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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:45 PM
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A Costly Education for America - Watching neocons spin the collapse...
A Costly Education for America
Watching neocons spin the collapse of "the Bush doctrine"
by Chris Moore

In a desperate 11th-hour bid to save face and salvage credibility amid the violent collapse of their predictions of a "cakewalk" victory over Iraq, neoconservative opinionmakers appear to be preparing to spin America's likely troop drawdown as just another stage in the fulfillment of their larger plans for the region.

"In Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and elsewhere in the Arab world, the forces of democratic liberalization have emerged on the political stage in a way that was unimaginable just two years ago," Washington Post syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer, perhaps the most widely read neocon pundit, recently wrote on The Wall Street Journal editorial page. "They have been energized and emboldened by the Iraqi example and by American resolve."

Krauthammer's determined ignorance of an Iraq on the cusp of civil war follows the declaration by Karl Zinsmeister, the editor-in-chief of the neoconservative The American Enterprise magazine, that "the war is over, and we won."

"What the establishment media covering Iraq have utterly failed to make clear today is this central reality: With the exception of periodic flare-ups in isolated corners, our struggle in Iraq as warfare is over," Zinsmeister wrote in June. "Contrary to the impression given by most newspaper headlines, the United States has won the day in Iraq."

Backing their claims of victory with few relevant facts, Zinsmeister, Krauthammer, and other neoconservative pundits appear to be attempting to use their platforms to counter reporting that indicates the situation in Iraq is deteriorating for the American occupiers. One such article published July 27 by United Press International was titled "U.S. Plans Iraq Troop Cuts as Revolt Rages."

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http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cmoore.php?articleid=6808


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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:10 PM
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1. The American people can believe...
these asshats, at their peril.

The world sees right through the BushCo/neocon shit distillery, but will Americans ever wake up and smell the poop?
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:39 PM
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5. There's nobody reporting the smell of that poop.
Well, there are some people, but if you are a typical American who gets news from a 1/2 hour network news program every evening, you aren't going to see much actual poop. Just fluff pieces.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:35 PM
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2. if it means that they get th fuck out of Iraq
then I am fine with them declaring victory on the way out. Whatever.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:52 PM
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3. yabbut
the omnipotenti is building bases in iraq for permanent police presence, they will forever bar non pigmedia from reporting the state of affirs, and they will use the fx military junk to hammer away at civilians exposed in iraq, a sorta neverending warcrime which is so awful no one can ever officially admit it exists.
it's called blackmail, and the people blackmailed are the american people, with the iraqis the hostages
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:30 PM
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4. yes by out I really meant "out"
I don't believe a word of it so far. I think that they are proceeding full speed with the permanent military bases and that they have no intention of actually leaving. Why would they? So far they are right on plan.

On the other hand, if they did REALLY get out, great.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:00 PM
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6. yes....
i don't think they really have any fixed notion, permanent bases or no....the busheviks are cheap crooks, working from scams no different then what villains plot up in their basement lairs, and with the same kinda shifty eyed sincereity in every face....bush is proof a free press isn't just a luxury, it's a necessity to a democratic society
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