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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 05:52 PM
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CBS Evening News: Burkett lied to 60 Minutes
Burkett apparently told CBS that he received the memos from a person, who, Burkett now admits, did not provide the documents to him.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 05:54 PM
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1. Thank you
for posting clearly what happened.

I missed the segment. And most of the other threads have been usless, in regards to having a clue as to what happened.

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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 05:56 PM
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2. The threads on this have been lame
could someone give a coherent recap please?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 05:59 PM
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3. Did he name the person he first said did, and now says didn't, give him...
...the memos?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:00 PM
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4. I kinda mislead you but not entirely mislead you and
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 06:01 PM by Feeney2
I got the papers from someone other than the people I said and CBS pressured me to disclose the names and I, well, felt pressured.


Does that clear it up?
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:00 PM
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5. So he never had the documents...
...which means he was the one who created them.?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:02 PM
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6. Who knows?
Either he was responsible for them or he didn't say who exactly he got them from.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:02 PM
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7. He claims he got them from someone else, CBS says they cannot verify it
Burkett claims he did not create, forge, or alter the docs.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:05 PM
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9. This is going nowhere.
...another unnamed source.

I'm through with this story.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:08 PM
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12. Thanks. I can usually wrap my head around these things if i have to...
but this one is done in my view. At least, until something really big happens.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:28 PM
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24. Based on your posts on this subject to date....
...you were "through with this story" before it even got started.
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Killer Poodle Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:03 PM
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8. Lets hope we can get back to discussing real issues now.
This has distracted the nation from the real issues for weeks. I hope the producer at CBS responsible for this blunder gets fired.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:06 PM
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10. Actually Rove and his little freepers are responsible
for this hoopla.

Rove is the one that needs to be fired.

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:09 PM
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13. I think Bush*'s credebility is an important "real" issue
The whole heart of what is being discussed is a very important "real" issue as far as I'm concerned. I think it is important that people understand the true "Character" of the man they want to be President. Sorry you don't feel that it's important. How about Gay marriage? Is that a real burning issue to you?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:06 PM
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11. Burkett's recent admission
that he deliberately lied to CBS about the source of the documents to protect the confidentiality of the true source raises more questions than it answers.

He identified the "fake" source to CBS originally as a former National Guard officer, but the statement from CBS fails to name who that particular officer was.

And Burkett is refusing to identify the true source of the documents he supposedly "obtained" from such source.

CBS is continuing its investigation into Burkett and the origin of these documents.

I say just let them do their job.

And continue to focus instead on the contents of these documents, which have been verified as true by Killian's secretary on the last "50 Minutes" interview with Dan Rather. Point out constantly that no one in the White House or the right-wing media has dared to challenge her testimony on the truth of the contents of the memos.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:19 PM
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15. Could the REAL source be ROVE?
Where we set up?
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:25 PM
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21. We'll never know...
.....Burkett is not revealing his source, that is if he has one.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:20 PM
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16. Bingo. FratBoy was AWOL at the very least while Vietnam was being fought.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:13 PM
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14. Forgery angle still just a rumor started on FR
with no credible evidence. All of Buckhead's objections were baseless, as has been proven on DailyKos.

The signatures are real. The secretary didn't type these, but typed ones very similar. Killian typed these himself as backups, in case the others got lost (which they did).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=841272
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:43 PM
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31. i'll vote for the Dem, Kerry thenkuverrrymuch
so as not to be associated as someone as .....you.

:nuke:

dp
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:02 PM
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34. And you have no proof they were forged!
Pull your head out! The fact that the secretary didn't type them doesn't make them forged. The signatures are not in dispute.What are they? And the content is verified. Prove they are forged. You can't and you have a better argument that they are real but still don't know who typed them.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:22 PM
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18. That's what I'm thinking, too.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:38 PM
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28. that's why it was a CYA file
Knox said the info was correct, but she didn't type them. The original ones she did type were 'disappeared' in the cleanup by Bartlett, et al. Killian had the foresight to have a backup.

Now, who had the backup?

there's your source.
dp
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:22 PM
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19. I feel reasonably certain
that Burkett is the one who forged the documents. The most telling sign is that in previous Internet posts, Burkett referred to an airman's bed as a billet. Billet is a Navy term and is not used by the Air Guard. The forged documents refer to an airman's bed as a billet. Further, the forged documents used the term "running interference" which Burkett also used in posts on the Internet. Burkett has changed his story about where the documents came from and no longer can name anybody who gave them to him. In previous Internet posts, Burkett suggested getting dirty against Bush. With all of this together, I feel reasonably certain that Burkett is the one who forged the documents.

Burkett was trying to help but he hurt. What's more, Max Cleland was getting the blame for this and Burkett just stood by. Now the vast right wing conspiracy and the White House are trying to pin the whole episode on Kerry or DNC operatives. The whole thing is going to drag out and keep attention away from better issues. Burkett should do the decent thing and admit he forged the documents.




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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:27 PM
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22. Ms. Killian indicated that the content of the document was true....
...do you agree with that, or do you believe that the whole story is false? If you believe the whole story was false then you also must believe FratBoy served honorably.

Is my assessment of your comments fair or have I missed something that you may have meant to say?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:30 PM
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25. Also his secretary indicated the content was very familiar in the office
was widely discussed, and that she, herself, had typed it in another report.

Also, the content was verified as highly recognizable by one of his male fellow officers in the last few days. He also indicted he had heard Killian discussing it.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:39 PM
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29. I believe that the story is true
I don't think there was any upside for the left with another Bush/AWOL story. It takes something really bad to pry votes from Bush, and there is plenty out there. All hell is breaking loose in Iraq. That should be the big story. This whole thing has been one big distraction and the RW loves it.

From your comments, I'm guessing you think I'm attacking somehow. I don't like Bush. I don't think he's served honorably, or done a single honorable thing in his whole life.

Please read my comments as an opinion which is factually and logically based and consider it on its merits.
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eduardito Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:00 PM
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33. Mrs. Killian
She DID NOT indicate that the content of the memos was true. She and her son were very clear that the contents of the docs did not match with anything that Killian said in their presence. You're also forgetting Hodges and Staudt who very clearly stated that the docs didn't reflect their views at all and that the docs appeared to be forged. Even Strong has admitted that he has no way of determining if the docs were true or not.
What is your source for the statement that Mrs. Killian thought the content was true??
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:27 PM
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23. This is the most plausible explanation, I think.
oh well.
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:36 PM
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27. You speak the truth Mr. Sneakers.
I have been saying for a while, that the Democrats and the media are being thrown off by a slight of hand of immense proportions.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:32 PM
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26. dupe
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