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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:57 PM
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Former CIA man says Bush not happy over new terror language
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Former_CIA_man_says_Bush_not_happy_over_new_terror_la_0802.html

Bush critic Larry Johnson, who served as a Deputy Director in the U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism from 1989 to 1993, tells RAW STORY the intelligence community is 'abuzz' after President Bush purportedly said he was not happy about changing the Administration's terminology on terror.

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Bush reportedly said he was not in favor of the new term, Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism (GSAVE). In fact, he said, "no one checked with me". That comment brought an uncomfortable silence to the assembled group of pooh bahs. The President insisted it was still a war as far as he is concerned.

The battle over language and the confusion within the National Security Council is an unfortunate reminder of the chaos that is afflicting the Bush Administration's effort to deal with terrorism. Unfortunately, every agency and department is doing its own thing without strong, clear direction or control from the White House. Makes longtime bureaucrats long for the days of Richard Clarke, when at least there was someone in charge.

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:58 PM
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1. ROFLMAO!!!
No one told little George! Poor Georgie. Go play your Gameboy and maybe they'll give you a fudgesickle if you're good. BRAT.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:58 PM
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2. No war = no wartime prizdent, no wartime special powers ...
This jerk doesn't know how NOT to be at war with someone (ask KKKarl).
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:00 PM
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5. He's our struggle-time preznit now. (n/t)
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:19 PM
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15. and what does JIHAD translate to in english,yes its STRUGGLE n/t
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:00 PM
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27. "But, but, but...so does "Kampf", Tom struggled...
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:24 PM
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16. struggling president
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:20 PM
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24. Everytime I hear him say, "I'm a war time president..."
I get sick to my stomach. What a fucking phony.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:59 PM
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3. If it's not a war, he can't play Commander in Chief. n/t
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:59 PM
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4. I don't believe that I have ever seen...
...a man WANT to be a "WAR PRESIDENT" as much as this little dictator wannabe!
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:24 PM
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18. He a war and peace flip/flopper in chief....
""The enemy declared war on us," he told a re-election rally. "Nobody wants to be the war president. I want to be the peace president.""

Previously he said:

""I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war on my mind,""

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/21/1090089197575.html?oneclick=true
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:01 PM
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6. I can picture his temper tantrum
"I WANT MY WAR! I WANT MY WAR! GIMME MY WAR BACK!"
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:10 PM
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13. tantrum
we already saw his tantrum before Iraq when he went to the UN. They said 'no war' and he said 'fuck you! I'm going to war anyway!' He acted just like a little kid who didn't get his way!!
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:02 PM
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7. He's like a freakin' 4 year old
Such a whiner.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:02 PM
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8. "...still a war as far as he is concerned," as if he knows war
Then time for you to go over the top little boy george
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:02 PM
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9. Ha! I thought it was a good thing.
Seriously. Bush declared war a vague mathod, and abbreviated it as a war on an emotion: "The War on Terror". Now there's people here that think the new name indicates an expanded front, but I'm not so sure. I think its possible that people that some people just looked around and realized that the current situation isn't going to be "won" with military action. There is no military response to what happened in London, for example. In addition to that, violent extremism has more of a definable meaning than "terror". A) Its violent, B)Its out of the mainstream consensus thought. I for one think the change might be a good thing.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:55 PM
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25. yeah -- it's hard to force an abstract noun to surrender ...
Maybe people in the administration are finally realizing this.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:06 PM
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10. No longer a "war-time president"...
...he's now just a "struggling president"...
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:07 PM
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11. How about this...
Fight
Against
Real bad
Terrorists
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:07 PM
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12. No one checked with him?
Why did he take until now to figure it out?
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:42 PM
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30. Gee, George, you never checked with us, about, well, anything. So, y'know
tough shit, you whiny little bitch. Be thankful that that's the least of your fucking problems. That and hitting one too many sandtraps during your six-week vacation, you waste of skin.
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:10 PM
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14. Nobody tells me anything. Hey, I'm the boss here - I'm in charge
Waaaaaahh:cry:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:24 PM
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17. hello jon Stewart, are you there ? n/t
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:29 PM
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19. He was out riding the Presidential tricycle when they decided to
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 06:29 PM by bunny planet
change the lingo. Poor Jr., out of the loop again.
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CelticWinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:39 PM
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20. Talk about having a shit-fit
he better go wipe :evilgrin:
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:41 PM
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21. Globul Struggul Aginst Violunt Streemists
I don't see what the problem is. It translates into Drawl. Maybe, there are just too many words for him.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:43 PM
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22. Maybe they couldn't fit it in between his workouts.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:45 PM
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23. Read Dear Leader's daily thought about this kerfuffle...
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:17 PM
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26. He should love the term.
With his God complex, he could spin it as "GSAVE = GeorgeSAVEstheworld"!
:sarcasm:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:51 PM
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28. "Boo hoo. I'm taking my toys and goin' home"
"And I'm tellin' Barbara"
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:54 PM
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29. He's pissed cause he can't say this w/o tripping.
Global Struggle Against Violent Extremism. It's like Rove is setting him up to look like an idiot.

Gyre
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 04:32 AM
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31. Sad b/c he can no longer say...
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:24 PM
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32. These idiots can't even get their terms right...
much less fight a fucking War!
:grr:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:06 PM
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33. So sad. So very sad.
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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 09:48 AM
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34. This has me concerned.
This is an indication to me that shrub still thinks he can prevail against the global terrorism thing through traditional military war. I think he still wants to invade Iran which could be disastrous. I use the word traditional because I don't think he would rule out the use of nuclear weapons. It is apparent that there are people in the *administration who view the war in Iraq as a mistake and see that defining it in a way that can be judged as winning or losing is at least bad for politics. Wars have an ending; Struggles can be continuous.
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