Bill OReilly Slams PS3, Gamers, iPods

[Nomad559]

Bill O’Reilly Slams PS3, Gamers, iPods

American society is changing for the worse because of the machines… In the past to flee the real world people usually chose drugs or alcohol… now you don’t have to do that, Now all you have to do is have enough money to buy a machine…

Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don’t deal with reality - ever. So they don’t know what day it is; they don’t know temperature it is; they don’t know what their neighbor looks like. They don’t know anything… because they are constantly diverted by a machine. Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they’ve created their own reality

:puke:

[sakabatou]

1. And geeks and gamers across the world give Bill-o

a giant "FUCK YOU!"

[ixion]

22. yep, you said it

_|_

Up yours, you pompus windbag. :grr:

[datadiva]

2. Well, I'm 62 and I dare

Billo to try and take my PS2. :evilgrin:

[StClone]

3. TV's invention brought you FOX & Bill O'Really

Damn machine!

[rockymountaindem]

4. O'Reilly once again reveals the source of his anger

He's just a man who's fallen desperately behind the times and doesn't understand the world we live in. That's why he's so quick to grab onto the illusion of a comforting past that didn't exist.

One question, Bill. If gamers are so detached from reality, how do you think they got the money to buy the machine? By working perhaps? Noo... I'm sure they all got them from the PS3 fairy.

[Deja Q]

6. True. Did he ever badmouth the Atari 2600?

:rofl:

OMG, it's "Outlaw"!!



And "Combat!"!!



Oooh, and "Commando" too! Look at all that bloodspurting violence!!

[Blue_Tires]

33. lol

i used to fuck shit up in combat!!!

[Deja Q]

5. Well Bill, how are you going to stop it?

I don't disagree that these machines do more harm than good... especially when parents, too busy with their jobs to have the time to care for the kids (or are irresponsible) and let the machines be nannies to them. But it's impossible to have 'freedom' and let all the negative factors have free reign. And nobody will stop them because "it's just business".

So don't piss on just the users. Save some of the urine for the folks who make and sell the machines and games. There is an old saying: "We're all in this together." About time people of all ages remembered that. From 13 to 130.

I recall Bill's special where he was slamming the media for being too vulgar and violent. Funny. He's on FOX. FOX. The network that made it big by not merely nudging the envelope, they ripped it open and tore it to shreds. And here's Bill calling it all bad. It's almost funny. I sympathize with his point of view, but not with him. He is caught in a corporate impasse and we all know he does not dare point out the whole reality. He's content to cherrypick. Understandable, his is a lucrative job. If only we all could do the same thing...

On the plus side, he's making drugs and alcohol socially acceptable by comparison. :crazy: :silly: :sarcasm:

I dunno. At least I've tried helping people with addictions; doing more than to yell "it's bad!!" I still fight my own addiction (television, albeit intelligent television which means my choices are extremely limited) in a world that has no time or place for Aspies. But, fuck, at least I try AND try to reach out. And donate. And tip far more than the legal minimum. Has Bill ever bothered to help anybody whose name isn't "Bill O'Reilly"?

[Kber]

7. Yeah, my kid has an x-box AND an Ipod and he's a real loser.

Nevermind that he worked to earn the money for both himself. Or that he's also on the football team, the wrestling team, the track team and the tennis team (season depending). Or that his grades are great. Or that he's just as happy to go with a friend and the puppy to the dog park as anything else. He's got an ipod, he must be a total slacker right? It's the machines' fault.

[Virginia Dare]

8. Add Luddite to B.O.'s stunningly vapid resume...n/t

[blondeatlast]

28. Beat me to it. nt

[nam78_two]

9. Any ire for the corporations selling them Bill?

I thought the Free-Market Gods know all the answers?

FWIW I think he can have a point on this one though. Not all gaming and gamers per se, but there are certainly a lot of people I know (specially the ones playing WoW) who couldn't care less about the real world (i.e. Iraq, Global warming etc.) and spend ALL their spare time playing video games...Which at 30, I think is kinda immature.

But thats not so much about the medium-its more about this obsessive behaviour that makes people spend hours and hours of spare time preferentially on what is ultimately one particular type of recreational activity to the abandonment of all else.

I am biased though-as one of the few females in my Grad school engg. classes and someone who couldn't care less about gaming, I always found the hard-core gamers annoying ;). I am much more of an outdoorsy person and I have dated gamers and its been disastrous :).

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

13. Perhaps. Apple is an all-blue company. And M$ gives gay partners benefits.

Don't know about the politics of Nintendo and Sony, though.

[Anakin Skywalker]

17. 'Tendo and Sony are Japanese Companies. I Think They Wisely Stay Out of US Politics.

[MidwestTransplant]

10. Sounds like Faux News audience.

[Prophet 451]

11. Bill, buddy, pal, let's talk...

Now, Billy boy, I know you and I haven't always been friends. I remember calling you a liar repeatedly and describing you as "less credible than the Hitler diaries" but it seems your real problem is that you can't adapt Bill O and we're here to help you with that.

Here's the thing Bill. You know those PS3 machines? They cost around $600 a pop, more if you have to get one on eBay. Where do you think gamers get the money for that? They ain't bilking the welfare system for it, Bill, nine times out of ten, they're working for it. They work for their money and decide to treat themselves to a method of entertainment. When the PS3 eventually launches in this country, I might do the same.

Bill, gaming is no longer the preserve of geeks in their parent's basement, if it ever was. Gaming is a lucrative economy these days. Many of us work in that economy. Some, yes, spend their entire waking time playing games and that's a bad thing but they're a tiny minority. Most of us treat our games the same way we do a movie: We work all day, come home, relax, play a game for a few hours or watch a movie and go to sleep.

And Bill, how many people in cities know what their neighbour looks like anyway these days? These are not the days of white picket fences and neighbourhood BBQ's. We work increasingly longer hours at jobs which increasingly don't pay us enough to live on. We don't have time to socialise with our neighbours. We don't know what day it is because increasingly, the only difference between our weekday and our weekend is whether the post turns up. We don't have a relaxing weekend with our family and neighbours, we work every day, including weekends.

We no longer live in an economy based on manufacturing things, we live in an economy based on information (the same economy, I should point out, that has made you a very rich man). You're fighting the future here buddy.

[angstlessk]

12. I do not like to pick favorite responses..but by far you have answered the

debate with aplumb...I am not a gamer, I would NEVER spend $600 on a game playing machine that requires me to purchase games at 50-80-100+ for the games, but I agree that O'reily has 'gamed' the information age and this is just more of the same, but he is not a part of it...so he is not happy.

[A HERETIC I AM]

14. Newshounds.org notes that O'Reilly's website offers Podcasts of his shows!

http://www.newshounds.us/2006/11/20/bill_oreilly_claims_ipods_are_dangerous_to_america.php


What a fucking nimrod.

[natrat]

15. what about voting machines bill

[Anakin Skywalker]

16. What Does O'Lielly Do For Fun Then? Jerking Off?

[Warren DeMontague]

18. constantly diverted by a machine that creates an artificial reality based on lies?

No shit.

[Initech]

19. Did Bill O'Reilly just rip off Ted Kaczynski (the Unibomber)?

I remember reading his manifesto and it saying something along the lines of how man is being controlled by machine and turning the machines off would be equivalent to suicide.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. LOL.

There goes his under 45 audience.

[Lisa]

21. speaking of "creating their own reality", Bill -- have you looked at the GOP?

Evidently Mr. O'Reilly hasn't seen Ron Suskind's article yet. Incidentally, NONE of the gamers I know go around talking like this -- saying that they can basically do whatever they want with the world -- though most of them are young enough to be Bill's children or grandchildren.


"In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.""

http://www.ronsuskind.com/articles/000106.html

[benEzra]

23. That's rather prophetic...

"We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

Pretty much. That's rather prophetic, isn't it? Iraq will be Exhibit A for future historians.

[benEzra]

24. Oops--posted in wrong spot (n/t)

[yurbud]

29. history will have simpler explanation: they wanted to steal and lied to sell it

"Fear mongering and democracy spreading lies assauged the conscious of most of the American public for a time, but the rest of the world was never fooled."

Although even saying that much would be giving them more sympathy than other aggressors throughout history. You can read Hitler's speech before he invaded Poland, and he said they were a threat too, and even went as far as to tell the people not to worry if he himself were killed in the coming conflict since he had designated a successor, as if Poland had the ability to retaliate in kind to the Blitzkreig.

That is forgotten and we just say that Hitler attacked a weaker neighbor to get some "lebensraum" for his people, or more often we just say he was a maniacal nut bent on world domination.

[benEzra]

25. #@%! fogey... :)

I'm 36, own an Xbox, and love to play Halo and Forza Motorsports. My son and daughter (age 7 and 5) like the Spongebob Squarepants game, which I allow them to play in moderation. O'Reilly would have a heart attack if he knew this, but I even let my son and daughter play follow-the-leader and hide-and-seek in the Halo/H2 multiplayer maps, under supervision, on the condition that they not shoot each other or blow themselves up. :)

O'Reilly is simply out-of-touch. Just like the repubs who thought Internet gambling was chiefly the province of penniless problem gamblers, instead of wealthy MBA's on lunch break--and gaming is widely considered more 'spectable than gambling.

Every man I work with who is younger than age 40 owns either an Xbox or a Playstation. One of my coworkers just had a Halo 2 party for his 35th birthday; we all brought our Xboxes and TV's, we set up patch cables and configured the systems, and then all 11 or 12 of us played king of the hill in various Halo 2 maps for a few hours, taking occasional breaks to eat pizza, drink soda, and chat. How is that different than if we had gotten together to drink beer and watch a football game, as O'Reilly would have us do?

One thirtysomething coworker of mine even went so far as to run a buried data cable from his house to his next-door-neighbor's, so they can system link to play network games full-screen. But none of us spend all our time gaming (or even a large fraction of it), any more than we spend all our time at the movie theater or watching TV. It's a small and relatively inexpensive diversion (used games are ten bucks at the local game store, and you can often play one for months without exhausting it).

For my generation, games are the new Monday Night Football. He can just get used to it.

[Skittles]

31. one small point

not being interested in games is not being out of touch - I simply do not care for games, PERIOD, and can ALWAYS find something better to do with my time than play games. O'Reilly is just an ASSHOLE because he does not understand how people can be interested in stuff that does not interest HIM.

[benEzra]

32. Yes, entirely true. (n/t)

[yurbud]

26. Damn kids! Git yur playstation off my lawn! I'll turn my dog loose on you, I mean it!

[yurbud]

27. how long until O'Reilly is caught in a public men's room buying game cartridges?

It was just for RESEARCH! I don't play these things, for god's sakes no!

[Skittles]

30. oh F*** OFF, Bill

I'm nearly 50, not into that shit but guess what? I don't f***ing slam those who do choose to use such machines - they are certainly spending their time better than YOU are, filling your idiot fans' minds with mindless SHIT. F*** OFF ALREADY.