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Gunit_Sangh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:42 AM
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Software Service Aims to Outfox Caller ID
This is pretty cheney'n unreal ...

By KEN BELSON

Published: September 2, 2004


Like most bill collectors, Marvin Smith is always seeking ways to get chronic debtors to pay up. When he calls the first time, he typically hears excuses and requests for more time. When Mr. Smith calls again, the debtors often block his calls using ordinary caller ID technology from the phone company.

That means he then visits in person, a time-consuming and sometimes dangerous task. But Mr. Smith, who runs a collection agency in Austin, Tex., says he may have found a solution: a new computerized service enabling him to create false outbound phone numbers with a click of a mouse, so he can skirt the call blockers.

The service, the first commercial version of a technology known mainly among software programmers and the computer-hacker underground until now, was introduced nationwide on Wednesday by a California company called Star38.

For $19.99 a month and as little as 7 cents a minute, customers can go to the company's Web site (www.star38.com), log in and then type the number that they want to call and the number that they want to appear on the caller ID screen of the recipient's phone.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/02/technology/02caller.html

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:44 AM
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1. This is illegal
in many states including CA.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:49 AM
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2. Guess I'll start keeping a WHISTLE by the phone
I love CallerID and it pisses me off the technology is so lam it can be spoofed so easily.

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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 11:15 AM
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3. I just don't bother
to answer the phone for anyone I don't know. I let the audix get it, and if it's a creditor, they just get erased.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 11:23 AM
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4. You're absolutely right!
We have caller ID and if we don't pick up before the fourth ring the answering machine asks for a message. Most all "junk" callers hang up.
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 12:23 PM
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5. so, hypothetically, a person could call the white house and make death
threats, but make it look like the call came from this guy's collection agency.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 12:30 PM
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6. Hypothetically speaking, you're right
I hope it doesn't happen.... that could cause a lot of disruption.

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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:31 PM
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8. yes, you're right. so then, let's say hypothetically
someone could call and order 25 pizza's from papa john's and have them delivered to mr. smarty pants bill collector. and when papa john's looks at their caller ID, it would have said collection agency's phone number.

same would go if one hypothetically ordered a truck load of concrete to be dumped on the bill collector's front lawn -- on credit, or course. or to call the local tv station and confess to a couple of murders.

so someone could turn mr. smarty pants bill collector's hot shot technique back on him.

hypothetically.
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TO Kid Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 01:24 PM
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7. It could still be traced
It goes back to the service provider, which (one would hope) keeps track of the caller's IP address. Public terminal=payphone in this scenario.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:40 PM
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10. IP spoofing is as old as the hills...
...plus I can imagine all the ruckus getting an ISP to release subscriber's logs would cause.

Oh, wait, they're doing that already. :eyes:
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 04:37 PM
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9. Can't outfox an answering machine
I let 90 percent of the messages coming in go through to voice mail, who says you have to answer the phone just because it's ringing?
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