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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 12:43 PM
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Ornstein: " . . . And Mischief" (Even an AEI guy is outraged)
One of the most disgraceful moments in American sports came in the 1972 Olympics, when officials gave the Soviet Union's basketball team three chances to shoot the ball after the clock had apparently run out -- allowing it to defeat the U.S. team.

American politics now has its own version of that infamous game. Early last Sunday, starting at about 3 a.m., the House of Representatives began its roll call on the Medicare prescription drug plan -- the most significant vote of the year. The House votes by electronic device, with each vote normally taking 15 minutes. After the allotted time, the bill, supported by the president and the Republican leadership, was losing. The vote stayed open. Before long it became clear that an absolute majority of the House -- 218 of the 435 members -- had voted no, with only 216 in favor. But the vote stayed open until Republicans were able to bludgeon two of their members to switch sides. It took two hours and 51 minutes, the longest roll call in modern House history.
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In 1995, soon after the Republicans gained the majority, Speaker Newt Gingrich declared his intention to make sure that votes would consistently be held in the 15-minute time frame. The "regular practice of the House," he said would be "a policy of closing electronic votes as soon as possible after the guaranteed period of 15 minutes." The policy was reiterated by Speaker Dennis J. Hastert when he assumed the post.

But faced with a series of tough votes and close margins, Republicans have ignored their own standards and adopted a practice that has in fact become frequent during the Bush presidency, of stretching out the vote when they were losing until they could twist enough arms to prevail. On at least a dozen occasions, they have gone well over the 15 minutes, sometimes up to an hour.

The Medicare prescription drug vote -- three hours instead of 15 minutes, hours after a clear majority of the House had signaled its will -- was the ugliest and most outrageous breach of standards in the modern history of the House. It was made dramatically worse when the speaker violated the longstanding tradition of the House floor's being off limits to lobbying by outsiders (other than former members) by allowing Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy G. Thompson on the floor during the vote to twist arms -- another shameful first.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14900-2003Nov25.html
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 12:48 PM
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1. Ornstein's conclusion: "The ugliness of this one will linger."
Democracy is a fragile web of laws, rules and norms. The norms are just as important to the legitimacy of the system as the rules. Blatant violations of them on a regular basis corrode the system. The ugliness of this one will linger.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14900-2003Nov25.html
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:06 PM
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2. No, what won't linger is Democracy
At this point, there is a 90% chance that the American Experiment in self-rule ended in 2000.
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:28 PM
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3. Republicans inwardly desire fascism where all oppositon...
can be stamped out.
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