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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:02 PM
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Nader Off the Ballot in Ohio (NBC4 Columbus)
http://www.nbc4i.com/politics/3768194/detail.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Independent candidate Ralph Nader won't appear on Ohio's presidential ballot because forged signatures on petition forms and on petitions circulated by non-Ohioans left him short of the 5,000 required to qualify, Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell ruled Tuesday.

Democrats, who blame Nader's presence on the ballot in Florida in 2000 for costing Al Gore the election, said they were happy with Blackwell's ruling. Nader drew about 2.5 percent of the 2000 vote in Ohio, where George W. Bush beat Gore by 3.6 percentage points.

"Therefore, the Boards of Elections will be ordered to remove the Nader/Camejo joint candidacy from the presidential ballot or to otherwise notify voters that a vote cast for the Nader/Camejo candidacy will not be counted," Blackwell said in a release.
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HuuRaah!!
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:06 PM
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1. Holy. Crap.
My first reaction - right away: Blackwell is doing this to take some fire off of his @ss.

My second reaction: HELL YEAH!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:09 PM
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4. I was thinking the exact same thing.....
He was exposed for his partisan tricks which he thought would go under the radar........I'll take the call he made about Nader....that is his job......Thats what I expect.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:08 PM
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2. wow Forged Signatures.. wtf
That's got to be the GOP people trying to get him on the ballot.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 09:36 PM
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22. Wouldn't it be nice to prove collusion on the part of the GOP?
and Blackwell too?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:08 PM
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3. Ohio will go for Kerry
no sheningans will fuck them up.

Hawkeye-X
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:11 PM
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5. I've heard some very different poll results that the media pundits
spew....In Ohio...Kerry polls 4 to 1 *bush......
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:17 PM
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6. From your lips to God's ear
:hi:

LTNS!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:23 PM
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9. Now we got to watch the voting polls.....
on election day........I am not going to blink until November 3, 2004.

Oh, I got those poll results from a very, very reliable source today.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:22 PM
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8. Amusing note I heard on WTAM-1100 Cleveland
(a Clear Channel station) - in their 5pm news blip.

Clear channel poll (now how could that ever be biased?) had the basic results:

Bush - 50 percent
Kerry - 44 percent
undecided - 6 percent

(unscientific, I'd say; remember, this is a CLEAR CHANNEL poll! You would think - Bush - 90, Kerry -.02, undecided - 9.8).

THen they said "Northeast Ohio", different, Kerry ahead.

Things that make you go hmmmm . . .
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:24 PM
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10. Let them believe the crap.....
we are flying under the radar to victory!
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:19 PM
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7. Election fraud in Kucinich's homestate...NEVER!
eom
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:42 PM
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11. In the words of Nelson Muntz...
Ha Ha!

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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:48 PM
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12. What about absentee ballots?
How do people in Ohio correct their ballots if they voted for Nader?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:12 PM
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14. I don't think they can?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:50 PM
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13. holy shiite!!
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:16 PM
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15. Whats going on w. the Nader supporters?
It seems they really screwed up on this one.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:17 PM
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16. How many supporters can Nader have
if he couldn't collect 5,000 signatures?
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:54 PM
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18. It's not the Nader supporters who f'd it up.
It's the Bush* supporters who gleefully (and illegally) filled the petitions with names of dead people and shit they wrote down off mailboxes who f'd it up. If Nader had played it honest and hadn't asked (or at least, allowed) the Republicans to collect and submit bogus signatures for him, he might have gotten on the ballot.

Ironic, ain't it?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:51 PM
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17. Florida is on their 3rd flipflop..McCain demanded nader be on the ballot
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:20 PM
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19. He's innoculating himself to screw us over later.
I don't trust this guy, afterall he's a RepuKKKe.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 09:54 PM
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24. Could be.
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 09:55 PM by lizzy
Why is he saying Nader votes will not be counted? Since you can write in any candidate of your choice, even if the candidate is not on the ballot, and the votes are still supposed to be counted. Something is very fishy there.
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:26 PM
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20. Democracy Mandates That Every Votes Counts
"Therefore, the Boards of Elections will be ordered to remove the Nader/Camejo joint candidacy from the presidential ballot or to otherwise notify voters that a vote cast for the Nader/Camejo candidacy will not be counted," Blackwell said in a release.

AND, if the voters are not adequately notified; the responsibility is in Ohio's Boards of Elections! Would any good patriotic "Buckeye" supporting the US Constitution really accept this negation of their vote due to a balloting system, that certainly, has been long cited as being below any standard that our Founding Fathers would have imagined?

TO NEGATE A VOTE WITHOUT DUE PROCESS TO CORRECT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEES IS A BLASPHEMY OF THE "SPIRIT" OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS! AND, THAT IS "NOT" DEMOCRACY!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 09:42 PM
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23. Well, it is kind of strange.
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 09:52 PM by lizzy

Because I think they are supposed to count even write in votes.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:30 PM
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21. Too bad, ralphie...
you Catastrophic FUCKUP!
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:11 PM
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25. Good news, if the ruling holds up.
The neocons have done it before, they can sure as hell steal an elecion again.
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