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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 08:43 PM
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RW whacko LTE on Gitmo
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 08:49 PM by Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
If this guy is a Christian he must have read a different Bible than I did. In a perfect world the extremist Christians and Islamofascists would kill each other off. Instead they want to drag all of the rest of us down with them.


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Best to let detainees simply rot in prison



What is it about the war on terror that you editorial writers at The Herald don't understand?

Your Thursday editorial says "Charge Guantanamo detainees or let them go." You have surely taken leave of your senses.

-snip-

So, editors, will it take the beheading of your wife or husband or the mutilation of your child for you to sign onto this war? Will you continue to display a color photo of a Pygmy goat on the front page while the story of Nick Berg's severed head gets page 3? Don't you get it? These Islamofacists hate us because we are Christians. We are infidels and must be slaughtered. Even the Nazis did not turn their own children into human bombs.

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/02/26/100let_20060226004.cfm
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 08:47 PM
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1. Who's this "We" he speaks of...
I'm not a christian. I don't even believe in god. I think it's more like they hate us for being on their soil, but call me crazy.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 08:48 PM
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2. How do we know they're Islamofacists?
They were picked up in Afghanistan BECAUSE THEY LIVED THERE. It's my understanding that the Taliban forced people to fight. That doesn't necessarily mean they're guilty of anything, nor does it give us a clue to each individual's religious beliefs.

If they did something against our country, then charge them. But holding people simply because they were picked up in a sweep is more likely to create more danger than protect us.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 11:29 AM
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8. lynch mob mentality: grab somebody, then they are guilty because you
grabbed them.

Gitmo serves a purpose with knuckle draggers like this--they figure the prisoners must have done something wrong and be very dangerous to be held there, and there are no details.

This is why those guys are being held, and why random Muslims were rounded up here, partly to scare Muslims, but mostly to convince white hillbillies living in trailers that Muslims are dangerous.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 08:50 PM
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3. My response...
And the innocent ones?

And don't argue than none of them are innocent. Neither you nor I know that to be the case, considering that there's been no real oversight into the whole thing. There are children there, and, unless you think it's possible that these children are criminal masterminds, I'd suggest you rethink your attitude.

While it may be arguable that those who are evil and monstrous deserve their fate, one must also consider the possibility that those who are NOT might have been swept up in the net, and thus, innocent and guilty are suffering alike.

If you believe yourself a follower of Christ, can you honestly say that it is fitting that the innocent should suffer along with the guilty?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 08:53 PM
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4. Obviously this fellow has never heard of
someone being picked up and held who was INNOCENT. Wonder if he'd like it if he were picked up on his way to work one day, shipped off to a place far away, not told the charges, not given a chance to clear himself, not given a chance to even tell his family where he is.....
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 09:02 PM
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5. Does the First Amendment protect the Insane's
Right to voice their paranoid, delusional ramblings?
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 10:32 PM
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6. weren't people given money to turn people in who might be
taliban -- these people were poor -- might have turned someone in just for the money.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 12:21 AM
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7. National Journal Article
Empty Evidence
By Corine Hegland

"If you think of the people down there, these are people, all of whom were captured on a battlefield. They're terrorists, trainers, bomb makers, recruiters, financiers, bodyguards, would-be suicide bombers, probably the 20th 9/11 hijacker."
-- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, June 27, 2005

Some of the men Rumsfeld described -- the terrorists, the trainers, the financiers, and the battlefield captures -- are indeed at Guantanamo. But National Journal's detailed review of government files on 132 prisoners who have asked the courts for help, and a thorough reading of heavily censored transcripts from the Combatant Status Review Tribunals conducted in Guantanamo for 314 prisoners, didn't turn up very many of them. Most of the "enemy combatants" held at Guantanamo -- for four years now -- are simply not the worst of the worst of the terrorist world.

Many of them are not accused of hostilities against the United States or its allies. Most, when captured, were innocent of any terrorist activity, were Taliban foot soldiers at worst, and were often far less than that. And some, perhaps many, are guilty only of being foreigners in Afghanistan or Pakistan at the wrong time. And much of the evidence -- even the classified evidence -- gathered by the Defense Department against these men is flimsy, second-, third-, fourth- or 12th-hand. It's based largely on admissions by the detainees themselves or on coerced, or worse, interrogations of their fellow inmates, some of whom have been proved to be liars.

<snip>

http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/0203nj4.htm

If he likes locking up innocents in order to protect Amurikans, maybe he should take an indefinite stay in Gitmo just to support the cause.

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