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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:04 PM
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Outrage-Muslim Cleric likens women to 'uncovered meat'
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=412697&in_page_id=1770

Outrage as Muslim cleric likens women to 'uncovered meat'
By RICHARD SHEARS

Last updated at 16:10pm on 26th October 2006


A Muslim cleric's claim that women who do not wear the veil are like 'uncovered meat' who attract sexual predators sparked outrage around Australia yesterday.

Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali, the nation's most senior Muslim cleric, compared immodestly-dressed women who do not wear the Islamic headdress with meat that is left uncovered in the street and is then eaten by cats.

EU boss Barroso blasts veil as 'obstacle to communication'

Politicians including Prime Minister John Howard, community leaders and a large number of Muslims condemned the mufti's comments amid calls that he should be deported to Egypt, his country of origin.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:05 PM
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1. what a pig
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:10 PM
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2. What a CHAUVINIST pig.
:hi:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:18 PM
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3. Sadly, there are a lot of men in the US who agree with him
especially young males and old males who don't have enough upstairs to think things through.

Personally, I feel the only answer to garbage like this would be to suggest men wear blindfolds when they're out and about since they're the ones committing the crimes against women.

Both suggestions are equally silly, that one and the cleric's.

(statistics will demonstrate that it doesn't matter who a woman is, what she's wearing, or whether she's at home behind locked doors, she's still a potential rape victim 24/7.)
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:58 PM
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11. Oh' horse shit.
There are NOT a lot of men in the USA who agree with that asshole except sexual predator's and rapists which are very few in number when compared to the total male population as opposed to the general concept MANY Muslin man hold of women.

Take too many womans studies course or what?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:42 PM
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15. You left out right wing fundies ... which is probably what was referred to. nt
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:54 PM
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16. No. right wing fundies
don't cover up their women, except for the very few sects which require only covering for modest reasons, which is far different than women in Islam who are required under penalty: beatings, rape, verbal and physically abuse if you don't to cover up.




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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:00 PM
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17. Male attitudes toward rape have been studied extensively
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2294/is_n1-2_v29/ai_14526333

http://www.ibiblio.org/rcip//vb.html#pagebegin

http://www.holysmoke.org/fem/fem0286.htm

http://web.mit.edu/cp/www/acqurape.htm#male

Oh, wait, silly me. That cheap crack about "womens studies" means that it must be all our fault, that we're really not worth considering, and that it's perfectly natural to blame the victim of a vicious assault if that victim happens to be a woman.

Bye.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:22 PM
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18. Silly me, I thought you know I used invisible posting fonts
to blame the victim and say womens studies are not worthy. You read far too much into my cheap crack

My point is your post was biased toward men. A very ugly bias.

"there are a lot of men in the US who agree with him especially young males and old males who don't have enough upstairs to think things through."

Really!!! There are lots of men in the USA who are like this asshole who thinks women are like meat left out for the cats to eat because it's not covered and are too stupid to understand why that Islamic conceptual template for women is not normal for any male young or old?

You are right, I should have taken womens studies in college to clear my abnormal male psych which believes women are to be treated as equals and partners instead made to believe deep down I'm a rapist.

Bye.

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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:23 PM
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4. I have my own radical theory
It should be obvious that what women have is a "vagnet". It is a vagnetic device lodged inside our vaginas that sucks the sperm from passing males. A man who is subjected to the "vagnet" has no control over his own actions. I think it came from the long lost story in the Bible about Eve sexually experimenting with a pretty rock.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:27 PM
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5. al-Hilali: exemplifies why so many people HATE Islam.
What a PIG. His fellow muslims need to condemn him, and if they send him home to Allah I won't shed a tear.

This man doesn't want to know what I would do if I got within arm's reach of his sorry ass.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:30 PM
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6. I have been chastised here at DU for taking the position that the Muslim
fundies are much much worse than the Xtian ones...this is one of many examples.

Those who try to accommodate the Muslim social demands in the name of inclusiveness and tolerance are cutting their own throats. We need to hold fast to the secular state.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:45 PM
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8. yup, and they're not going to budge
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:56 PM
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10. You Think Xtian Fundies Don't Share This Tendency?
Don't you remember the judge who said the woman's "provocative jeans" led to her rape?
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:54 AM
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21. It was also roundly denounced by many Xtians too
which is not happening in this and the other cases where a immam goes well over the line. The lack of veil defense has been tried in Austrailia as "cultural jusitifaction" for the raping of non Muslim women. It was support by this immam and others. Whackos are present in every group. The telling point for me is whether they are denounced or made excuses for.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:19 PM
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19. I'd take my chances with Christian nutcases any day over Muslim
whackjobs of this type.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:37 PM
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7. Women who do not wear the veil
are none of his business.

To fundies of all stripes: Tend to your own flock and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:46 PM
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9. amen to that!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:59 PM
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12. News flash to troglodyte cleric:
You're in AUSTRALIA. Where the vast majority of women do not customarily wear the veil, and have never done so, and never will.

If the sight offends you so much, go live somewhere where it is commonly done.

I'm all in favor of diversity and immigrants keeping traditions and languages and all that (as long as it's not actually criminal by the new country's laws--veiling is OK, "honor" killings are not). But not to the point where they actually seek to impose traditions that other cultures find deeply offensive on everyone else there.
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livingonearth Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:05 PM
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14. Well said
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:04 PM
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13. I think men who claim to be religious leaders but
only promote hate and bigotry are like meat left out too long. They stink and attract flies. Everyone has an opinion.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:25 PM
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20. So men are just feral sexual predators?
That's also what he's saying by implication -- that men are incapable of any self control over their animal instincts, with their minds eternally in the gutter.

He doesn't think much of humanity -- of either gender -- at all, does he?

:eyes:
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