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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:25 AM
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WSJ/ Compromised : Rumors fly that President Bush may be willing to raise taxes
Wouldn't that be something?

"During the recent off-year elections, the president repeatedly pointed to the booming economy and noted that his tax cuts were responsible. With growth strong and unemployment low despite the ending of the stock-market bubble, terrorist attacks and the war in Iraq, he had every reason to be proud. Moreover, both economic theory and the actual timing of the economic revival support his claims regarding the tax cuts.

That is why it is so odd that rumors swarm around Washington that the president may be willing to raise taxes as part of a "deal" on entitlement reform. In particular, the rumors suggest the president might be willing to get rid of the provision that caps the income level used to compute Social Security taxes and benefits. These rumors aren't without substance; last year the president would not rule out raising the cap when asked.

Doing so would raise the marginal tax rate on the entrepreneurs that Mr. Bush credits for having led the economic recovery by more than 10 percentage points. The new effective rate would be five percentage points above the level when he took office. Moreover, in 2011, the rate would go up a further 4.3 percentage points to an effective 53% marginal rate on entrepreneurial income. The president would thus be not just raising taxes on entrepreneurs to well above the levels that prevailed in the Clinton administration, but to a rate higher than that which prevailed in the Carter administration. Most of the improved incentives for entrepreneurship and work brought about under Reagan would be repealed.

Should the president do this, he doubtless would be thinking that saving Social Security would be worth the price. He would be wrong. In practice this idea would both destroy the basis on which Social Security was started and fail to produce the expected revenue that supposedly would save the system. Social Security was set up as a contributory pension plan, not a welfare scheme. Benefits are linked, by statutory formula, to contributions. Congress and the president could choose to maintain this relationship. Traditional supporters of Social Security like AARP have long insisted on this link and argued against turning the program into another welfare plan by ending the linkage between contributions and benefits..."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110009299




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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:41 AM
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1. I heard a rumor that they are going to genetically engineer a cross between pigs and turkeys
and that will solve the question once and for all,
"if pigs had wings they could fly".

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 03:04 AM
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2. Turkeys can't fly.
As evidence, the great line from WKRP...."As god is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 09:57 AM
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5. I believe wild turkeys can fly
Domesticated turkeys cannot.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:16 AM
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3. WSJ misses point that we'd continue to link benefits to contributions - the
million dollar benefit checks to the rich are not a problem.

Because even with those checks flying about, the savings to the system is still 1.75% of payroll - and heck -

then include investment income in the that "payroll" tax base and the Dems - and Bush - could brag about a cut in the actual payroll tax rate! The excess monies would so overfund any social security problem that we could cut taxes AND add a separate 401k program that had a modest contribution from the government.

But the SS surplus would need to be invested in non-government bonds so as to stop the nonsense that it does not exist.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 06:18 AM
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4. The intentional misleading in this article is pathetic.
1) The increase in cap level does not represent an increase in percentage. The author should be ashamed of himself. You don't pay the money unless you make the money.

2)Social security WAS, indeed, set up as a sort of welfare system, as the initial generation of recipients had no opportunity to contribute. The same system of missing or non-existent pension system that was in place then, the cure for which, in small measure was social security, is exactly what deregulation and wingnut management are bringing us into now.

There are other points, I'm sure, but I am tired and making too many typos.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 10:52 AM
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6. read his lips!
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