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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:01 PM
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Cindy Sheehan (Huff Post): This is George Bush’s Accountability Moment

From The Huffington Post
Dated Thursday August 11


This is George Bush’s Accountability Moment
By Cindy Sheehan



This is George Bush’s accountability moment. That’s why I’m here. The mainstream media aren’t holding him accountable. Neither is Congress. So I’m not leaving Crawford until he’s held accountable. It’s ironic, given the attacks leveled at me recently, how some in the media are so quick to scrutinize -- and distort -- the words and actions of a grieving mother but not the words and actions of the president of the United States.

But now it’s time for him to level with me and with the American people. I think that’s why there’s been such an outpouring of support. This is giving the 61 percent of Americans who feel that the war is wrong something to do -- something that allows their voices to be heard. It’s a way for them to stand up and show that they DO want our troops home, and that they know this war IS a mistake… a mistake they want to see corrected. It’s too late to bring back the people who are already dead, but there are tens of thousands of people still in harm’s way.

There is too much at stake to worry about our own egos. When my son was killed, I had to face the fact that I was somehow also responsible for what happened. Every American that allows this to continue has, to some extent, blood on their hands. Some of us have a little bit, and some of us are soaked in it.

Read more.

Photo from North Carolina Independent Media, Chapel Hill, NC
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:10 PM
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1. Already a thread on this in GD Jack
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4317965

but her words are too powerful to be confined to one forum.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:19 PM
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2. It'll probably stay up here longer . . .
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 07:25 PM by Jack Rabbit
EDITED for grammar

I hang here more than GD.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:20 PM
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3. Agreed
I do too. Not to mention that your post is so much prettier than mine, with the picture and html formating. :-)
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 04:09 PM
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25. I also nominate this thread - Cindy is so right about everyone having some
blood on their hands by not getting involved before.

Everyone who has seen the light, please get busy with petitions and emailing the media. AfterDowningSteet.org has a page where all you have to do is click on an email address and keep going down the page to let the MSM know what you think about Bush's refusal to meet with Cindy and threatening to arrest her and intimidating her with threats of one of the speeding SS men hitting her and her companions.

And the despicable torture and the refusal to release the photos and 4 videos of the rape, torture and murder of men, women and an 8 year old boy.

:dem: :kick:


http://www.conyersblog.us/
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loverevolution Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:23 PM
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26. Cindy has been at this for a long time, like many DUers
Hi guys,
long time lurker, first time poster here. Cindy is right, we have to do everything we can right now, anything we can think of to push for an end to this war. We have the majority behind us, and Cindy is encouraging everyone to take a stand. I for one cannot stand the thought(or the images) of the innocent Iraqis we have killed and maimed(yet I cannot look away) or our brave soldiers forced to do their jobs in 120 degree weather while constantly having to look over their shoulder for the next person that wants to kill them. Bush is never planning on leaving....never....so it is up to us to expose this mess and end it.

I love this letter Cindy wrote..."Dear George and Dick"
"I have wanted to write this letter for over a year.

We know the intelligence leading to the war was "dead" wrong and gleaned from a known liar (your administration likes liars...familiarity, and all), so I have a question for you...

Why are Americans and Iraqis still dying every day?

Then, George and Dick...you both go around spewing the lying filth that "freedom is on the march in Iraq." Well, I have a challenge for both of you: if you believe in freedom so much in Iraq...then send your own children over there to fight and perhaps die in the occupation without the proper training, equipment, food, water, supplies, armor, or protection. If you aren't willing to send your own children to die for this most grievous bull-crap, THEN BRING THE REST OF OUR CHILDREN HOME...NOW!!! The definition of a just war is one that you are willing to have your own children die for. Apply the definition. Then send your own children if you believe this aggression is just...if not THEN BRING THE REST OF OUR CHILDREN HOME...NOW!!!"

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/sheehan4.html
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:27 PM
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27. Welcome to DU, lovrevolution
!!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:10 AM
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28. Hi loverevolution!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:22 PM
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4. Nominated. C'mon, people. n/t
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:25 PM
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5. Nominated
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:26 PM
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6. Thanks, DD
That's flattering.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:11 PM
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8. Done. This is a pivotal moment, and not only is Cindy standing up,
she's articulating the issue so well.

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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 07:49 PM
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7. OK, you talked me into it.
(keeping my fingers crossed for Cindy's tenacity)
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:19 PM
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9. my heart is breaking, her words are COMPELLING
I hate this God-forsaken country, I hate the fact that America has fallen asleep. While the majority are against the war, they still don't take the time to stand up and shout. Everything is falling apart, and there is a voice in the wilderness. . .
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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:35 PM
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11. Reminds me of this country in the sixties, despite our protests. n/t
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:24 PM
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10. She is inspired.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:08 AM
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17. and, inspiring... n/t
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:40 PM
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12. Another nomination.
I just saw the tape of her interview on Olbermann tonight. What an incredible woman.
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SeanQuinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:43 PM
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13. God bless you, Cindy! God bless you. nt
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buddha8 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:11 AM
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14. accountability
I would say its an accountability moment right now for the progressive movement as well. What will it take before people man the lines and declare 'no more business as usual, period'? How high does gas have to go? How much more blood? Will it take a Beirut barracks type disaster where 400 soldiers get taken down in one day before the sleeping hoards turn off their T.V.s and hit the streets? What is it going to take to rouse them? When will progressives become activists? All the information and instant messaging in the world will do nothing unless a small group becomes a larger one and that larger one becomes humungous. That is what the bush-turd and his minions fear most.

Why isn't the movement forming a very solid definition of what exactly is going on down in Crawford? ITs obvious to everyone. The bush-turd must be defined again and again repeatedly as a coward and a liar. Just say it over and over until it imbeds itself deeply in the American psyche. Georgie is a coward and a weakling and a liar. The three things every guy who sits down to Monday Nite Football hates most. The three things that wavering bush supporters fear they may be. Cowards,Weaklings,Liars. If you define the Turd successfully this way 24/7 you strip him of his 'presidency' and you call him what he is. The only remaining credibility this facist regime still clutches onto is the bizarre appeal of the little Texas sheriff. We must attack that where it breaths and drown it in truth. This tiny little man is a coward, a weakling and a liar who is AFRAID of a grieving Widow. He is afraid of anyone who questions his authority. Anyone. He is afraid.

Please lets get the word out now. the turd must be defined in concise and simple language and it must be used 24/7. Can we learn nothing from these propagandists? We have truth on our side but it does no good unless one seizes the opportunity for simplicity. Not one host on Air America today could grasp this. Not one could really get on message. Time to get on message and stay on it. Keep it simple. This little man is a coward,a weakling and a liar. There, you got him right where he breathes.
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:15 AM
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15. Rush's latest spin to discredit Sheehan is to say she's acting alone
from her family. He claims to have a letter from "grandparents, aunts and uncles" (no names, just relatives), saying that Cindy is carrying out her own agenda and the rest of the family does not agree with her.

Better get that anal cyst checked out again, Rushbo. Look at how big it's gotten. And it's overtaken what you're trying to pass for your head.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:17 AM
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18. Here's hoping Rushbo is having his
accountability moment in the near future.

Hey Rush, I hear intimate contact can do something about that anal cyst!
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:36 AM
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16. tens of thousands of people in harm's way?
Is she referring only to the soldiers there?
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:22 AM
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20. Yes, but put it in context
She is talking about what our government can do -- "it is too late to bring back the people who are already dead, but there are still tens of thousands in harm's way."

Obviously, we can't take all the Iraqis in harm's way back here with us, but we can pull our own troops out.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 07:18 AM
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19. wow, she IS good, and needs to run for office
where she can possibly make a difference in the formal, representative political arena, as well.

how about a du "draft-cindy-sheehan"...
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RedstDem Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:31 AM
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21. Wow, She's Fantastic
George, Your Toast !
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:00 AM
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22. 'George, you're toast'
A few months too late, unfortunately.

But if this leads to a spectacular Götterdämmerung in which sky comes crashing down on Bush and his fellow war criminals, that's fine with me.
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CoolOnion Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:04 AM
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23. He met with the McCartney sisters--why not Cindy?
Back when U.S. citizens were being excluded from Social Security town hall meetings for disagreeing with privatization, Dubya met with the sisters of Robert McCartney--the Belfast man who was shot in a pub brawl. Instead of meeting with Northern Irish politicians who would give him updates on the peace process from both points of view, our pResident gave the five Belfast women a one-hour audience. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4557235.stm

By not meeting Cindy Sheehan, he's proved once again that he will not meet with anyone who disagrees with him. I believe this is--at last--his "accountability moment." It's long overdue.

Good luck, Cindy, & God bless.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:32 AM
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24. New Cindy Sheehan post (Day 6) at Huffington Post
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Teena Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:52 AM
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29. Bush's War, Cindy's Outrage
Check this out: http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-177.html
This link explains it all.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:48 PM
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30. This is George Bush’s Accountability Moment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/cindy-sheehan/this-is-george-bushas-a_5472.html

08.11.2005 Cindy Sheehan

This is George Bush’s accountability moment. That’s why I’m here. The mainstream media aren’t holding him accountable. Neither is Congress. So I’m not leaving Crawford until he’s held accountable. It’s ironic, given the attacks leveled at me recently, how some in the media are so quick to scrutinize -- and distort -- the words and actions of a grieving mother but not the words and actions of the president of the United States.

But now it’s time for him to level with me and with the American people. I think that’s why there’s been such an outpouring of support. This is giving the 61 percent of Americans who feel that the war is wrong something to do -- something that allows their voices to be heard. It’s a way for them to stand up and show that they DO want our troops home, and that they know this war IS a mistake… a mistake they want to see corrected. It’s too late to bring back the people who are already dead, but there are tens of thousands of people still in harm’s way.

...
People have asked what it is I want to say to President Bush. Well, my message is a simple one. He’s said that my son -- and the other children we’ve lost -- died for a noble cause. I want to find out what that noble cause is. And I want to ask him: “If it’s such a noble cause, have you asked your daughters to enlist? Have you encouraged them to go take the place of soldiers who are on their third tour of duty?” I also want him to stop using my son’s name to justify the war. The idea that we have to “complete the mission” in Iraq to honor Casey’s sacrifice is, to me, a sacrilege to my son’s name. Besides, does the president any longer even know what “the mission” really is over there?

Casey knew that the war was wrong from the beginning. But he felt it was his duty to go, that his buddies were going, and that he had no choice. The people who send our young, honorable, brave soldiers to die in this war, have no skin in the game. They don’t have any loved ones in harm’s way. As for people like O’Reilly and Hannity and Michelle Malkin and Rush Limbaugh and all the others who are attacking me and parroting the administration line that we must complete the mission there -- they don’t have one thing at stake. They don’t suffer through sleepless nights worrying about their loved ones

...


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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:48 PM
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31. In bushboy's lingo..
his "accountability moment" would be called his "judgment day." And, he's failing the test--as we all knew he would.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:48 PM
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32. . . .
I can't embellish on Cindy. She lives what she says, and hasn't wavered. No wonder Bush won't talk to her. He's a perfect vacuum.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:48 PM
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33. Bush cannot read Cindys letter...he is clueless. He cannot comprehend
the essence of what she is saying....

She is a bother to him, like flies on the screen.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:48 PM
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34. A little message for Cindy:
"...given the attacks..."

The reason why they're attacking you is because you're getting through to them. You are their most fearsome opponent. They have never had to face anyone as potentially damaging as you.

You arrived rather suddenly, and you have managed to turn them into fearful, desperate, nail-biting wrecks. They're in a siege mentality: they're holed up in their Fort, trying to decide what to do next.

As you wait below, your supporters are growing in numbers.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:48 PM
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35. Yep, it's an accountability moment...
Didn't Nixon say 1972 was an accountability moment?
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