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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:24 PM
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Carville Wrong on Howard Dean
Carville Wrong on Howard Dean

November 23 2006
Counterbias.com
by Stephen Crockett
D E M O C R A T I C T A L K


It's difficult to express my severe disappointment with my former hero, James Carville. When Carville appeared on the national political scene, he was a breath of fresh air. The Cajun Democratic dynamo was a real man of the people speaking in the language of the average man on the street, talking about real world issues.

He appears to have slowly been captured by the system. He is now talking like an inside-the-Beltway politician, spewing the normal venom of the Washington insiders against populist leaders of the Democratic Party, like Howard Dean.

Carville believes that Dean should be replaced because the Democratic gain in Congress was not even bigger than the landslide it was. (No seriously, I am not making this up.) Carville and other Washington insider critics think that the Democratic National Committee could have won around a dozen more seats in Congress by putting more money into those House races.

Continue.. http://www.counterbias.com/803.html
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:28 PM
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1. It would be interesting to ask him how much good a handful
of additional TV spots (all that six million bucks would have paid for) in each of those races would have done and how much good any of the effort this year would have done WITHOUT Dr. Dean's 50 state initiative.

Carville needs a reality check.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:52 PM
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4. Carville needs more than a reality check
He needs a full cranial enema to wash out the diseased crap that passes for his brain.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:32 PM
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2. Rahm Emmanuel said after the election that he wished...
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 11:33 PM by Eric J in MN
...he could have spent more money on Tammy Duckworth.

Duckworth lost in spite of Emmanuel spending about 3 million on her. I doubt more money would have done it, but even if it did, that would just be one more seat.

It's faulty speculation to say that if only Howard Dean had given more money to Rahm Emmanuel, Emmanuel would have put it into underfunded races which were narrowly lost. Emmanuel's own words after the election (to New York Times reporter Adam Nagourney) contradict that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/16/us/politics/16dems.html?ex=1164430800&en=2133072e01be4250&ei=5070


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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:35 PM
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3. I dont think he ever liked Dean...
... in truth, I didnt like Dean for Pres in 2004 at all and I still think I was right in that. But his 50 state strategy in leading the DNC has paid off in a big way.

Carville has made a couple of mistakes here:

1. If Dean had not implemented the 50 state strategy, several races that Democrats won or at least made close would have resulted in walkover GOP victories that have typified the last 20 years.

2. If Dean had not implemented the 50 state strategy, the RNC ALSO could have spent more money on the closer House and Senate Races

3. We are much better positioned to take more seats in congress and more states for the Presidency in 2008 as a result of Dean's strategy.

I would fight to keep Dean as head of the DNC. It is like he and the job were meant for each other.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:55 PM
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5. For your last statement, click my signature.
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