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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:57 AM
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THE STRAW MEN OF IRAQ: Ten Pro-War Fallacies
by Peter Daou
NEW THE STRAW MEN OF IRAQ: Ten Pro-War Fallacies
Friday's hastily staged congressional vote on withdrawal from Iraq may have been designed to embarrass John Murtha, but the raucous session offered valuable insight into the various rationales for war and the tactics used to attack Democrats who oppose Bush's Iraq policy. A parade of House Republicans went after the Dems and laid out a surprisingly weak case for the invasion and continued occupation of Iraq. Here, in my view, are ten of the leading pro-war fallacies...

1. VIRTUALLY EVERYONE WHO SAW THE INTELLIGENCE BELIEVED SADDAM HAD WMD, THEREFORE BUSH IS BEING UNFAIRLY SINGLED OUT FOR CRITICISM

The typical framing is: "Democrats got the same intelligence and reached the same conclusion, so blaming Bush for misleading America is purely political." The argument is also presented in 'gotcha' form by people like Sean Hannity, who use a lengthy blind quote about the threat posed by Saddam that turns out to be from Bill Clinton, John Kerry or some other Democrat. The conclusion is that if Bush was lying, they must have been lying too.

There is a false assumption underlying this argument, namely that Dems received the same intel as Bush (they didn't), but setting that aside, here are two reasons why this is a straw man:

a) The issue is not whether people believed Saddam had WMD (many did), or whether there was any evidence that he had WMD (there was), it's the fact that Bush and his administration made an absolute, unconditional case with the evidence at hand, brooking no dissent and dismissing doubters inside and outside the government as cowardly or treasonous. That's what "manipulating the intelligence" and "misleading the public" refers to, the knowing exaggeration of the case for war (whether by cherry-picking intel or using defunct intel or by speaking about ambiguous intel in alarming absolutes). As I wrote in this post: "There we were, more than a decade after the first gulf war, two years after 9/11, and Saddam hadn’t attacked us, he hadn’t threatened to attack us. And then suddenly, he was the biggest threat to America. A threat that required a massive invasion. A bigger threat than Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Iran, Bin Laden. A HUGE, IMMEDIATE threat. It simply defied belief."

http://daoureport.salon.com/synopsis.aspx?synopsisId=5a38ddbe-5581-43bb-bbde-cb2111fa048b
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 10:08 AM
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1. Nail? Meet head.
Daou did an excellent job shooting down the catapaulted propaganda. Take that list and apply to anyone in this administration or any AM radio RW talking head and their arguments dissolve away completely.

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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 10:29 AM
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2. Recommended
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 10:43 AM
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3. great points
hope I can remember all of them.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 11:48 AM
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4. This is a great article and you don't even need a day pass to read!
kick and recommend! :kick:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 12:54 PM
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5. Yeah...this should be on the DU Home Page!!
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 12:54 PM by Roland99
In a sticky!

:D
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 12:55 PM
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6. This gets the 5th vote.
thanks for posting
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BJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:36 PM
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7. Hey Everybody--Real the Whole Piece--Its Fantastic!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:48 PM
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8. "bu$h the terrible"
Isn't it terrible that we've done nothing to stop the slaughter in Darfur?

Isn't it terrible that Iraq is still a killing field and now a terrorist breeding ground?

Isn't it terrible that a nuclear armed Kim Jong Il is still in power?

Isn't it terrible that the hundreds of billions of dollars spent in Iraq could have saved millions of starving children instead of killing tens of thousands of Americans and Iraqis?
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:08 PM
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9. YES! Rec'd. READ THIS READ THIS READ IT READ IT.
Best synopsis EVER.
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Bellamia Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 05:52 PM
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11. Read it, read it read it..........
Alright, already! :>) I printed it; will read it later. Just reading the response posts, I know it is great. Recommended, but it doesn't need my vote.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:49 PM
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10. Awesome
This should be on the front page. :woohoo:
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Susan43 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:25 PM
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12. TERRIFIC!
Great article. I tried to reccommend it but I'm still too new. But it deserves to be sent all over the web.

My guess would be the freepers won't read it, too damn sensible. But I'm sure glad I did.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 10:14 PM
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13. That is great. Isn't it good that Saddam is out of power? I don't know. I
think another Iran would be a bad thing.
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