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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 05:50 PM
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Kathleen Parker: some of my best friends are gay
No shit, she is seriously giving us her gay-friendly creds to support her anti-gay-marriage position.

She goes on to throw in some teleological junk science to make the column even more laughable.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/chi-0311260018nov26,1,3310131.story?coll=chi-printcommentary-hed

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I figure I'm a fairly typical middle-of-the-road heterosexual married woman when I say: I love gays and, well, the whole gay thing. I love all my gay friends and relatives, not to mention my hairdresser; I love what gays do to urban neighborhoods; I love gay humor, gay style and whatshisname in "My Best Friend's Wedding."

I was what we used to call a "fag hag" when you could still use the term affectionately without fear of offending--before most of today's gays were out of diapers (changed most likely by a mom or a dad, not by Heather's two mommies or Douggie's two daddies). Thanks to my very best friendship with my gay first cousin, I've had many a gay time as a token belle in the heart of San Francisco's Castro district.

In other words, no one who knows me would call me a homophobe.

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Leaving God out of the equation, it is irrefutable that nature had a well-ordered design. Male plus female equals offspring. It is a certainty that male/male and female/female unions don't meet nature's standard. They may occur "naturally" in that one does not consciously elect to be gay, but such unions fall short of any design that matches nature's intentions. It also seems clear that our moral codes and institutions were created primarily to protect that design in the interest of the species and civilization.

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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:01 PM
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1. So according to her..eggs do not spawn without 'marriage'..in the church?
this is such a stupid argument...as if the only way to have children is to get married in the church and consumate that marraige with children.

If GOD CODIFIED MARRIAGE...WHY DO PEOPLE GET PREGNANT OUTSIDE OF IT??? OR IF IT IS NATURAL SELECTION...SEEMS THE WORDS 'I DO' WOULD SEND SPERM COUNTS UP AND EGGS JUST A FLOWING...

Marriage is MAN MADE...duh...do cats marry cats in order to have offspring???

In fact the more civilized we become the less bonds matter....the IGNORANT want us to live as if the 17th century still influenced survival....IT DOES NOT...GET OVER IT...:grr:...grrrrr...can you tell I get pissed at people like this?..

And I am straight....not because I want to be...but because I was BORN that way....TRUST ME...IF IT WAS A CHOICE I WOULD BE A LESBIAN...I even experimented...and thought I might be...but when I was in the lifestyle, I understood that it was NOT choice or I would be a lesbian right now!!! :grr:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:40 PM
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5. Parker doesn't seem to be aware of social progress
as a concept even. Seems to think that all of our institutions are the end result of nature's grand scheme, which she somehow got clued in on. How, she doesn't say, was it a dream? Was it revealed to her in a tortilla?

Cat marriage, lol. :-)

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:06 PM
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2. I saw that piece of tripe
Couldn't understand why she went to so much trouble to point out the folk as queer in her life. Then I read the rest of the column. Holy smokes! Ms. Parker could take her place right next to Mr. Falwell or Mr. Robertson, and you wouldn't see so much as a sliver of daylight between them.

I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night. If Ms. Parker writes like a hater, thinks like a hater and advocates like a hater, she is, unavoidably, a hater.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:14 PM
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3. I love it when these morons....(warning! explicit!)
I love it when these morons exclaim something like:
(paraphrasing, but accurate: "The penis fits nicely into the vagina, therefore that's all they were intended for!"
I wonder what kind of sex lives these people have!

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 06:22 PM
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4. Reds flags fly when folks use that stupid expression, 'eh?
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 06:24 PM by 0007
And some of my best friends are republians too, LOL!!

Another expression that has been a bad omen for me is; "Bless his little heart" - Anyone using these expressions with me finds this ass doing a 180.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 07:46 PM
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6. She can't even be consistent in the same article
"If the state goes out of its way to make marriage attractive, it is because marriage is so difficult and, in many ways, unnatural. It is far more natural for humans, animals that we are, to enjoy gratification whenever and wherever than it is to settle for decades into a system of monogamy"

"Making homosexual unions equal to heterosexual unions--the superior natural order of which cannot be disputed--is not just a small step for equality. It is a gargantuan leap from a natural order that has served mankind throughout civilized human society."

So is heterosexual marriage natural or unnatural? Who can tell from her arguments?

I think she's paranoid about the state of her own relationship(s) (anyone know if she is now, or has ever been, married?)
"That many fail, however, is no justification for eliminating the goal of the nuclear, male-female, monogamous family"

This is the glaring flaw in her argument that makes it unfit to print. No-one has the goal of eliminating families. They want to have extra ones. Anyone who wants to marry someone of the opposite sex will still be able to. Doesn't she understand that? Doesn't she live in the real world? Or does she get her news through a filter, like Dubya? How can she be a syndicated colummist if this is the garbage she produces? So many questions?

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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 08:36 PM
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7. We need marriage
to "protect" heterosexual intercourse to insure that the species will continue???? I'd be willing to bet that there's more hetero intercourse going on outside the bonds of marriage than within. No, our breeding capacity is in no danger of running out, I'd say.

If marriage is so sacred, let's outlaw divorce. And let's make it illegal for infertile people to marry, if the whole reason for it is to promote procreation. Maybe set a time limit, you must produce offspring within 2 years or face serious jail time. After all, nature has a "well ordered design" and we better not fuck with it!!!!!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:33 AM
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8. gays are OK as long as they are entertaining her
Edited on Thu Nov-27-03 02:35 AM by Skittles
Ms. Parker fails to see them as real, whole human beings. And that, sadly, just might make her a "fairly typical middle-of-the-road heterosexual married woman."
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 04:15 AM
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9. These people forget the SOCIAL aspect of sex
There is more than one kind of primate that will indulge in same-sex intimacy as a way of establishing social relationships--bonobos do this sort of thing, so it isn't "against nature" as such, unless "intelligent design" failed in this respect.

:)
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