DEMOCRATS TELL KERRY TO TURN UP THE HEAT

[volosong]

Many Democrats are telling Kerry to turn up the heat on his campaign or get out of the kitchen.

Just like most of us have been saying all day.


http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/index.html

[joefree1]

1. Time to rumble

Bring it on.

[Melodybe]

5. With Iran-Contra and Bush's dangerous environmental record

Bush better look out.

For the last 4 years Bush has been letting every single corporation that has crossed his path to dump every bit of their hazardous watse where ever they want.

We are talking mercury in our fish and arsenic in our drinking water, not to mention all the new CO2 in our air, these fuckers are slowing killing us. Kerry will nail him on it.

I am just giddy about Iran-Contra, people are long past due for a little history lesson about what Bushco/Reagan were up to in the 80's.

Kerry is starting to unleash now, every talk show, every speech and YAY the debates, Kerry will hit them. Combined with F 9/11, which is absolutely wonderful at filling in the blanks on the Bush/Saudi/Arab world ties and oh yeah, let us not forget its healthy dose of exposure for our dear "liberal" media. Their own record is the biggest weapon we have and I can't wait.

Pass the popcorn, this is about to get good.

[calimary]

33. It's gotta be Kerry AND... EVERYBODY.

All of them, and I MEAN ALL of them have to take their Howard Dean calcium fortificationi pills every morning, for starters. EVERYBODY has to hit these guys. Not JUST Kerry.

But I'll tell you this much, Kerry better get out there and meet 'em head-on, because one of the things a lot of those undecideds will note, if they haven't noted it already, is - how badly DOES this guy want to be president? Is he really going to fight for me? Is he gonna fight for this? Or isn't he? It's like with "Show Me the Money." SHOW ME THE REASON, Mr. Kerry! Leaving them with a milquetoast "I'm not sure WHY I should vote for him" is a likely impression if you, yourself, have mounted a milquetoast campaign.

I hope to heck Kerry is the "great closer" everyone says he is. Because closing time is rapidly approaching.

[niceypoo]

38. I bet the DNC are regretting wrecking the Dean Campaign..............

He would be wiping his ass with Bush and Cheney. Instead they got the incompetent, milquetoast, "Turn the other cheek", campaign they wanted so bad. Thanks for the endless attacks on Dean DNC. My children thank you.

[baby_bear]

37. Melodybe, I am not as optimistic as you

I hope you are right, but since the masses were passive when Iran-Contra happened (and I watched the hearings every night on CSPAN - but I don't know anyone else who did- someone must have!), I am not certain they care now that some of the same bastards are pulling some of the same stunts.

Most people don't seem to care, to know, or more important, they don't want to know these "details." It drives me nuts and it drives them nuts when I try to talk about these things.

Is there a way to talk to the people who prefer ignorance in a manner that makes them curious about what the Bushistas have done and hope to keep doing?

I think my technique must be wrong.

s_m

[Born Free]

41. It's about the "feelings" stupid

All this talk about issues; when are democrats going to realize the bush team is ignoring the issues and using the "feelings" they promote their coward as the guy that will make you feel better, safer, stronger and the Democrats are stuck with reality. It's like the short period just as you are to have sex, the mind shuts down, reason shuts down and all you can think about is sex. People that vote for the bush team are not using reason, they are not thinking of issues or what's better for America, all they think of is "feeling good" . Yes, they will throw up some stupid issue, much in the way a person uses a "feature" a car has that he just bought as an reason but the real reason he bought it is it makes him "feel good".

Democrat must stop focusing on discussing issues, they must stop believing that reality will win and start working on "feelings" they must show the bush coward for what he is and show Americans they can "feel" safe, better, happier with Democrats. It's not about reality it's about "feelings"

[skooooo]

58. Interesting point..

...I'm starting to come around to that line of thinking myself. You might want to read this:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/090404.html

[Carpe_Veritas]

60. Agreed!!

Well said.

[rsmith6621]

2. And The Church All Said.....

AMEN.......to that.

[bearfan454]

3. Fucking Eh !

AWOL, ECONOMY, JOBS EXPORTED, and then some.

[saracat]

4. Go John Go!

[lancdem]

6. This is a good article

I hate to admit I agree with Ed Gillespie, but in this case I do.

[DuaneBidoux]

8. Have Faith in Kerry

He is a TRUE achiever. Have you ever seen that guy snow board. AWESOME. I watched tape of him snowboarding better than 98% of the guys on the slopes half his age. He speaks two languages fluently, watch him play the guitar, he's great. And he knows tons of poetry by Keats by heart.

THUS my conclusion: Never underestimate this guy. He doesn't attempt anything without becoming the BEST at what he does. Oh, by the way, one of those talents of which he has so many? Debates.

[lancdem]

9. I know he has the ability to ratchet it up

But he has to do it ASAP.

[malatesta1137]

18. and I don't think he EVER lost

an election, has he?

[DS1]

19. He's never ran for President before?

I could have sworn this wasn't the first time...

[devinsgram]

51. He's been in the mix before, but never nominated.

[iwantmycountryback]

24. I think he ran for the house and lost

In the mid 70's, maybe once or twice. Otherwise however, he hasn't lost an election in over 2 decades.

[Gloria]

35. Yes, he lost a race in MA....Congress?

Very early on....maybe his first race.

[Cheswick2.0]

45. oh great, a liberal democrat never lost an election in MA

not that impressive.

[KC21304]

64. Well I think I see some progress here.

You have concluded Kerry is liberal ?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

7. 3 Senators, 2 Governors and a former White House Chief of Staff:

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2004/09/04/politics/campaign/20040905_CAMP_GRAPH.html

...from Tom Harkin, Harold Ickes, Ed Rendell, Evan Bayh, Bob Graham and Jennifer Granholm, namely:

1). Never defend, always attack.
2). Jobs, economy, health care, education. That's IT.
3). SMACK BACK.
4). National security issues = Bush/Rove/Hughes playing field. GET OFF THEIR FIELD.
5). Pick two determinative issues and stick with them.
6). Straightforward and simple on one or two issues

[lancdem]

10. All good advice

and it's not contradictory, which helps.

[KC21304]

11. I don't agree Kerry should give up the national security issue.

He can tie it in with the economy. Because of Bush's dreadful idea of handling national security by going to war and making the rest of the world hate us, the economy is the pits.

[sandraj]

30. Good point

about relating it to the economy. But the "Bush has made the world safe from terrorism" is such a red herring. It would be hard to unravel that whole Rovian fantasy world without untying a lot of knots.

[Cheswick2.0]

44. people won't understand that message

and Kerry is not GOOD at making people understand his message.
Listen to the people who know what they are talking about. Rendell does politics better than almost anybody. He's right, politics 101, you need 2 campaign themes that are yours and NOT the other guy's. Then you beat it to death..no matter what the question is you find a way to bring the answer back to your message, your themes.

[volosong]

56. KERRY SHOULD TIE 3 MAJOR ISSUES TOGETHER

He really must link national security, terrorism, and Iraq in one bag using public discontent on Iraq to kill Bush on the other issues and prove his incompetence.

[wrate]

13. Please add to that:

1) Will get U.S. troops out of Iraq as soon as possible (form true International coalition to rebuild and stabilize country).

[NeoConsSuck]

15. If they paid me to make commercials..

Economy: Show depression era souplines with depressing music. Change to a picture of Hoover, and under him "There has been only one president since President Hoover who's administration has lost more jobs than they've created" Then a slowwwww fade to the AWOL prick.

I'll think of an environment & Weapons of Mass Deception commercial and report back :)

[Catfight]

47. good idea, like the disappearing weapons, we have the disappearing Bush. n/

[ozymandius]

50. Fast forward to modern day America.

A friend told me yesterday that he returned for a visit to his home town in West Virginia. He witnessed a food line full of families, reminiscent of the soup lines of the great depression.

Your idea would be poignantly emphasized with this scene.

[TomClash]

16. Counterattack on their turf

I strongly disagree. Kerry should turn the boat around, beach it and go right after the guy with the rocket launcher.

"9/11 happened under Bush's watch."

"In a candid moment with Matt Lauer, Bush said he can't win the War on Terror."

John Kerry can then say "Elect me. I think I can win the War on Terror."

And then say it again and again and again.

"We're failing in Afghanistan and Iraq. They've passed secrets to foreign governments. They outed a covert CIA operative for political reasons. They scare us with meaningless alerts. 9/11 happened on their watch. Can we trust these people with our national security?"

And then say it again and again and again.

[gulfcoastliberal]

29. You and #15 are on the right track...

Bush chose to run on security and is always the first to proclaim his policies working whenever less people are laid off than expected.

It's not going negative. It's the truth. Sorry if they think their truth is negative (which it is, and sorry, and unAmerican).

[Gloria]

36. He has to face the national security issues...or else it's 2002 midterms

all over again!!!!!

For God's sake, Kerry went for months talking about how his VP had to have national security experience....he picked Edwards, who now is talking about national security issues! But it's Kerry who should be doing it and also getting Wes Clark out there....

Terrorist activity under Bush has gone UP!! He should ignore that???

This is the area where the aura of strength is so critical!!

I can't stand another 2002 midterm election!!!

[Cheswick2.0]

46. Welcome to DU Tom............... however

John Kerry can then say "Elect me. I think I can win the War on Terror."


That is an incredibly wimpy statement.
Fact is that Kerry can not out tough bush. Bush is the guy who blew up frogs for fun and mocked women as he put them to death

[TomClash]

65. Wimpy?

Ok, fine. I WILL win the War on Terror.

Bush ran away on 9/11, hopping from air force base to air force base, finally huddling and cuddling at Offut. Before that he sat reading "My Pet Goat" for 7 minutes in a Florida elementary school. He evaded service in Vietnam, a war he supported, while young working class men died. The guy told the Canadian PM's press secretary, Scott Reid. that he had a "pretty face" and was "prettier than my Scott," meaning Scott McClellan.

Kerry beached a small boat in a Mekong Delta tributary and after taking fire, jumped off and hunted down and killed a VC carrying a rocket launcher. And you're talking to me about killing little frogs?

If Kerry can't out-tough Bush he doesn't deserve to be President.

[liberalcanuck]

52. Welcome to DU TomClash and great first post! n/t

:hi: :toast:

[TomClash]

66. "Welcome to DU TomClash and great first post! n/t"

Thanks jubug3.

[Richardson08]

53. Ahmad Chalabi

Don't forget about the Pentagon's buddy Mr.Chalabi who turned out to be a corrupt thug.He passed along intelligence of Iraq's "alleged" WMD's and worked with the Iranians

Didn't he attend one of state of union speeches sitting next to the first lady?

America defeated the Taliban using the weaponry and military created under the Bill Clinton administration

Bush was against the formation of the 9/11 commission.Attempted to force that commission to submit their findings before they had completed their investigation.Did not embrace the 9/11 findings but changed his tune after the families expressed their disappoint.

Can you say flip flop?

Haliburton.455,000 stock options.HAL has increased from $10 to over $30 with the contracts from our government.Do the math!!!

I wish James Caraville was in charge

The Medicare bill is a joke.Price fixing designed to help the drug companies instead of getting a better price

[sampsonblk]

20. Regarding #4

He should go negative on their strengths.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

22. Kick! Love Harkin's Offense Attack advise.

It's how you win campaigns you know.

[dansolo]

23. I completely disagree with #4

If we concede National Security issues to Bush, we will lose, period. That is the worst possible advice. But in order to address the national security issues of today, Kerry needs to stop talking about Vietnam. He needs to attack their record, both before and after 9/11. What Kerry needs to do is to paint a complete picture how all of their actions and policies have made us less safe.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

26. I think it's more about Kerry controlling his own agenda...

...as opposed to having Karl Rove control it for him.

I wouldn't suggest that he concede any issue to Bush. And you've outlined a good strategy. But it needs to be on Kerry's schedule, on Kerry's terms...that's why I believe the remark was made to "get off of Bush's playing field." Too much of this is being orchestrated by Rove and Hughes. They will do everything they can to keep him in "react" mode, which will kill him. He needs to be on the offensive to such a degree that he "outfoxes the fox," or "the hunter is captured by the game"...take your pick. He needs to turn their own game against them...HAMMER TIME.

I've posted the following URL several times in the last few days, but in light of this discussion it's worth another read. It's a link to a Salon story on Hughes published well in advance of the first Swift Boat ads. With hindsight, it's pretty easy to connect the dots and see that the whole mess was NOT Rove's exclusive brainchild.

http://archive.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/04/27/hughes/

Karen Hughes' high-octane gall

April 27, 2004 | For George W. Bush's surrogates to question John Kerry's war record, as they have continued to do in recent days, requires a special Republican brand of super-high-octane gall. Why would the president want to draw additional attention to the most unflattering contrast between him and the Democratic challenger? Why would his flacks reopen the painful issues of that era by questioning Kerry's undoubted heroism? If anyone ever earned the right to talk about what he had seen in Vietnam and why no more Americans should kill or die there, it was the young, highly decorated Navy lieutenant who had volunteered for duty.

Perhaps Bush and his strategists believe that offense is the only way to play defense on his spotty National Guard record. Perhaps they think that with enough money and enough noise, they can erase Kerry's medals and heroism. (After all, according to a recent Harris poll, millions of Americans evidently believe that U.S. troops actually found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, so it is reasonable to think they would believe almost anything.) And perhaps they expect the mainstream media to assist in defacing Kerry's character -- just as important media organizations smeared Al Gore four years ago with Republican spin points.

Whatever plan the White House is pursuing, Karen Hughes proved last Sunday that the highly personal attack on Kerry is coming directly from the top. No one can doubt that Hughes speaks for Bush, sometimes quite literally, as she did in "A Charge to Keep," the Bush "autobiography" she ghosted for him in 1999. She claimed to be "very troubled" by comments Kerry made in 1971 about atrocities he witnessed during the war and urged the press to "follow up some line of inquiry" about whether he was inventing and exaggerating those concerns -- or whether he might even have committed war crimes himself. "I wish we knew a little bit more about that," said the troubled Hughes, as if deeply concerned whether Kerry tossed his ribbons or his medals over a fence at the Pentagon during a 1971 demonstration.

More likely Hughes was just being her disingenuous self when suggesting Kerry's wartime behavior hadn't gotten enough scrutiny. At any rate, she isn't in the best position to accuse Kerry or anyone else of false pretenses. Among the press corps that covered the 2000 campaign, her instinct to conceal and dissemble was well known. Indeed, conservative journalist Tucker Carlson suggested last year that her willingness to lie for Bush "almost crosses over ... into mental illness." Feigning indignation over comments made by Kerry more than 30 years ago would pose no challenge for Hughes.

[xxqqqzme]

32. just watching Bill Maher

re-run - at the end of 'New Rules' on screen is 9/11 picture of squatter @ ground zero w/ bullhorn Maher: 'You don't build a campaign around your biggest fuck-up because YOU were on vacation.' FDR didn't build a campaign around Pearl Harbor!'

I worked at the swap meet 2day and we had dems stopping by all day saying what we have all been saying 4 over a month. Time 2 pick up the pool cue and start swinging (J Stewart)

[fujiyama]

34. Some good advice

Some not so good advice.

I'm one of those that believes it's absolutely impossible to win this election if you don't address the national security issue, including the problem of Iraq. National security MUST be addressed. People are going to be thinking of it even more after the terrible events in Russia. It should be made clear that the administration's adventure into Iraq has been a collasal FAILURE and a DISTRACTION from the war on terrorism.

Otherwise I think most of the advice is good. Short simple answers that can be packaged into sound bytes. Stress your economic plan - JOBS and HEALTHCARE being the most important issues here.

And of course, BE AGGRESSIVE. Don't sit back and let them smack you around. Put THEM on the defensive. He has a record to answer for. That includes EVERYTHING - from jobs, to healthcare, to Iraq, to the environment, to his fuck up in Iraq to the erosion of civil liberties.

[cal04]

12. from an aricle on Al Jazeera

The experts agreed that Kerry should be focusing on the economy and social issues such as jobs, education, health care and Social Security. Bush’s father lost his bid for re-election in 1992 precisely because he ignored the economy. “If Kerry is to make a move, he needs to focus on domestic issues because his strengths are there, and Bush is lacking,” Davis said.

A recent Gallup poll showed Kerry leading Bush 49-43 percent in voter confidence in his ability to manage the economy. The president also did not appear to have scored many points with his tax cut proposals.
After weeks on the defensive over attacks on his Vietnam War record, Kerry seems eager to refocusing on domestic issues.

“It’s all warmed-over stuff from previous State of the Union messages and stump speeches,” Kaplan said.“He wants people to believe he’s focused on the future and optimistic, but there was little detail to it and he showed little understanding of how fearful some people are about their economic future.”

David Corbin, a professor at the University of New Hampshire, agreed the president’s speech contained little new substance.
“He (Bush) is trying to mention different parts of the domestic platform and sprinkle optimism on education, the economy, taxes, health care. He barely touches the issue and sprinkles optimism on.”
Bush is at his best when discussing foreign policy and terrorism, Corbin said. “When he gets back to that theme, it’s really where his heart is.” Corbin said the strategy could backfire and alienate many swing voters, particularly those who would say it is all well and good to promote freedom abroad, but attention must be paid to suffering at home

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2004%20opinions/September/4%20o/George%20Bush%20Runs%20Risk%20in%20Staking%20All%20on%20Terror%20War%20Gersende%20Rambourg.htm

[ItsMyParty]

14. One insignificant question:

How much do the assholes around him get paid for the idiotic advice they have given him all this while???? This was common sense IF one is attuned to the public, the Dem base and reality in general. One could see this weeks ago. We screamed it here. It's political science 101. Shed this dead baggage that clings to this campaign and start THINKING for starters. Thank God, I finally feel like we were heard. Some other dunderhead politicians never did wake up and they are now a footnote of history. If all else fails, John, use the 'fuck' word to get yourself on tv---it worked for our ever charming VP.

[Moderator]

17. LBN Rules...

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[Doosh]

21. then we're playing right into Rove's hands

because it's pretty obvious now that Kerry is going to go on the attack.....you think Rove isn't ready?

I think we need to throw ol' Karl a curveball, hit Bush a little harder this month, but don't totally abandon the positive theme, especially with Edwards. Save our worst slime for early October. Maybe float some innuendo about Bush, try to define him as a "misleader" like they've done with "flip flopper"

[EST]

25. You be right.

Everybody's exepcting Kerry to attack Bush on the issues--nono.
Turn the boat-attack Bush! attack Rove! Better yet, we have a lot on some of the less visible but arguably more potent players in that satan's circle-attack them, and destroy. Get somebody else-move-on pac? to turn the tables and attack right where it's not expected. I remember a little about fighting, too, and I know you not only have to be effective, you have to be unexpected!

[Doosh]

27. one idea I had

plant a story somewhere, that John McCain is unhappy with Bush/Considering withdrawing his endorsement and leaving the campaign. Yea it's probably completely false, but at least it puts them on the defensive and plants some uncertainty and doubt into the minds of voters.

[EST]

28. Whom would you call?

If the outlet was at all worth a shit-which they would be, since it's McCain, they'd call the bastard before they'd run such a speculation, don't you think?

[Doosh]

31. it doesn't have to be that way

but, perhaps a few Dem leaning columnist could slide it into his article "high level sources tell me...." You know upper level kerry advisors have friends in the media.

watch McCain categorically deny it, BUT what will the sheeple think?

they'll think "Hey, McCain and Bush had a rocky relationship, maybe this is true"

then the media will pick up on what Bush did to McCain in 2000, then they'll bring up McCains "get your fucking hands off me" quote, and soon this is spiraling out of control

[goclark]

39. Who is the hatchet man/woman now?

If it Lockhart, let's see him front and center.
It should not be up to Kerry to keep up the tough talk.
He needs a Carville type that does it for him.

I am now solidly a Kerry fan.
He is amazing and he is giving it every ounce of his heart and soul. John Edwards too.

But, it will take ALL of us to beat these thugs. Keep your checkbooks open and give until it hurts.

We sent a check to the Democratic Party. Yesterday we got an 8 x 1O glossy picture of JK and JE thanking us for the contribution.

Today another envelope came from the DNC. This one was with a letter from James Carville. His letter said that we got the wrong photograph the first time. You open it up and there is a 5/7 of ugly Bush and Cheney. The letter said something like" this is what you'll be looking at for the next four years if you don't send more money and work hard for this election!" :)

Carville is my man! He hits the ball out of the park. Can't he leave CNN to the rats and work the Kerry campaign?

[DaveSZ]

40. I don't understand why he didn't talk about BCCI and Iran Contra b4

[DeepModem Mom]

42. Where are our scorching 527 ads, playing relentlessly?

Kerry can fight back personally, without being a hatchet man, and let some ads do their work.

[0007]

43. Straightforwardness is a virtue that very few possess

Let it all hang out Mr. Kerry. You got it!

[liberalcanuck]

48. I agree 0007. As I heard Joe Klein say on MTP last night, if he has

advisors telling him what to say based on focus groups, then he's doomed. He needs to just speak from his gut, he can do it, I've seen it before. Going negative works for a reason. At the very least it demarcates clearly the differences and for me, it shows that you're willing to take risks. Tell us WHY you want the job. Give them a reason to vote for you John! It's not enough to not be Bush -- let the people know why you are the solution, cuz we all know there are a lot of problems.

[0007]

49. Right on jubug3 -

[Snellius]

54. It's Iraq, stupid

.

[robbedvoter]

55. Yet another Nagourney "Worried Democrats" piece. It's what he does

only now he doesn't put it in the title after his headlines became butts of jokes..
It's he framing the questions (and answers - which for the most were probably "yes" or "No")

[lulu]

57. Bush must be proven to be a coward re: 9/11

According to the Daily Brew:

(snip)
Bush must be attacked for his chicken-shit response to the attacks of September 11.

To win this election, Kerry has to tear a hole in Bush’s machismo, and stories about Bush going AWOL in the national guard 30 years ago aren’t going to do it. The electorate doesn’t care if Bush was a pussy when he was 22. Karl Rove’s smoke and mirrors have effectively convinced them that Bush is now the Buford Pusser of the post cold war world, walking tall, carrying a big stick. Fortunately, the facts show that Bush hasn’t changed. His courage is still limited to wars where other people’s kids are killed. When his own ass is on the line, Bush is still Barney Fife.

I suggest that Kerry, and those of us who support Kerry’s campaign, aggressively remind the public that Bush is a coward, and his response to September 11 proved it. Let’s have a conversation about that fateful day, when Bush sat for seven minutes in a Florida grade school, like a deer caught in the headlights. Let’s talk about the fact that when he left that classroom, he then spent all day flying around the country, from one safe house to the next. As the whole nation watched the towers burn, then collapse, Bush couldn’t even find the courage to step in front of a television camera. Rove was so embarrassed by Bush’s obvious cowardice that he had to put out a cover story. Maybe Bush should be asked to explain the lies put out by the White House to explain his chicken shit behavior; that they had specific information that Air Force One had been targeted.

Let’s then remind everyone that journalists who pointed out these obvious facts at the time were fired. When our country was attacked, Bush ran in circles, scared of his own shadow, other people ran the country, and anyone who pointed out that the King had no clothes lost their job. Bush will deny it, since Bush has built his whole campaign (not to mention his whole foreign policy) around September 11, let’s argue about how Bush behaved on that fateful day, just three years ago. It sure as hell is going to sound more relevant than which December day John Kerry spent in Cambodia 30 years ago.

www.thedailybrew.com

[goclark]

62. Yes,he was a FLOP!!!

That should be said over and over...

He was a total FLOP on 911.

I was talking to a Bush supporter yesterday. Of course he said he had not seen F911. Then I reminded him that Bush sat and did NOTHING. Bushite then gave me the "collecting his thoughts" line of garbage.

He was holding his little girls hand at the time. I told him," If you were in your living room and someone told you that your little girl feel down in the back yard and you were reading a book to your son , would you collect your thoughts before going to see about your daughter?"

He tried to stutter something else and I zinged back at him,"You know you would rush to see about your little girl that fell."

Then I said," After you found out that she needed to go to the hospital,would you send someone else with her while you went back to reading to your son?" ...still stuttering

I followed that up with,"Think about it, Bush was a FLOP that morning ,and the rest of that entire day and a FLOP for his entire four years. His MISSION was NOT ACCOMPLISHED in Iraq or at HOME. Case closed"

We not only need to pound on that moment,which was suppose to be the true test of his leadership,we need to make it personal to the audience that we are addressing.

For example, if you are talking to parents of young children say the above. Teenagers, use their parents,siblings,best friend. Seniors, use their spouse,children or elderly close friends. Pet Owner, use their pets as an example.

Hit them hard,that is the only way to get them because they have no soul. This issue should be their real hot button because they believe that Bush is a man of ACTION and MAKING QUICK DECISIONS and TAKING CHARGE. Sock it to them that their emperor had no Flight Suit on because his mission was NOT accomplished.

That day is the perfect example of his wimpness and we need to make his lack of leadership on that day crystal clear. Put it in their face.

[freemarketer]

59. Will not matter and only make him look desperate. At a time when the

Democrats needed only a marginal candidate to beat the worst President in history, they offered up John Kerry, the worst Democratic candidate in history. It's ironic. God laughs.

[yelladawg]

61. We need fighters

It's time to take off the gloves

[freemarketer]

63. First, we need a candidate. .........................nft

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