the US just threw (Iraqi) women's rights down the toilet

[papau]

what a wonderful thing Georgie did

http://www.bigbrassblog.com/2005/08/so-after-all-lives-lost-in-iraq-us.html
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U.S. concedes ground to Islamists on Iraqi law
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Sunday, August 21, 2005
So, after all the lives lost in Iraq, the US just threw women's rights down the toilet

After talking for years about the evil of Saddam Hussein (and yes he was evil), and saying that the very REASON we were going to war, and then staying at war (even when the WMD lie was exposed) was to give the Iraqis a "Democracy" --- something that BushCo has resoundingly insisted the people of Iraq wanted (um, Georgie, where were those flowers you said they would greet us with again?? Oh---you're probably too busy riding around on Tour de Crawford to remember that promise).

So, today, in order to rush through the constitution of Iraq, so that back here they can tell the sheeple sitting so very far away from Iraq (most of whom do not even possess a US passport) that "IRAQ HAS A CONSTITUTION" - the US has just agreed to allow the clause in the constitution of Iraq that "Islam will be THE main source of law" in the country.

Of course, they won't mention this to the sheeple, most of whom get their news through their church's filtered reading material. They won't mention that Islamic law will not only NOT be democratic at all, it will strip all of the rights of women- rights that at least they did have prior to being "freed" by Georgie's gang. Women will:

1. Not be allowed an education (even writing or reading in most cases)
2. Not be allowed to drive
3. Not be allowed to be seen anywhere outside their homes without the shroud of a burka
4. If a woman is raped, she will be the criminal, not the man who raped her
5. Under Islamic law, if a women is even accused of adultery, she is killed - usually by a father or brother or uncle, and this is okay - women are not allowed into a court to defend themselves<snip>

[still_one]

1. isn't democracy wonderful?

[whatever4]

2. Of course they did

There was never any doubt.

To be surprised is to believe they ever cared in the first place. Many troops might, but the powers that be could care less. In fact, it works to their advantage. They do not want women, who traditionally don't favor war, in power.

At all. It works to their advantage. This was planned.

[papau]

3. I guess Laura Bush will stop making trips overseas now? n/t

:-(

[whatever4]

5. Only if her husband tells her to :/ nm

[Village Idiot]

4. Oh Oh...This ain't gonna look good...

when people compare the relative "freedom" that women experienced in Iraq under Saddam...

[PATRICK]

6. Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons

eventually leaves you only with the wrong and the right thing abandoned.
As when Nixon cynically let the Dems have the busing and quota legislation because he knew the blowback would give him and the GOP angry voters.

Sure more women in democracies would do wonders for testosterone religious fanaticism of abusive males, but the RW is only concerned in roiling, dividing and weakening oil rich Islam, not in women's rights, even those they already have sometimes moreso than here. Bush like Nixon probably patronizes women and believes them inferior as do most RW fanatics, maybe Coulter included. Bush is also a fanatic sympathizer of male cults of power. Nor do they intend real democracy for anyone.

So naturally nothing good will come out of his weak speeches, or Laura's posing, about women's rights any more than real concern for fair elections, the Palestinians, democracy or anything beneficial to anyone but the Bushes.

If the road to hell is paved with good intentions, where does the road go where those very intentions are a lie? An assault on heaven of course, a la tower of Babel and its raving defeat.

[coda]

7. U.S. Officials Say a Theocratic Iraq Is Unlikely NYT February 7, 2005

NOW

"The Americans have sided with the Shi'ites. It's shocking. It doesn't fit American values. They have spent so much blood and money here, only to back the creation of an Islamist state."

- A secular Kurdish politician


THEN

(Note Rumsfeld's use of "handwringing", below...DeLay loves to use that one too; it's ALWAYS code for "liberal handwringing.")

U.S. Officials Say a Theocratic Iraq Is Unlikely
By ERIC SCHMITT

Published: February 7, 2005


WASHINGTON, Feb. 6 - The Bush administration sought Sunday to allay concerns that a Shiite religious state could emerge in Iraq as a result of last weekend's elections.

Speaking on television news programs on Sunday, Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said that Iraq's most influential Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, opposed direct cleric involvement in daily governing, and that most Iraqis rejected an Iranian-style theocracy.

"We have a great deal of confidence in where they're headed," Mr. Cheney said on "Fox News Sunday." "I don't think, at this stage, that there's anything like justification for hand-wringing or concern on the part of Americans that somehow they're going to produce a result we won't like."
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In his interview, Mr. Cheney also elaborated, for the first time, on the meaning of President Bush's challenge to the Iranian people to rise up against their ruling clerics. In the State of the Union address, Mr. Bush said, "As you stand for your own liberty, America stands with you."

more....

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/07/politics/07diplo.html?oref=login