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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:26 AM
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If Haggard strays, his team will know
Nov. 20, 2006

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The rehabilitation of the Rev. Ted Haggard will look a lot like parole.

It might not include urine tests or ankle bracelets, but he'll be tracked all the same. He'll have to keep appointments, work on issues and constantly answer to other people.

With one difference.

"He can stop at any time. A guy on parole can't stop," said H.B. London of Focus on the Family, who will step in for his cousin, James Dobson, as a member of Haggard's restoration team.

<snip>

Although the restoration process varies from church to church, it always starts with a confession, London said. "There's no way to begin the healing process unless they're willing to admit they need to be healed," he said.

A member of New Life's overseer board, the Rev. Larry Stockstill, said Haggard will then undergo a polygraph test to help the team gauge how honest he is being.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/16058257.htm

Maybe Haggard should considered counseling with trained professionals if he really wants to get 'cured'.

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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:29 AM
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1. All rightey then! If only all them lying gays could be "cured" this way!
:sarcasm:
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:03 AM
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12. Hey - I Wonder If the Cops with Tasers Could "Cure" Him?
There may be some soon-to-be-unemployed guys out in in LA maybe they could recruit them.

:sarcasm:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:32 AM
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2. "trained professionals" will help him learn to live with himself
as he was born. He needs some good, liberal Episcopalian churching is what he needs...
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:36 AM
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3. Metropolitan Community Church is what he needs
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:36 AM
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4. If I were his family,
I would be more concerned about the meth addiction which has a very low survival rate.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:53 AM
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5. Haggard's not addicted
He just buys the stuff so he can throw it away.

:sarcasm:

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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:54 AM
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6. Wheew. Then no worries, right!
Sure glad it doesn't take one hit to become addicted.

:thumbsup:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:56 AM
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7. Depends on whether or not he inhales
and what it is he's inhaling.

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:57 AM
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9. 1. Find A Source Check 2. Buy The Goods Check 3. Toss Goods In Trash
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 06:58 AM by Binka
No Check. Sorta like paying for a whore and then saying you just wanna look at her. Makes no sense Dime Bag Hagg.
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:30 PM
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16. Let all the TV Preachers
Have a polygraph test.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:16 AM
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14. The article talks about confession
Haggard never confessed until he got CAUGHT! I get so fucking tired of people who get caught in the act and thenm get martyred for confessing their sins. Would he have confessed if he didn't get caught? No way.

Limpbaugh did the same when he got busted for doing massive amounts of Oxy-Contin. Yeah he admitted on the air to having a problem. Gee isn't he a strong person admitting his wrong-doing...after his former housekeeper told the police about it.

Back to Haggard, I do feel bad for the guy that his entire life has been a big lie and that the rest of his life will be also.

My question is what would GAWD want more...for a person to admit he is gay and live life the best he can or to live the life of a liar on many fronts to cover the fact he is gay?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:57 AM
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8. Gives me the creeps
to think about it.
Religion is so creepy.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:01 AM
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10. Denial that homosexuality is a normal
part of the human sexual continuum sure makes for some interesting fundamentalist tail chasing.

He will either triumph over the hatred of this obscene wedge issue these people manufacture and be free for the first time in his live, or he will be so profoundly an 'Uncle Tom' slave wearing their lovingly installed chains he will die in personal misery.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:46 AM
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11. An article I posted last week stated the "rehab" could take 3-5 years.
It seems that the other cult leaders want to trot him out as a success story, somewhere down the line.

"See,Ted gave in to the demons and with Jesus's help he is now straight as an arrow and doesn't partake of anything stronger than apple juice....

Praise the Lord! Gay can be fixed! Look...look how normal he is now..."

These nut jobs are disgusting and scary. And, it almost makes for feel sorry for Haggard. Almost. MKJ
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:42 AM
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15. Haggard Deserves Our Scorn & Loathing
For dehumanizing our brothers & sisters in the GLBT community. His usefulness to the GOP and Christian right is OVER. FOR EVAH.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:29 AM
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13. Sounds like brainwashing
Never leave the subject alone, wake him up at all hours to confess, use science to break him down ('the polygraph says you're still lying, Ted.'), and, for that extra refinement, tell him God hates him for what he is and there's no help anywhere except by pleasing your torturers. Sounds like the Cultural Revolution to me....

Whatever comes out of this 'restoration' won't be a real personality of any kind. He may fit the desired Christo-hetero mold for a while but I'm betting that he'll suicide or have a permanent breakdown somewhere along the line. You can't 'remake' a 40-something person and expect it to stick. Only he can do that and it isn't through a 'twelve-steps to hell' program like this.
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