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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 10:48 AM
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Ruben Navarette: "First, let's get the foreigners "
Local paper runs this guy's column a couple times a month. He usually is very supportive of Bush but he seems to have turned sharply with this piece. Like so many other stalwarts of late.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/op-ed/navarrette/20051221-9999-lz1e21navarr.html

The people invading your privacy are from the government, and they're here to help you. They just don't want you to know they're helping you. No one could ever accuse the Bush administration of not knowing how to keep a secret. Whether it is trying to keep under wraps the proceedings of deportation hearings, or hiding the existence of CIA-run secret prisons on foreign soil, keeping a lid on things is what this bunch does best.

And don't fall for the line about how this is necessary with the country at war. Loose lips sink ships, and all that. Even before the war on terror, the administration withheld the names of energy industry executives who met with Vice President Dick Cheney to create national energy policy.

Why all the secrecy? Maybe because Team Bush sees the nosy busybodies in the Fourth Estate as the enemy. Here's the latest thing the in-the-dark American taxpayer isn't supposed to know the first thing about: that President Bush – a few months after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 – issued an executive order authorizing the National Security Agency to spy on Americans and other individuals inside the United States without having to convince a judge that there is probable cause to issue a warrant authorizing the surveillance, as required by law.

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katejones Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:00 PM
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1. I suppose all this
rests on your assumptions. If like Bush and all, you believe that terrorism is the largest danger, maybe this makes sense. If like the DU, you believe that terrorism is not a threat, then obviously you would disagree with him.

I think terrorism is a huge threat and we must fight that threat. Selective monitoring doesn't bother me. The government can't keep scissors off of planes. What makes you think that they care about what you are saying to Great Aunt Mabel?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:36 PM
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2. "If like the DU, you believe that terrorism is not a threat"
Who the hell told you that? Where did you come from recently?
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katejones Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 02:41 PM
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5. I have been reading
Everything on this site and I was just coming from a thread that talked about how terrorism is not a threat but a made up thing by the Bush admin. They also said that Bush was more a threat than terrorism. I am sorry if I meant to imply that you all felt that way.

I certainly do not feel that way myself.

My post is talking about different world views though. I take conservatives as sincere people the same as liberals so that was what I was extrapolating from.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:40 PM
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3. I hope you didn't join DU today just on my account, ma'am,
because I suspect you won't be adding much of value to the dialogue.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:42 PM
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4. Have a nice day, and have a nice stay
I'm sure it will be brief.
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