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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:16 AM
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Ehrenreich: "Guys Want to Have Fun...and know exactly what they're doing."
TIME: Guys Just Want to Have Fun
And why they know exactly what they're doing
By BARBARA EHRENREICH
Posted Sunday, Jul. 23, 2006

When I was in college, I followed a simple strategy: Go where the boys are. Sure, that led me into many settings where inebriants flowed, but my reasoning was strictly practical. Men ruled the world, as anyone could see, so the trick was to do as they did. No girlie major like art history or French lit for me. I started in chemistry and then proceeded up the gender gradient to physics, finally achieving in Classical Mechanics the exalted status of only girl in the class.

But that was an era when the cool kids smoked Gauloises and argued about Kierkegaard and Trotsky. Today, as two recent reports have revealed, it's the girls who achieve and the boys who coast along on gut courses congenial to hangovers. Boys are less likely to go to college in the first place (only 45% of college students under 25 are male) and are less likely to graduate as well. If I tried to follow my original strategy now, I would probably end up with an M.A. in Madden, the football video game, and a postgraduate stay in rehab.

The trend has occasioned some predictions of a coming matriarchy in which high-achieving women will rule over a nation of slacker guys....But it may be that the boys still know what they're doing. Among other things that have changed since the '60s is the corporate culture, which once valued literacy, numeracy, high GPAs and the ability to construct a simple sentence. No doubt there are still workplaces where such achievements are valued, but when I set out as an undercover journalist seeking a white-collar corporate job for my book Bait and Switch, I was shocked to find the emphasis entirely on such elusive qualities as "personality," "attitude" and "likability." Play down the smarts, the career coaches and self-help books advised, cull the experience and exude a "positive attitude."...

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Maybe we need a return to gender-segregated higher education, with the academic equivalent of Pinocchio's Pleasure Island for boys, where they can hone their "people skills" at keg parties. But we will need those high-achieving girls more than ever. Someone, after all, is going to have to figure out how to make an economy run by superannuated slacker boys competitive again in a world filled with Chinese and Indian brainiacs. I'd still major in physics if I were doing it again, just because there ought to be at least a few Americans, of whatever gender, who know something beyond the technology of beer bongs.

(Ehrenreich is an essayist and the author of the books "Bait and Switch" and "Nickel and Dimed.")

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1218047-1,00.html?cnn=yes
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:29 AM
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1. THIS Is News?
The Appointed One entered Yale on a Legacy-bye, "graduated" with a low "C" average.
The Appointed One's Puppet Master flunked out of Yale - and then managed to spin attendance at the U. of Wyoming into a career. (Kept him out of Vietnam, though.)
The Secretary of Mis-State is a "specialist" in the Soviet Union (wait, didn't they...)
With a Kegger-in-Chief, CEOs who pay more attention to your family connections & who was in your frat (hey, when doing insider trading you want people who swore to keep your secrets YEARS ago) we are simply re-playing Old Times. Sinclair Lewis called them "Boosters." The Age was called "The Gilded."
Welcome Back, Mellon.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:32 AM
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2. You nailed it! nt
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:26 AM
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9. they probably re-enact the hazing with the blindfold and cracker in the
boardroom.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:33 AM
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3. This is an interesting companion piece to the NYT article today about men
dropping out of the workforce...the NYT piece discusses (in passing) how women are a larger part of the economy--despite making wages much lower than men, still. The strong impression I get from both is just how the rules change to preserve male position... Sure, women can come Be a Part of Our Corporation--so long as they accept lower wages. In the Ehrenreich piece, it's Sure, we recognize that women are outperforming men in college--but personality is now more important than performance.

Ugh. That's how we got this president.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:37 AM
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4. Interesting observations -- thanks, Dem. nt
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:38 AM
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5. I am double-majoring in physics and engineering
and I still see very few women in engineering, math, or any of the sciences (barring biology) :-/! I was always one of maybe two women in any class I took.
And gender inequality in those fields is alive and well.

I am trying to go down the academic career path and I can testify to the truth of this statement:
If you are a woman in the sciences, you have to work twice as hard to get half as much recognition.

I see a lot of women in the humanities -like sociology, culture studies etc. I have no idea how things are in those fields...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:06 AM
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7. Wow! Kudos to you, nam, and best of luck. nt
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:25 AM
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8. Thanks :)/nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:16 PM
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10. Female students are still clumped in Languages, Education, nursing...nt
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godhatesrepublicans Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 09:39 AM
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6. It sounds like the same old story to me. Men goof off while...
... women do all the real work. It's just becoming more obvious as society gets more and more high tech by the day.

Men slide by on surface charm like, well, "Dear Leader." I know a lot of "successful" men, and they are all idiots. Every halfway successful woman I know by comparison is a workaholic compulsive learner, who'll never get promoted past a certain point because the dullard bosses need someone to do the actual work.
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