Zarqawi Group Claims Killing of 50 Iraqis

[NVMojo]

BAGHDAD, Iraq - In their boldest and deadliest attack yet, insurgents waylaid three minibuses carrying U.S.-trained Iraqi soldiers heading home on leave and massacred about 50 of them — forcing many to lie down on the ground and shooting them in the head, officials said Sunday. Some accounts by police said the rebels were dressed in Iraqi military uniforms.

A claim of responsibility posted on an Islamist Web site attributed the attack to followers of Jordanian-born terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.


The killing of so many Iraqi soldiers — unarmed and in civilian clothes — in such an apparently sure-footed operation reinforced American and Iraqi suspicions that the country's security services have been infiltrated by insurgents.


Elsewhere, a U.S. diplomat was killed Sunday morning when a rebel-fired rocket or mortar shell crashed into the trailer where he was sleeping at an American base near the Baghdad airport, the U.S. Embassy announced.


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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20041024/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

[leftchick]

1. ... and * and cheney claim.....

saddam did 9/11... :eyes:

[NVMojo]

2. good point!!!

[Dancing_Dave]

3. BULL SHIT!

All the "news" of al-Zarqawi reeks of bogus official propaganda.

There is no evidence that he is in Falluja, or that he is in Iraq or even that he is still alive. He is just a convenient pretext for occupation attacks.

Anyone can put up a bogus "Islamist" site for propaganda purposes.

[NVMojo]

4. is this leading to the October Surprise??

a stage setting??

[Dancing_Dave]

5. Those treacherous repuke tricksters

are sure to try something underhanded before the election!

[Ohio rules]

8. Or setting up Iran ?

An investigation could point in two directions.

This is from an al jazeera article;
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Iraqi interior ministry spokesman Adnan Abd al-Rahman said the troops were believed to have been killed at around sunset on Saturday on a road about 150km northeast of Baghdad near the Iranian border.

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General Walid al-Azzawi, commander of the Diyala provincial police, said they were all members of the new Iraqi army, and were training in the Kirkush military camp in Baladruz.

He said they were probably returning home for leave since many were from the southern provinces. An investigation is underway, al-Azzawi added.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/05F121E5-0EBD-4B71-931A-A0AC04F681EA.htm

Blaim could be put on the minority Sunni's or border crossers from Iran.

[DulceDecorum]

11. Did They Do It For Allah or The Monkey?

So in essence, the real “cause” of the terrorists in Beslan wasn’t because they necessarily believed in what they were doing, it wasn’t for freedom from oppression and it wasn’t for Allah. It may have been simply for the monkey on their back.


http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/

[DulceDecorum]

17. The Zarkawi -- PNAC link

A ‘Star’ is Born
Zarqawi suddenly had a global starring role, so he had to live up to it. Al-Tawhid wal-Jihad was organized in early 2004. It has since claimed responsibility for the beheading of Berg in May and Americans Eugene Armstrong and Jack Hensley in September and and Briton Ken Bigley in October. Tawhid’s videos feature masked, armed militants, either with the voice over explaining how “Zarqawi” is beheading yet one more American infidel or the captions announcing the capture of yet more hostages.
This “film” career ran parallel to his emergence as a fiery ideologue. That’s the thrust of the exceedingly suspect email allegedly found by the US Army in a raid of “an al-Qaeda safe house” in Baghdad in early 2004. In that email - which immediately showed up at the website of the ultra right-wing Project For a New American Century - Zarqawi allegedly writes to bin Laden asking for his help in detonating a civil war between Sunnis and Shi’ites in Iraq.
The email - good timing - was found exactly at a juncture when the Bush administration could not disguise any more the lack of evidence linking Saddam and al-Qaeda.
http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_comments/922_0_15_0_C/

PNAC MEMO:
February 12, 2004
We have obtained a copy of the following letter purportedly written to senior al Qaeda leaders from Abu Mus'ab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian terrorist believed to be operating in Iraq. The existence of this letter, captured in a raid on a safe house in Baghdad on January 23, 2004, was first reported in the New York Times on February 10.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/middleeast-20040212.htm
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqmiddleeast.htm

[acmavm]

6. Someone needs to ask bush* & Cheney to 'prove' that this dispicable

act was the work of Zaqahiri. Someone needs to prove that he and Osama are alive and well and thumbing their noses at bush* and Cheney.

This is the fault of the bush* administration, they were told that this would happen. Someone should ask them if they feel and guilt or remorse at all for what they did to the Iraqi people.

[Aidoneus]

7. Zawahiri =/= Zarqa`wi..

:shrug:

[savistocate]

9. Three times in past military had his whereabouts

though -case for attacking Zarqawi operation was airtight.
http://www.msnbc/msn.com/id/4431601. As many Americans know, yet Bushies keep naming Z------'s operations.

[Kimber Scott]

10. Who cares who did it? I doubt the US did it, but it's sure F'd up that it

happened. The US probably chould have prevented it, by arming these guys, but I don't see where building up some fake boogy-man is needed when there are 50 people, on their way home to see their families, executed in the middle of the desert. There is a real boogy-man out there. Who gives a fuck what his name is?

What are you an al-Zarqawi apologist, or something?

[DulceDecorum]

13. RE: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's website

September 28, 2004
Zarqawi Website Hacked Again
UPDATE 9:49 AM EDT: Website back up!! That didn't take long.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's website has been hacked again and My Pet Jawa may be partially to blame. I broke the original story that Zarqawi's original site was hacked by 'TeAmZ USA' on Aug. 22. Later, the website was restored to service before the webhost, a company operating out of Houston, took the website down permanently. However, Zarqawi's group kept a backup site on the same server which eventually became the group's main propaganda arm. That site, until this morning, was used to distribute beheading videos, recruitment messages, issue fatwas and other propaganda. Recently, the site has been used to distribute a taped message by British hostage Kenneth Bigley pleading for his life.
<snip>

Recently, though, I discontinued the practice of giving out his URL. My decision was based on two factors. First, the volume of requests. I could no longer respond to individual e-mails requesting Zarqawi's website address. Second, and more important, I received an e-mail message from a reader who was outraged by what he saw on the Zarqawi website. In fact, he was so outraged that he decided to give the webhost a call and complain.

Eventually, the company responded and said that they were aware of Zarqawi's website on their host and had had numerous complaints. But they reassured my reader with this cryptic message, that "PEOPLE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL HAD ASKED THEM TO KEEP THE WEBSITE UP." I, and my reader, took that to mean that intelligence services were using the website to track down Zarqawi's physical location, something a number of commenters and fellow bloggers (see trackbacks to my original post) warned me of.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/047746.php

There is a real boogy-man out there.
Who gives a fuck what his name is?
Kimber Scott,
SOME OF US HERE WANT TO WHO BENEFITS
FROM KEEPING THAT WEBSITE UP.

[Kimber Scott]

19. This has nothing to do with us "making" the US prove Zarqawi did it

as the post I was responding to stated. Why should the US have to PROVE it HE did it? And, why does the US need to put a name on it? Do they think if we call it an evil deed by the "Number-one mastermind terrorist" is makes it any different than if they say someone in the "resistance" did it. It's still 50 dead guys caused by the fucked up mess this administration created. Whether it's a single boogy man, or the entire resistance movement, (of which the boogy man is a part), it matters not to me -IRAQ IS A FUCKING MESS - and I don't see how MAKING the administration prove it was Zarqawi is going to make it any better.

As for the administration being complicit in the beheadings, or any other Zarqawi evil scheme - I don't believe it for a minute. They're trying to make themselves look good, not bad. The beheadings boil down to the simple fact Iraqis have no work and foreign labor is coming in and making exhorbitant salaries while the Nationals starve. So, the administration may be causing the beheadings by not responding to the needs of the Iraqi people, but they are not, in my opinion, implicitly complicit. They're stupid, but not that stupid. What would they gain? Everytime someone is slaughtered Bush's numbers eek, ever so slowly, downward.

You think somebody high up might want that site to stay up as the only link to the perpetrators that exists? Maybe, they're hoping they'll get a break. Maybe, they think these guys might post something that might help them find these bastards? It's a thought...

[CHICKEN CAPITOL USA]

14. you're right-a real boogy man- called the resistance

it's not one guy or 2 or 3-
The country is a hydra head full of everything from average resistance to organized terror groups. I heard the interview on Bernie Ward the other night with the author who has been there for some time(forgot his name)-
The place is a mess and it is not just one group or one guy responsible.

[acmavm]

18. Of course not. I'm making the simple point that we don't even know if

that guy is alive. And that it's pretty damn convenient to pin everything on a phantom. I would think that there are plenty of other players in the mayhem called Iraq that might have had a hand in something like this.

Having just one big bad boogey man named Zaqahiri makes it so convenient for the bush* administration. They have this one big bad dude that's responsible for all of the killings. And if only one guy is responsible, well then hell, the Iraqi on the street isn't fighting us, just the followers of this invisible man. So they can imply that it's only the followers of this one 'evil doer' that we have to contend with, not maybe tens of thousands of Iraqis who just might object that we bombed their country, killed their families, destroyed their infrastructure, all so george could help out his friends.

It's like when you catch a little kid at something, what do they ususally say? (Insert name here) made me do it. Put the blame where it belongs. If the Iraqis wanted us there, there wouldn't be so much killing and chaos. bush* and his incompetent cabal screwed up big time, that's what the problem really is.

And truthfully, I don't really think I believe that the death in destruction is all the work of one man.

You insulted me by asking if I was a Zaqahiri apologist. I had a question for you, but I'm sure my ass would be banned if I asked it.

[Kimber Scott]

20. Sorry for asking if you were an apologist. I was just upset about the

whole thing and sometimes it seems people here get excited when things go so wrong in Iraq. I know it's politically helpful for bad things to happen under Bush's "leadership," but Jesus Christ, it's getting so far out of hand. It's like telling a kid, "I told you you'd get burned if you played with matches." But, when the house goes up in flames you can't say that anymore, you just have to start working on putting out the fire.

Not to say you do any of this. It was frustration talking when I asked that question. So, again, I apologize.

[acmavm]

21. Okay, it's cool. I, like you, can't believe that humans would do this to

their fellow man. But again, they wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't for the bush* administration.

What makes me sick is they were told, before Operation Enduring Freedom (fucking stupid name for a massacre of innocent people) that this kind of crap would happen. So since they now found themselves in a corner because all of the bad stuff that was predicted has happened, they have one big bad boogey man who they blame everything on. I won't be surprised to hear tomorrow that the bush* administration says Zaqahiri carried all 350 tons of those missing explosives out of where they were stored on his camel all by himself to an undisclosed hiding place. Condi will probably be the one to make the announcement.

Having a guy like Zaq to blame for everything is very convenient for the bush* bots. It disguises the fact that there is a wide-spread resistance all across the country to the occupation. And that is dangerously misleading. Western countries have tried to control this part of the Middle East before, and the people rose up and drove them out. This is the lesson that people need to learn, this was a no-win situation from the get-go. And it not just is one guy and his gang of evil doers who are fighting us, it's the people of Iraq. And they will until we leave their country.

[alcuno]

12. What makes me sick is that no US soldier would be off base w/out a weapon.

And yet we expect those poor Iraqis, many who join because there are no jobs, to travel around in mini-vans with no protection and no weapons.

[leesa]

15. Goldstein strikes again! And we've always been at war with

Eurasia. Do you think this was the dead Zarqawi or a living one?

[DulceDecorum]

16. This particular Zarqawi was cloned

from the leg that was amputated in Baghdad a couple years ago.

And just how many legs does Zarqawi have anyway? We're going to have to get back to you on that, but we can definitively state the answer is no more than three and no less than zero. Probably.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/abu-musab-al-zarqawi/