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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 01:30 PM
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Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi: You MUST relieve Bush of command.
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April 25, 2007

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi: this is pathetic, heartbreaking and treasonous. You MUST relieve Bush of command.

By Esbe

Why is it left to us, ordinary American citizens to fairly scream for an appropriate response from our supposed leaders? Dick Cheney calls Harry Reid’s statement that the war is lost “defeatist” and accuses him of “emboldening our enemies” and further goes on to state that if the Democrats get their way, “the consequences will belong to them”. Mr. Reid’s “response”? ‘an attack dog has been let loose and it’s attacked me’. This is your response to this Mr. Reid? Let me ask you; were your testicles surgically removed, or did they never develop?

Dick Cheney’s statement is beyond outrageous. It’s the strict equivalent of a mass murderer blaming the parents of his own victims for their deaths. Bush and Cheney plunged this nation into war through willful deliberate fabrication of false evidence, through the suppression of exculpatory evidence, and are single handedly responsible for ANY outcome, whether they are in power or not. Their actions were not “misguided”, their actions were not “mistakes”, but as sure as the arsonist who puts the match to the gasoline puddle, their actions were deliberate crimes and the ultimate effect of those actions can belong to no one else; this is as outrageous as the aforementioned arsonist claiming city hall will be to blame if the out of control fire they started continues it’s destructive rampage as the arsonist insists upon directing the operations supposedly to put it out. It is THAT absurd, and yet here we have the Senate majority leader responding, nearly crying really, that he’s “being attacked”.

There came a point at which any failure to remove Bush/Cheney from command ceased being an option, and became an imperative, the failure of which to undertake to protect the Republic, became criminal. That day has twice passed; first under the criminally complicit GOP who lead the way into hell, and secondly, the second day that the so-called opposition party took power and not only failed to produce articles of impeachment, but actually refused to undertake it. This is criminal complicity. The motive does not have to be guessed at, for they have openly stated that they do not intend to pursue impeachment because they believe they can increase their political capitol and chances to win the White House in 2008. This is both treasonous conduct for the worst of motives, and dead wrong. The majority of the American people have never held much respect for the Democratic party; it took a disaster and crimes of the proportions generated by the Bush administration to finally return them to a majority party, unarguably on the sheer desperation of the American people’s unwillingness to endure the Bush administration and it’s ruinous actions and corruption another day. Note this Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi: If you believe you can drag this national nightmare out on the bodies of our children, to the continued decimation of our military, and endless death in Iraq and continued despair of the American people as you “increase your chances at the White House”, you are as delusional, corrupt, and criminal as Bush and Cheney are. The ONLY way you “own” the results in Iraq, is if you allow this to continue. You have, and at this point, if you fail to act, you will indeed own the outcome, for you will have endorsed Bush's actions by default.

This is to those who knew better and who KNOW better in congress, and yet who still stand by in silence and agreement with Pelosi’s outrageous and unconstitutional declaration that “impeachment is off the table”: Not only will I not vote for any of the Democrats who’ve refused to stand and to save us from this maggot, this traitor, but if you don’t act now and do what the Constitution requires you do with a rogue, criminal President, I am prepared to vote against EVERY Democrat, no matter who they are. I am prepared to punish every single one of you, even the better, along with the worse. You had better wake the fuck up and realize that Pelosi not only had no right to make that statement, but that you are going pay a very heavy price for allowing it to stand. I will not take part in this. If you do not stand and fulfill your constitutional obligations to this nation by removing George W. Bush and Dick Cheney from office, I will not participate rewarding you with either a majority in congress again, or the Presidency if I can help it. You had better start screaming and fighting tooth and nail, and soon. I would begin with voting for a new majority leader in both houses.

SUPPORT KUCINICH’S ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT OF CHENEY OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES FROM YOUR OWN PARTY IN 2008!!!





Authors Bio: Jay Esbe is a writer with a background in cultural anthropology and comparative religion and lives in Seattle Washington.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 01:36 PM
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1. Sadly, I Think They WANT Him in Power
Certainly a lot of elected Dems want Bush in the WH for the next election, hanging like a rotting albatross around the necks of Repubs.

Unfortunately, impeachment will have to come from the Repubs.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 01:38 PM
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2. I Would Hate to Think That Is the Strategy
But it would explain a lot.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 01:41 PM
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3. I couldn't read past the "testicles" bullshit, but I get the drift.
Has this man been in cave? Has he not seen the investigations, the subpoenas, the turning of Republicans against BushCo? What does he want? Pelosi can get Bush impeached, and then the Republicans in the Senate will clear him without strong evidence and public pressure. Reid and Pelosi and the rest of the Dems are building that evidence, and that public pressure.

People like this guy depress me. We should all be rallying behind the Dems to get as much momentum as we can. Instead he's pulling the other direction, criticizing Dems for not doing something they don't have the power to do. He's part of the problem, we need more people to be part of the solution.

And god damn it to fucking hell with the testicle references. Anyone who claims to be a liberal or progressive who uses "balls" or "testicles" or some other male anatomical reference needs to be... well, at least lectured. There's nothing about balls that makes a person courageous. We've had enough god damned balls in public office. We need brains, we need integrity, we need understanding, we need compassion, we need righteous rage and cynical indignation. But we don't need any more goddamned testicles.

um, sorry, I'm touchy about that...
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:02 PM
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7. too bad for you
"What does he want?"

It is very clear in the last line of the post:
SUPPORT KUCINICH’S ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT OF CHENEY OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES FROM YOUR OWN PARTY IN 2008!!!

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:40 PM
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8. yeah, that's what I got from it. Hence, my post.
Dude should quit whining and start encouraging.

I don't want some symbolic publicity stunt to derail true attempts to neutralize BushCo. No Republican is going to vote to remove Cheney on what Kucinich has, unless specific evidence emerges between now and some future fictitious impeachment trial. And Kucinich wouldn't have gotten this far if not for the works of Pelosi and Reid to set it up.

If we try to impeach before it's time, we blow it, and we lose the chance. Kucinich is all symbolism. He's made a lot of pretty speeches, but that's all I've seen from him (and I was shouting "Kucinich for President" before most people even new his name, and before he even thought about running). If he worked with people, with his intellect and integrity he'd get a lot done. Instead, he goes his own way, trying to jump from unremarkable Representative to President in one leap. If he truly wanted impeachment, he'd work with Pelosi, Reid, Conyers, Waxman, and the others working their asses off (some since before it was popular) to collect evidence to make it really happen. Instead, he uses it as a campaign stunt. I'm done with Kucinich. He's tugging in the opposite direction, too. It might make him stand out, but it certainly doesn't get anything done.

And I'm not happy with the slow pace of all this, either. But instead of threatening and whining about those trying to get things done, we should be behind them, pushing, helping, rather than complaining that they aren't achieving goals that they can't possibly achieve yet. Too much whining. We need more hard work.
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 04:02 PM
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10. I will respectfully disagree
Kucinich got to this point because voters nationwide handed majority control of the US House back to Democrats.

From my POV that happened, because the majority of people dislike the direction this country is going, whether it be Iraq, the overall economy, whatever reasons. The White House has failed to offer any real change of direction post-election. Pelosi specifically has said that impeachment is "off the table", so I can't see how that sets up any possible future impeachment.

With a Repbulicon majority, articles of Impeachment would have gone no where, certainly, but with a Democratic majority, they might get more serious consideration, based on the merits. Somebody has to take the first step in that direction, though, or nothing happens.

On losing the chance; depending on what happens in the New Hampshire state legislature, the impeachment process may also come from a second direction, so it isn't as though there is only one possible play.

To reiterate the original post, it isn't whining in my view, but pushing and helping in strongest terms. At the very least, Ms Pelosi ought to rethink her apparently intractable opposition to impeachment, which she espoused as recently as in her response to Kucinich's filing Articles of Impeachment. She did NOT say, "oh, too soon." She said it wasn't important.



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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:04 AM
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11. I will respectfully submit that you don't have the full picture.
First, Pelosi's "Impeachment is off the table" comment means the same as any other election year statement. Nothing. She said that so the election wouldn't be about impeachment, but about the failures of the Republicans. It was the correct strategy and it worked extremely well.

Second, Articles of Impeachment, which are introduced more often than people around here seem to remember, aren't going anywhere without clear evidence of one of the specific crimes mentioned in the Constitution. Even if every Dem got behind these articles, the Senate has plenty enough Republicans to prevent BushCo from being removed. It would be another symbolic gesture, would gain us nothing, and would lose us a lot of clout, and the possibility of actually impeaching them when we do get enough evidence.

Third, Conyers and Waxman aren't doing anything without Pelosi's approval. She's clearly working on impeaching Bush, but impeachment is one tool in her bag. Her main goal is to neutralize Bush's damage and begin to turn things around. Unlike Kucinich, who just wants it all at once, and doesn't want the work required to do it. Reid's job is to know which senators would vote for impeachment, and which wouldn't. If the numbers were there, this would already be done. They aren't. Kucinich knows this, too. Therefore he's all about publicity for his campaign.

Not to mention, what's the point of impeaching Cheney? Bush would still be president, he'd just appoint Cheney's successor. He might appoint Giuliani or McCain, and give them a boost going into 2008. Then the Senate would have to confirm or reject that appointment. If they rejected it, it would look like partisan politics to a lot of people, and we might lose even more ground going into 2008.

It's not that simple. Pelosi and Reid have been doing this a long time. They've started at the bottom and worked their way up by learning the ropes, and using their skills and talents. They know what they are doing. Kucinich has been in the House for ten years and has never moved anywhere. Who do you really think has the best chance of getting it done?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 01:42 PM
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4. I understand your frustration and do empathize,but
when all is said and done, it will have to be Republicans
who take action. It was Barry Goldwater and some Republican
powerhouses who approached Richard Nixon.

Something this serious has to have bi-partison efforts.

This is not to say you should stop what you are doing.
Rather, it is to say, to anyone try to understand
our Democratic Leaders can only do so much.

Keep at your cause, remain true to yourself.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 01:47 PM
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5. Good piece.
When will our leaders wake up?
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 01:52 PM
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6. Bush the Terrible
Worst all-time-everthing and he is still President.

Support Impeachment
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:56 PM
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9. Here's a weird sttaement that he makes
"The majority of the American people have never held much respect for the Democratic party;"

Huh? Was there no FDR? No JFK? Then Johnson, Then Carter, and finally Clinton for eight years.
(In poll after poll, had Clinton been allowed to run a third term, he would have won hands down in 2000.)

With the REAL count vote showing that Gore won in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.
What was he smokin' when he wrote this?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 01:47 PM
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12. K&R. (nt)
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 06:13 AM
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14. kick... excellent piece
:applause:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:12 PM
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13. Send the letter to them in multiple ways.
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