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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 09:25 PM
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Inmates' abortions an issue for sheriff
Inmates' abortions an issue for sheriff

October 16, 2004

PHOENIX – The Maricopa County sheriff says he shouldn't have to transport pregnant inmates to abortion clinics, a policy that has drawn a court challenge from the American Civil Liberties Union.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio, an abortion rights opponent, only lets deputies ferry inmates when the trip is medically necessary, and abortions don't fall in that category, he said. He's only allowed such trips when inmates have court orders.

"I don't run a taxi service from jail to an abortion clinic and back," said Arpaio, who gained notoriety for putting inmates on chain gangs and issuing them striped uniforms and pink underwear.

The ACLU of Arizona said abortion is a constitutional right that doesn't disappear when a woman is sent to jail. Inmates may have to wait weeks to get a court order, they said. No trial date on the ACLU suit has been set.

Of the 1,000 women in county jail, about 45 are pregnant.

Associated Press


Find this article at:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041016/news_1n16region.html


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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 09:26 PM
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1. This guy is a fucking knuckledragging asshole
JEEZ Arizona! Once you turn AZ blue could you dump this fucking tyrant?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:09 PM
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7. we're trying NSMA trust me n/t
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:58 PM
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11. He's a Nazi Like Amon Goeth
Amon Goeth
Goeth is marked in the film, as well as in history, as one who finds causes for anger everywhere he looks. When he first arrives in the Plasz¢w work camp, it is under construction. A Jewish woman is the engineer, and she advises Goeth that he needs to re-pour a foundation. For this act, Goeth has her summarily executed (figure 5). When Goeth is displeased with the number of hinges that Rabbi Levartov has made in a morning, he tries to shoot the Rabbi, only to have two guns jam, increasing his anger even more (figure 6). He shoots a woman for stopping to tie her shoe, a man for refusing to report who had tried to smuggle a chicken into camp. Ralph Fiennes plays a chilling Amon Goeth in the movie, and plays him to the point that some people have had trouble distinguishing him from the real thing.

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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 09:31 PM
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2. Does this tyrant impregnate these women?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 09:35 PM
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3. This Man Is Essentially Breaking The Law Himself
I hope he ends up in Jail..
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 09:36 PM
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4. any children born because
Mr. Arpaio doesn't want to be "a taxi service" should be entitled to his financial support until they graduate from college. People who want to take responsibility for a woman's reproduction should be held responsible for any children that comes from that.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:38 PM
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10. *HE* should financially support them
Himself, out of his own money.

And he should be personally responsible for raising each one to adulthood.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 09:38 PM
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5. It's a wonder that the ACLU isn't corrupted yet
It is the final guardian of our rights. What would we do if we had to rely only on officials or the courts or the press or the even Constitution, without this powerful advocate?

Why hasn't the ACLU been infiltrated? It certainly would be a prime target.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:06 PM
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6. It's About Controlling Women's Bodies
that's it, plain and simple.

On the surface, his arguement about a taxi service is logical, but does his jail have a full service maternity clinic? If not, and a woman carries to term he is going to be ferrying them back and forth anyway.

He doesn't have the gumption to say what he really thinks that women who are prisoners have no rights, even to decide what to do with their bodies. Does that mean we can use prisoners for medical experiments too?
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:18 PM
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8. "Senseless Killings, Flagrant Abuse of Police Power, Willful Disregard of
"Senseless Killings, Flagrant Abuse of Police Power, Willful Disregard of Prisoners' Rights" - A Look at Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio

JOHN DOUGHERTY:The most famous thing is he known for is tent city. He created a big jail holding camp out in the desert where he packs in 30 people to a tent, and this is where people serve their terms instead of in a jail or a secure facility. They're in tents. The Arizona Court of Appeals has found that these tent conditions are extremely dangerous; and in fact, they held Arpaio liable -- personally liable -- on a lawsuit a couple of months ago where a guy was beaten into a coma with a tent stake, an inmate. So he creates -- this is a great prop. ‘I'm going to pack everybody in tent city. I’m going to save everybody a lot of money.’ But what in fact he does is end up costing us millions and millions of dollars in lawsuits because people are beaten or killed inside these facilities that are completely insecure. And you got a problem with that aspect of it. There's also been use of what he calls a restraint chair. We’ve had people killed in the restraint chairs inside the jail.

JOHN DOUGHERTY:Most certainly. This was the best chance to beat him, was in the Republican Primary. Republicans have 100,000 voter edge in Maricopa County. It's going to be extremely unlikely that the Democrat – and it's a three-way race, there's an independent running as well -- will defeat Joe Arpaio. He’s going to stay there for another four years. He's 72 years old and he’s already said he wants to run again, four years from now to continue his reign. It's interesting the things that I have been coming up with the last couple of months that have raised some serious questions in my mind is that the same time he’s been doing this, he also has a policy in which they serve rotten food, stale food. He's able to brag to the public, ‘Hey, we’re sellin’ food -- we feed prisoners for, I don’t know, twenty cents a day.’ Something like that, ridiculous. And it literally is rotten. But at the same time he operates a commissary in there and a series of vending machines, and he allows inmates to purchase these better food off there. We’ve been seeking now for three months the financial records that are associated with the commissary and the vending machines in there. I'm talking millions and millions of dollars rolling through these things. They’ve refused to do that. We have now filed suit with Maricopa county against the sheriff's office to obtain these public records. At the same time, this guy has accumulated more than $2 million worth of real estate. It's very interesting. How is he getting all of this real estate? We have asked him to present his real estate records. Those are sealed as well.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/28/1427243&mode=thread&tid=25

What else would one expect. Just wait for the day that he is on the other side.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:26 PM
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9. How can his real estate holdings be private?
Those are public records!
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