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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 12:49 PM
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Doubts about Recovery
http://www.mises.org/fullarticle.asp?control=1337&id=62

The popular press has adopted a more optimistic tone regarding economic conditions. The reasons for this are clear. It appears that the current recovery is picking up pace. Recent reports indicate that second quarter GDP for this year increased by 3.3%, instead of the earlier 3.1% estimate. This is more than double the GDP growth rate from the preceding two quarters. Analysts expect 4% or higher growth for the following two quarters, with some predicting 6 to 7% growth. Falling inventories and strong spending, some say, indicate that this recovery will continue.

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However, this fact is crucial: a considerable portion of this increased GDP has come from increased military spending. Military spending rose 45.8% for the second quarter. This is the strongest quarterly increase in military spending since the Korean War.

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The Federal Reserve has pursued an aggressive policy in recent years. It has expanded the money supply rapidly, thus driving interest rates below levels that reflect consumer preferences. This has surely had a good affect on GDP statistics. Non-residential investment has risen by 7.3%. and consumer sending, which had been predicted to rise 3.3%, is up by 3.8%. Consumer will spend more and save less when interest rates fall because the financial return on deferred consumption has fallen. Investors will invest more when interest rates fall because the financial returns on investment rise as the cost of paying back credit fall. Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek recognized this long ago. They also realized that this would lead ultimately to inflation and future recessions.

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 12:52 PM
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1. The Evening News Broadcasts have not......
adopted this whoring for Bush that the economy is getting "better"!

There are still problems out there and they are the only one's covering it!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 01:10 PM
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4. if you go to the
original article site, the link that is embedded at "popular news" is to a FAUX article http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98385,00.html,%20http:/209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/971906/posts,%20and%20http:/www.finance24.co.za/Finance/Economy/0,6778,1518-25_1422021,00.html

- I agree that at least ABC has been concentrating on the bad economic news ...
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 01:00 PM
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2. They're just lies....
When you can control the data and the way the data is presented,
then that data becomes the "truth"...
I'd really like to know where all that "productivity" really
was. Yes, producing weapons and spending on the military MIGHT be
considered "productive" by some...but in reality this does NOT
create new jobs.
Unfortunately, I believe that these lies will continue and will get
more ridiculous the closer we get to the presidential "selections".
But then again, I strongly believe that there will be a new "event"
before the elections are held...
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 01:07 PM
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3. Great News!
More money thrown at empire building, more bombs, more guns, more prisons, no jobs, no butter.
Everything is wonderful. 'Move Along,' said the nice HSA apparachik...Travel on airplanes, and buy a new SUV for Jesus.

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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 01:18 PM
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5. Yeah...the Soviets did the same thing....
and their people started to starve...
As did North Korea...and all the other totalitarian countries.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 01:44 PM
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6. Wecovery
is alwaays around the corner.
unfortunately, Bush is stuck in a round presidency.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 06:49 PM
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7. Let's Keep Watching
Personally, I'm still sceptical about this, um--"recovery." Let's see how big the Christmas buying sprees are. Let's see how employment figures improve--or not. Let's see if Americans start reducing their personal debt, then resume spending.

Right not the Shrub is hardly in a position to say that all is peaches and cream with the economy, even in the short term.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-03 07:53 PM
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8. Jobs, jobs and jobs
As much as this administration might distort the numbers, and they do, despite how much the right wing media leaps on those distorted numbers as factual proof of something, which they do, the real numbers show that there are no jobs being created and factories are not planning on doing any hiring in the immediate future.......
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