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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:40 AM
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My oped on religiousradicalrightism
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Jim Bates (Globe, July 20) states that "Satan is trying to take over America" and is being aided by liberals. Why do you almost never hear similar rhetoric coming from progressives and liberals? I want to suggest that this may be true because, while most progressives are religious and Christian, they are not religious fanatics who believe God is on their side while the rest of the world's people are infidels.

Jesus, who was more apt to associate with sinners than hypocrites, practiced what he preached. He associated with the prostitute and tax collector, not because he supported their lifestyle, but because of the simple belief that we ought to love our neighbor before we follow the finger-pointers to the land of arrogance and ego.

Jesus taught those who don't read the Bible selectively that prayer ought to be done in private, not public (Matthew 6:5-8). The Constitution allows for public prayer, while Jesus does not. How ironic it is that conservatives wail away about the Constitution banning public prayer (even though it only bans government from directing it) while Jesus clearly prohibits it. Might I suggest that we do more reading in both the Bible and the Constitution and limit our proclamations of moral superiority?

http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=199389&c=96
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:51 AM
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1. Well done!
I think you said it rather well. If everyone would follow the teachings of prophets like Jesus-tolerance, helping the poor, forgiving, etc-the world would be a better place.
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:56 AM
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2. Wow, in SW missouri, no less
It'll be interesting to see the retorts in the next paper.

I read the other letters while I was there -- another letter writer pointed out the absurdity of the premises for war in Iraq --woo hoo!

I have to admit my favorite letter was from the writer who was upset by someone's quote: "there was nothing civil about the Civil War." They said saying such things would only confuse people (???), and felt compelled to list all the meanings of "civil" from Webster's Dictionary to un-confuse folks, I guess. What a chucklehead.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:46 AM
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13. No response yet, we will see.
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:56 AM
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3. Great Op-ed. I like `em short and to the point. Voted!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:04 AM
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4. I wonder what finger these so-called "Christians" are
using when they point at the rest of us. We are held hostage by people who only want power to tell the country what should be done.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:06 AM
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5. Most excellent!
Very well stated and to the point like the truest of arrows. :thumbsup:
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1democracy Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:26 AM
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6. Judgmentalism is the problem
The difficulty in dealing with fundamentalists is that they try to "save" the rest of us. That insults my intelligence as a human being and my own right to " life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Judgmentalism is at the heart of the matter and the Bible says "Judge not lest ye be judged" and "Take the mote out of your own eye" before you judge someone else (that is, that he who is without sin throw the first stone).
In a free society, we all have the right to make our own decisions, our own mistakes. A mistake in your eyes may be the right decision in my own. That is why a strict separation of church and state, along with a right to privacy, is essential for a free society.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:23 PM
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10. kick and welcome to DU
:kick:
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:58 PM
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11. Now for this to be uttered....
By a canidate from the podium at the Democratic convention. A lesson for the masses with the example of edicts from politicians here and a comparison to Iran's Mullahs and the Pugs will have a hard time using religion for politcal gain. But alas to find a canidate with the guts to say it.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:29 AM
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7. Excellent!
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:14 AM
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8. Excellent!
Way to go.
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:50 AM
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9. wow -good to know you-powerful stuff
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 10:56 AM by jarnocan
Far right fanatics often use absolutes, and often repeat lies. Being honest is more difficult because -we care about being fair.
Our ends do NOT always justify our means.
the spew on cue crew tatics trickle down- freepers for example :puke:

43,200 severely injured/disabled soldiers- NOW according to MSNBC just heard.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:11 PM
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12. Thanks for the good comments guys, I really think this is the way
to take them on. We damn well have the upper hand on religion we just need to express it.
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