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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:58 AM
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Bush Needs US Muslim Votes: Report
IslamOnline,net


As opinion polls said Muslims are to vote him down, US President George W. Bush needs votes of the community to secure a re-election, American press reports said.

Christian Science Monitor was one of the newspapers underling the growing influence of Muslims in the November presidential elections.

With five million Muslims living concentrated in areas across the country, you end up with something that might look like a bloc and vote like a bloc, the paper said.

Polls in 2000 showed Muslims favored Bush over Al Gore by a wide margin - some showed support in the 90 percent range - and some groups argued that some 60,000 Muslim votes put Bush over the top in Florida. ..

The incumbent president? With a little work he may break out of the single digits with Muslim-American voters, the paper warned.

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:00 PM
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1. After what shit he did in Iraq and Afghanistan
He just lost the Muslim votes.

Hawkeye-X
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:07 PM
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4. Not to mention tossing thousands of them into jail
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 12:07 PM by Downtown Hound
with no trials, no charges, and harsh treatment. Gee, now why would his support be so low among that group?
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:08 PM
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5. Actually a DUer about a month ago posted info showing
that despite everything Muslims are supporting Bush. Hopefullly other polls will show that this is in fact changing.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:17 PM
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9. Poll in July showed Bush with only 24% with Arab-Americans
See my earlier post in this thread.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 02:40 PM
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16. Big difference between Arab-Americans and Muslim-Americans
Most Arab-Americans are Christians.

Don

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 01:07 PM
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12. Not to mention Palestine. n/t
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:02 PM
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2. I guess the pork barrel approach won't work...
Har.

Maybe he can have Boykin slip them some Faith-based money...
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:06 PM
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3. Show up at the next rally with Pickles in a chadoor...
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:10 PM
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6. Well, why did they vote for him in the first place?
How many al-qaida cells are there in this country? They voting as a bloc too? Whose pulling the strings in the mosques around here?

I dont know allah from crayola, but I'd bet he's torqued at the 90% of the faithful that voted the dickhead into office. Many, many trips to Mecca for atonement must follow.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 01:56 PM
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14. I'm fairly sure...
that in the year 2000, it was a vote against the Gore/Lieberman ticket, not a vote for Bush. I think we tend to forget that at least two "blocs" were heavily influenced by Gore's selection of a Jewish running mate.

I would be shocked beyond belief if Bush won a substantial number of Muslim votes in this year's election. The idea that it would even be possible after all that has happened seems ludicrous.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 02:26 PM
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15. I think you are correct and thank you
it is still foolish nonetheless. the mullahs should have known the neocons are american likudniks.

the devil you know, etc
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bigtime Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:11 PM
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7. Junior wants Muslim votes
ha, and people in hell want icewater.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:16 PM
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8. Zogby poll show Arab-Americans will not be voting for Bush
Kerry Top Choice For Arab Americans
(CPOD) Jul. 18, 2004 – Massachusetts senator John Kerry remains the
favourite candidate for Arab Americans in four key states, according to a poll by Zogby International released by the Arab American Institute. 51 per cent of respondents would vote for the prospective Democratic nominee in the 2004 United States presidential election, while 24 per cent would support Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Independent candidate Ralph Nader—who is of Lebanese descent—garners the support of 13 per cent of respondents.
http://www.cpod.ubc.ca/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=3429

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:33 PM
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11. High Percentage To Vote For Nader - Ugh
WASHINGTON - A majority of eligible American Muslim voters would vote for Democratic presidential contender John Kerry and independent hopeful Ralph Nader in the November presidential elections, according to a poll released on Tuesday, June 29, by a prominent American Islamic civil rights group.

Fifty four percent of eligible Muslim voters said they would vote for Kerry and 26 percent for Nader, an American of Lebanese descent, while 14 percent remain undecided, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said.

According to the survey of 1161 individuals taken this month, 34 percent of respondents said the Democratic Party best represents American Muslims' interests, closely followed by the Green Party at 24 percent.

Almost one-quarter (22 percent) of those polled said no party reflected their views

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/story.php?sid=20040701094742308#

From The Christian Science Monitor...

Polls in 2000 showed Muslims favored Bush over Mr. Gore by a wide margin - some showed support in the 90 percent range - and some groups argued that some 60,000 Muslim votes put Bush over the top in Florida.

It's amazing how much can change in four years - years that have included Sept. 11, John Ashcroft, and the Patriot Act. The latest poll by the Council on American-Islamic Relations shows John Kerry with 54 percent of the Muslim vote in the 2004 race, comfortably ahead of Ralph Nader, who garners 26 percent. The president? With a little work he may break out of the single digits with Muslim-American voters.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0817/p09s01-codc.html


Wealthy Muslims still supporting Shrub

The New York Times reports that Muslim and Arab Americans have already added hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bush's sizeable campaign war chest. Several Muslim and Arab Americans have reached the Bush campaign's "Ranger" and "Pioneer" donor levels, raising a minimum of $200,000 and $100,000 respectively.

Two of Bush's top financial backers are Florida-based Iranian Americans. Fred Pezeshkan, president and CEO of Kraft Construction Company in Naples (don't miss Pezeshkan's inspiring video presentation) and Morteza (Mori) Hosseini (right), CEO of ICI Homes, a Daytona Beach real estate development company, have each donated $200,000 to the campaign. For Hosseini, this has bought special access to the President, including an invitation to a White House Christmas party and a private meeting with Bush.

Another major Bush backer is Dr. Malik Hasan, former CEO of the nation's 4th largest HMO, Foundation Health Systems. According to the Times, Hasan has donated "several hundred thousand dollars," earning him a personal visit with the President at his Crawford, Texas ranch.
http://www.muslimwakeup.com/mainarchive/2004/02/000551print.php
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 01:31 PM
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13. Arab-Americans strongly supported Bush in Florida in 2000
Even the slightest drop-off of support in Florida for Bush will mean a Kerry win.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 03:47 PM
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17. So?
Money for influence when they know Kerry will not punish them like W is capable of doing is an investment. It doesn't mean THEY will actually vote for him.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:24 PM
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10. Yes, but he won't get them - DUH
Don't need a Ph.D to figure that one out.
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