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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:37 AM
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"The World is Round" (John Gray reviews Friedman, NYRB)
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18154

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Rising nationalism is part of the process of globalization, and so too are intensifying geopolitical rivalries. Just as it did when the Great Game was played out in the decades leading up to the First World War, ongoing industrialization is setting off a scramble for natural resources. The US, Russia, China, India, Japan, and the countries of the European Union are all of them involved in attempts to secure energy supplies, and their field of competition ranges from Central Asia through the Persian Gulf to Africa and parts of Latin America. The coming century could be marked by recurrent resource wars, as the great powers struggle for control of the planet's hydrocarbons.<3>

Moreover, worldwide industrialization appears to be coming up against serious environmental limits. An increasing number of expert observers believe global oil reserves may be peaking,<4> and there is a consensus among climate scientists that the worldwide shift to an energy-intensive industrial lifestyle is contributing to global warming. If these fears are well founded the next phase of globalization could encompass upheavals as large as any in the twentieth century.
. . .
As it has done in the past, globalization is throwing up dilemmas that have no satisfactory solution. That does not mean they cannot be more or less intelligently managed, but what is needed is the opposite of the utopian imagination. In a curious twist, the utopian mind has migrated from left to right, and from the academy to the airport bookshop. In the nineteenth century it was political activists and radical social theorists such as Marx who held out the promise that new technology was creating a new world. Today some business gurus have a similar message. There are many books announcing a global economic transformation and suggesting that governments can be reengineered to adapt to it in much the same way as corporations. The World Is Flat is an outstanding example of this genre.

Unfortunately the problems of globalization are more intractable than those of corporate life. States cannot be phased out like bankrupt firms, and large shifts in wealth and power tend to be fiercely contested. Globalization is a revolutionary change, but it is also a continuation of the conflicts of the past. In some important respects it is leveling the playing field, as Friedman's Indian interlocutor noted, and to that extent it is a force for human advance. At the same time it is inflaming nationalist and religious passions and triggering a struggle for natural resources. In Friedman's sub-Marxian, neoliberal worldview these conflicts are recognized only as forms of friction —grit in the workings of an unstoppable machine. In truth they are integral to the process itself, whose future course cannot be known. We would be better off accepting this fact, and doing what we can to cope with it.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:10 AM
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1. The 'flatness'
Friedman was referring to is a circuit board, and the seesawing of globalism and tribalism occurring now was predicted by Toffler many years ago.

Capitalism itself is a dying system, as is socialism, but that doesn't change the basics of globalization. We will eventually have a new economic system to encompass the new reality.

Reviewers sometimes get carried away in their rush to trash an author whose politics they don't like.

They would be better off paying attention to the overall message.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:18 PM
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6. In Friedman's case, it's not a problem
Nor is it a problem for a LOT of the authors whose politics most of us here don't like: WE DON'T LIKE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE WRONG AND HARMFUL.

We further don't like them because most of their beliefs and ideas aren't worth shit, and Friedman is a perfect example. OR, whatever ideas he does have that might have some feeble validity are so vastly outweighed by all the shit he shovels, that it's not worth the trouble.
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:25 PM
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7. Unfortunately, man does not live by the circuit board alone
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 06:31 PM by fedsron2us
but also requires water, food, fuel and a host of other raw materials. These items are not equally distributed across the planet and, whilst they can be traded, it is never going to be possible to move the location of oil fields or grain production in the same way as it is to shift industries that manufacture electronic goods or handle information for the service sector. Since some states have access to these resources and others do not the possibilities for conflict are ever present. Although I think capitalism is a dying system I have no idea what, apart from socialism, is likely to replace it. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the alternatives.

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:22 PM
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8. I will gladly grant that this "freight train" that we keep being told
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 07:23 PM by swag
about is heading toward us, but Friedman is not the first, not the only, and certainly not the most astute writer to tell us about it.

In fact the reviewer to whom you offer advice has himself written more incisively about the ramifications of globalization than Friedman, who was, we must not forget, a leading cheerleader for the US invasion of Iraq (though he is now backing off his enthusiasm with weird verbal spasms that can best be paraphrased as "Tom Friedman could have done a better job with the Iraq invasion," spasms possibly owing to a situational narcissism the ersatz journalist acquired on his book tours for the equally dreary The Lexus and the Olive Tree), with his infantile metaphors and "gee whiz" enthusiasms, seems capable of.

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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:30 AM
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2. I can't buy Friedman's flat earth garble


I saw/heard him on c-span when he spoke to the Govs. at their meeting.

he kept conflicting his own beliefs.

he would tell his stories and I'd say Ok but then he spoke peculiarly about the moral of his story.

guess a better way to put it is: some of the time he made sense and the other part of the time he didn't.

I couldn't make out his flat earth position.

finally I came to the conclusion he was full of crap.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:33 AM
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3. Well he's not
He's warning America about the freight train coming towards it.

Not his fault if you refuse to listen. It's only your job and your economy at stake.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:59 PM
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4. guess we disagree on what kind of freight train is coming


nt
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:52 PM
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11. Yes he is. EOM
Edited on Tue Aug-09-05 02:53 PM by K-W
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:14 PM
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5. globalization is just world conquest by multinational .com's
It's every bit as reprehensible as Hitler's world conquest plans and probably far worse in its impact on humanity.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:54 PM
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12. It is certainly much more successful. EOM
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:24 PM
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9. Globalisation is an Anomaly and Its Time is Running Out
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:41 PM
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10. Nice article.
Hate to be so dystopian, but you have seen that point where the mold has covered the orange and has eaten most of the inside of the orange and the orange finally implodes in an atmosphere of the mold's own foul gases?

Well, that's we're we (the mold) are with our orange (earth).

Happy Tuesday!
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 04:49 PM
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13. I just finished this article on the can this a.m. and it's very solid,
like so much else in NYRB, one of the few subscriptions I bother to renew constantly.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 04:53 PM
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14. And there's a weird correspondence with conservatives like Francis
Fukyama (sp?) who claim we're at the end of history and democracy has prevailed.

A sanguine belief in forces that will eventuate in a frictionless universe without our active intervention.
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