever minimal contributions Alice Cooper has made to rock history, he clearly doesn't understand why rock makes history.

[kwolf68]

182. Zeppelin was political I THINK

Robert Plant was on NPR yesterday and was talking about Stairway to Heaven and it was a song about how we needed to be back to a more "natural" way of living and being aware of our environment.

Now look...I am the biggest environmentalist in the world maybe...and I even like Zep...I think Stairway is a great song, BUT IVE NEVER EVER made that connection.

Still, if Robert Plant says it, it's good enough for me.

Alice Cooper=Sucks

[Cha]

200. Cool!

[OnceUponATime]

205. You may be right about Zeppelin

Getting to a more natural way of living is a big theme for Plant, especially if you consider a song like "Down By the Seaside".

[ima_sinnic]

131. who cares what this washed-up self-indulgent has-been has to say?

[DemVIctory]

133. Gotta throw the Minutemen in there.

Great pick of them in Randoncoolzip's sig. The 1987 Rolling Stone mag essay contest winner wrote a theory about D being snuffed out by the Reagan Admin. Anyone else ever hear anything about that?

[tuvor]

135. "Rock should never get in bed with politics"???

I don't remember him dissing the punks of yesteryear.

In fact, he tried to co-opt the new wave part of punk with Flush the Fashion.

Some of the best damn rock songs are TOTALLY political!

At least he had the...something, it ain't balls...to admit he's a moron.

[lowreed]

141. Rock and Roll is all about "sticking it to the man"

from School of Rock.
Damn funny.

[Rosetta]

144. DU made me sad today...

I have never posted before, but have been reading for a very long time. The reason I don't post is mainly because most of you know so much more about the issues than I do, it makes me feel somewhat intimidated. However, today there is this thread about Alice Cooper. I know some things about Alice, and, apparently, most of you do not.

I read all the threads on Fahrenheit 911, and, yes, I did see the movie. I convinced my family and others to see it as well. Some of them chose to see it, because I would not discuss it with them until they had seen it. I learned that from you. You were unwilling to allow criticism from anyone who had not seen the movie. That made sense to me. However, you are no better than those criticizing that movie. You obviously have not been to a current Alice Cooper show and have no idea what he is really about. You read one article (much of which is incorrect) and then write more than 100 posts trashing the man. Hypocritical?

I do not know whether Alice is a republican or not, but I do know that after having conversations with him and his current band, I would never have guessed that he supports the chimperor. Alice and his band are out there now playing softball on their days off from the tour to earn money for charities. Alice has supported many charities, including the T.J. Martell Foundation (leukemia) and the Huntsman Cancer Institute. Yes, he is a rich white man, but he is also very willing to help those less fortunate.

Every member of my family is an Alice fan. I am the only one who pays a lot of attention to politics, but I tell them what I learn from you all, and they were finally listening, agreeing, reading DU on their own, and even sometimes attempting to convince others. My daughter found the Alice thread today, and DU has now lost all credibility. She knows more about Alice and his band than you ever will and knows many of the posts are "just wrong." She now wonders how many of the other posts about other issues she has read on DU are "just wrong," and, frankly, I'm wondering too.

[ElectroPrincess]

145. Serious Inquiry

Please don't stop ... explain you family's connection to this rock star?

Forgive me for being jaded but if you really luved Alice's rants ... you seemingly would not allow yourself or your kids to be so easily hurt. No, that's far from the distinct impression I have received from Alice's off-or-on stage personas.

[Bridget Burke]

148. The article said he considers Kerry supporters guilty of treason.

Did he NOT say that? I'm glad he does good work in his spare time, but that comment sounded pretty un-American.

[Nevernose]

149. To be fair, he said "Treason against Rock 'n Roll"

Not "Treason against America."

But if he seriosuly thinks rock music and politics aren't supposed to mix, he's got, to quote Judas Priest, "another thing coming."

[SideshowScott]

150. Well you HAVE to admit that was a pretty boneheaded thing for Alice to say

Im really not putting down your feelings for Alice Cooper but to say its treson for musicans to speak thier minds is boderline facist. Politics and Rock have been hand in hand since it started in the Blues and Jazz. Why do you think they call it the Blues? Jeez! It just took Elvis to put a happy face on it. Music is spposed to come from the heart and many people dislike the Bush Admin right down to the core you cant blame them to say how they really feel right? Or should they just shut up and play happy songs or face the wrath of being unamerican like Mr. Cooper is implying. Im sorry that you have been hurt by the things that have been said about Alice Cooper in this thread but a person cannot accuse other americans of treason without the wrath of the people who may disagree with the Bush admin AND love america. It was a VERY VERY DUMB thing to say and if you know Alice maby you should tell him to think about taking back those comments. He cant have it both ways by hanging out with noted republicans then saying that music should not be about politcs. Music should be about politcs but hey if you want pop drivel that talks about sex all the time then knock yourself out.
Scott

[Cookie wookie]

152. Rosetta, you've added perspective to the mix

If you can find out what he really said, and it differs from what was reported, please report back here on it. Would like to know myself, although my generation for rock was the sixties and early seventies and I've never "gotten over it." I crave the music like air to breathe even after all these years. Especially after all these years, because the 60s protest and political rock is as relevant or more so than ever.

I was talking to my sister a while back, who's an historian and 1,000 more a reader than I am. I was asking what her take on the current political situation was, "Is it the same or worse than the 60s." Of course I should know, since I was rocking in southern california at the time. But, I was too high to know what was going on. Anyway, she said she thought it was worse.

All I could say was at least back then we had great music, but then it was the music of my generation. But I sure wish I could hear the good stuff on the car radio, instead of being limited to listening on the internet.

Feel Like I'm Fixing To Die Rag (Next Stop Vietnam)


Country Joe & the Fish


Come on all of you big strong men
Uncle Sam needs your help again
he's got himself in a terrible jam
way down yonder in Viet Nam so
put down your books and pick up a gun we're
gonna have a whole lotta fun


(CHORUS)
And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for
don't ask me I don't give a damn, next stop is Viet Nam
And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die


Come on generals, let's move fast
your big chance has come at last
now you can go out and get those reds
cos the only good commie is the one that's dead and
you know that peace can only be won when we've
blown 'em all to kingdom come


Come on wall street don't be slow
why man this war is a go-go
there's plenty good money to be made by
supplying the army with the tools of its trade
let's hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
they drop it on the Viet Cong


Come on mothers throughout the land
pack your boys off to Viet Nam
come on fathers don't hesitate
send your sons off before it's too late
and you can be the first ones on your block
to have your boy come home in a box

[Dr Fate]

153. Did he ever even cut a good song?

What a non-event.

Is there even ONE talented GOP musician?

[Swamp Rat]

157. Vincent? Is that you?

[Cha]

201. LOL!

[JSJ]

159. alice has now lost his cred, irretreivably with zero chance of getting...

...it back. Although, he never had much to begin with. Oh yeah, he had one decent song. School's out for you, Alice. Don't come back.

[kwolf68]

183. Alice Cooper IS WRONG

Sorry, but to suggest REM, Bruce and others are treasonous is wrong.

WRONG.
WRONG.
WRONG.

Hear that? WRONG!

Now Alice can do what he damn well pleases, can say anything he wants, hell he can go to the RNC and sing songs for them, he can even say Democrats are vile pieces of crap…but do NOT suggest that free people in a free society speaking their mind is TREASONOUS.

That is carelessly inane and most importantly WRONG!

[leesa]

146. What a moran.

[bogey18]

154. Some songs just hit you

Lines form on my face and hands lines form from the ups and downs
I'm in the middle without any plans I'm a boy and I'm a man
I'm eighteen and I don't know what I want eighteen I just don't know what I want
Eighteen I gotta get away I gotta get out of this place I'll go runnin' in outer space oh yeah
I got a baby's brain and an old man's heart took eighteen years to get this far
Don't always know what I'm talkin' about feels like I'm livin' in the middle of doubt
'cause I'm eighteen I get confused every day eighteen I just don't know what to say eighteen I gotta get away
Whoa lines form on my face and my hands lines form on the left and right
I'm in the middle the middle of life I'm a boy and I'm a man
I'm eighteen and I like it yes I like it oh I like it love it like it love it
Eighteen eighteen eighteen eighteen and I like it

"I'm eighteen" hit me, event though it sounds a little manipulative now.

Well, Peter Townsend and Bob Seger have crapped their pants also. Jesus, is Springsteen the only one with a brain?

[Tabasco_Dave]

158. Alice and Nuge should get together

and start a republican has beens of rock tour.

[gauguin57]

160. One: Alice, rockers are citizens, too ...

... and, therefore, have just as much right as any other citizen to voice their opinions.

Two: In bed with politicians, in bed with corporations (Staples) -- using your music to draw citizens' attention to the issues vs. using your music to sell Trapper Keepers ... hmmm ... is it just me?

Three: Go play golf in loud pants with your Repuglican buddies, you has-been!

[truthisfreedom]

161. thank you, alice "just shut up" cooper. now alice, it's your turn to shut

the f*ck up. some musicians have a conscience.

[Norbert]

162. IDoes this mean I should throw all my Bob Dylan records away?

Come on Alice. Rock and Roll was always about making statements whether it was Yakity Yak or Pride, in the Name of Love.

[Sin]

164. So sad

Welp I don't think his msg of im stupid and if your a rocker you have to be as stupid as me to enjoy the music wont go to far
I guess school has truely been out forever for alice.

+ hi all du people been lurking here for a near 4 years now just dont post that mutch. :)

[ElectroPrincess]

167. Well, please do! ... SIN again :P

As you can see I'm far from a frequent poster but still request that you at least jump in once or twice in the next four years. LOL

I was livid about this because instead of David Cassidy, I put up Alice and Psychedellic Peace posters in my room as a pre-teen of the early 70s. DAMN, I was shocked by that statement. Expected as much ... saw the bloated right wing sell-out signs early from Nugent and Gene Simmons. However, I was blown away by this thread. Please note that not all avid golfers are republicans. Oh well, double damn. Alice ... Alice! What a nasty surprise.

[scarface2004]

166. so what..country joe and the fish are chop liver??!!

john lennon is spinning in his grave! god we miss you.

[Raster]

168. A little perspective, people... we are talking about Alice Cooper....

...painted up, washed up, snake totein', Alice Cooper, who outside of his own version of shock and awe, wasn't anything to write home about. Six months after his last hit, which seems like a century ago, he was a nothing. Sixty years from now he'll still be a nothing. Rave on, Alice. So you and McCaine sold your soul at the same political farmer's market? Big deal. Nothing to see folks, move on.

[Uber Es]

169. Alice Who?

:puke: Alice Has Been.
What mental midget cares what Pure Miss Mormon Cooper 2shoes thinks?
He has it made in Phoenix, living on a hilltop with the rest of the
wealthy republicans. Makes all his money selling swill to children
and then pontificates on Treason. Typical republican.

Hey Alice, turn up your hearing add Grandpa, no one can hear you.

[OnionPatch]

171. Just had to add

that it's pretty obvious to most of us that politics has produced some of the best rock n' roll EVER!! That Alice prefers to sing about dead babies is his problem.

[bushisanidiot]

172. Maybe "School's Out" Should be AWOL's Campaign theme song

just cancel school forever.. for everyone.

Keep them thar kids nice and stooopid and away from the voting booth.

[jayfish]

174. I Guess He Has Never Heard Of...

Rage Against The Machine or Metallica or Mega-Death or U2 or who fucking ever. Keep yer yap shut and your head in a hole Alice. No-one will notice you... I promise.

Jay

[fujiyama]

177. He's correct to some extent

HE definetely is a moron.

[2bfree]

179. I just heard when Cooper played in Houston.......

this summer he only had about 150 people show up. What a washed up loser.

[bloom]

180. Now it makes sense - my brother liking him so much

He gave me two Alice Cooper records when I was in high school and I didn't like either one of them...

(My brother, of course, has only become more and more right wing over the years).

[kwolf68]

181. That damn pesky thing

Called free-speech.

CEOs have the right to do it, The NRA, Aryan Nations, KKK, Communists, Anarchists, Atheists, Agnostics, Christians, Rednecks, Black people, White People, men, women, kids, and old people, .... see Alice in this country ANYONE can SAY pretty much anything they want.

For a group of people to speak out against the most well-funded, well-heeled junta in American history is absolutely NOT treason.

MORON

[mumon]

185. I kinda have a soft spot for

Paul Kantner's "Shadowlands" (about a female serial killer of Republicans).

Is that too political?

Country Joe & the Fish???

[GoddessOfGuinness]

187. For What It's Worth...

Stephen Stills (Rock-n-Roll traitor) wrote this in 1966:

There's somethin' happenin' here.
What it is ain't exactly clear.
There's a man with a gun over there
A-tellin' me I've got to beware.

I think it's time we stop.
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's goin' down.

There's battle lines bein' drawn.
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong.
Young people speakin' their minds
A-gettin' so much resistance from behind.

I think it's time we stop.
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's goin' down.

What a field day for the heat.
A thousand people in the street
Singin' songs and a-carryin' signs
Mostly sayin' hooray for our side.

It's time we stop.
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's goin' down.

Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your life it will creep.
It starts when you're always afraid.
Step out of line, the men come and take you away.

You better stop.
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's goin'..
You better stop.
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's goin'..
You better stop.
Now, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's goin'..
You better stop.
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's goin'..

[kori]

188. Treason against the essence of rock and roll.....

I think that is what Alice is trying to say.

"To me, that's treason. I call it treason against rock 'n' roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics," says the 56-year-old Cooper, who began a 15-city Canadian tour on August 20 in Thunder Bay, Ont.

The true spirit of rock should be above politics. You know, the real spirit of rock is about making money. Selling your one hit wonder to an office supply store to push back to school supplies to kids. Oh yeah that is the real essence of rock. Glad to see you finally got it Alice

[cosmicvortex20]

189. Hes right about one thing...

If your listening to rock stars for a political opinion... you are retarded.

[kori]

190. Depends on the rock star

Many many rock songs have real relevance and have great lines in them. Several quoted in the threads above.
One of my favorites, although not a political song, but one of the best lines in any song is from Bob Segers Against the Wind. I find myself thinking that line many times as I see what has happened to this country in the last four years.

"I wish I didn't know now, what I didn't know then"

[mitchum]

202. Is that carny still alive?

[MagickMuffin]

203. This just in:

CNN had a story last week about rockers for Bush. I didn't wait around for the story, but they showed a picture of CheapTrick.

So, I thought of the perfect line up
Starting the show will be Cheap Trick, KISS, RATT, and ending with a little Poison ....

[OnceUponATime]

206. How can any self-respecting

rocker come out for Bush? I know some of these bands aren't exactly intellectual giants, but I just don't get it. Rock 'n roll should be on the same page, or stage, as Jessica Simpson and Toby Keith.

If rock stands for anything, it stands as the ultimate opposing force to one thing...
conservatism.

[MagickMuffin]

204. This just in:

Sorry it posted twice