Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Guardian: If progressives can win in Utah, they can win anywhere

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
Gasping4Truth Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 07:18 AM
Original message
The Guardian: If progressives can win in Utah, they can win anywhere
Following a concert at the Salt Lake City international jazz festival in July the city's mayor, Rocky Anderson, took some musicians and visiting mayors out for dinner. Some of them had beer; Anderson paid some of the bill.

But cities like Salt Lake offer a few lessons beyond political demography. First, they show that the tendency for coastal liberals to write off as rednecks those who live in "fly-over states" is not just patronising and counterproductive - it is flawed in fact.

Second, they suggest the understanding of the US as a nation riven by a binary divide between Democrats and Republicans is in desperate need of nuance. Not that there isn't some truth to it. But because that truth is limited to the very narrow field of party allegiance rather than the broader sense of how people understand their lives and their politics. Gena Edvalson, a lesbian whose partner Jana is pregnant, says her neighbours in Salt Lake City couldn't be nicer. "They're going to have a baby shower for us," she says. "But that won't stop them from legislating the hell out of us." That is depressing (two-thirds of Utahns voted for a gay marriage ban in November). But it also suggests potential.

Which brings us to the third, and most important, lesson. If those coastal liberals decided to drop in rather than fly over once in a while they might actually learn something. Rather than duck tough issues because of the hostile political environment, progressives here have tried to reframe them in a way that resonates with potential allies. "We don't talk about gay liberation in Utah," says Anderson. "We talk about healthy families and strong communities and say that in the most intimate aspects of our lives the government ought to butt out. You have to stand up even at the risk of losing races - some things are more important than winning a race."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1583319,00.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:46 AM
Response to Original message
1. You Would Have To Have Some Kind Of Mental Disconnect
to live in a state that wants to do you personal and permanent political or social harm and intentionally works hard for it, no matter how nice they are to your face. Hpocrisy, my friends, is no basis for a friendship, a job, or a society.

That is why Bush is hated. That is why those that hate Bush cannot fathom what was going through the minds of the Clinton-haters. Clinton (until recently) never did any intentional harm to any American, not even an insult. He made the voters healtier, wealthier, and safer than they had been in at least 12 and probably more like 40 years. And yet the Clinton-haters tried to destroy him, his wife, his daughter, and anyone who was a public servant in his Administration, and put this psychotic despot in charge, because "he's a nice guy" "God ordained him" "He's not Clinton".

Idiocy is no basis for a democracy, either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 05:28 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC