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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:20 PM
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Bush...Mars...and the tinfoilhatters....
:tinfoilhat: on and tight...

We all know about Bush's apparent interest in Mars, obviously
first going back to the Moon and then Mars...
Well, anyways...I found this little (major...) :tinfoilhat: article.
I find it very interesting that it was written BEFORE the major media
outlets even mentioned shrub's future announcement...

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/#010704

With this model in mind, the latest Mars picture would represent evidence that the 'game' - the deception - may be still continuing. Now let us recall the recent failure of the European Beagle 2 lander deployed by Mars Express, scheduled to land on Christmas Day. Beagle 2 would have been the first non-NASA probe to successfully land on the Red Planet and it would have given us first non-NASA pictures of Mars as seen from the surface. IF, there was/is a NASA conspiracy to keep the true color of Mars secret from the general public, then Beagle 2 represented a big threat to those behind the conspiracy for obvious reasons. This context makes us wonder about the true nature of the failure of the European lander, doesn't it?

But there is potentially an additional twist to the current situation - because the situation of the 'timetable' has likely changed at this time. In other words, it is now desired that the general public wants to go to Mars. As discussed repeatedly here on Etemenanki before, the 'endgame' now unfolding has much to do with man's invasion of the Red Planet, as indicated also by the global Time River system (marking the 21st century as the 'end of history' associated with Mars where the timeline of human civilization jumps/splits).

And even the neo-conservative agenda is heavily intertwined here... because in addition to their preemptive policy designed to remake the geopolitical landscape of the Middle East in order to maintain American supremacy, help Israel, get their hands on more oil, and create a global 'Pax Americana' empire, the neo-cons' agenda calls for American domination of space... militarily. The neo-con chickenhawk cult, which includes prominent figures in the Bush administration like Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Libby, Rumsfeld, etc., championed by Vice President Dick Cheney, want to militarize space.

This then brings us to the curious behind-the-scenes activities of Cheney who reportedly pushed for the release of Cydonia pictures some time ago, apparently for people like Hoagland and his followers. Why would he do this? The emerging theory is that the Cheney/neocon camp is trying to use the Cydonia issue (i.e. 'Face on Mars' etc.) as part of their covert propaganda campaign to generate public interest in going to Mars... and outer space in general. The catch here is of course that the neocon agenda is not about exploration, but exploitation and militarization. They want the US to go to outer space so that they can put weapons there - a big step toward the global domination of the US (New World Order) which would be by then resembling a fascist police state.


OK...have fun :D
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:29 PM
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1. This is a joke, right?
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 10:36 PM by pmbryant
Bush/Cheney don't need Mars to militarize space, they just need missile defense. And they have never expressed any interest in this kind of stuff anyway.

A 'NASA conspiracy to keep the true color of Mars secret from the general public'. LOL!!

All anyone has to do to see the true color of Mars is look up in the sky some night. Get a telescope if you want an even clearer view.

--Peter


EDIT: spelling
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:41 PM
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2. "Bush/Cheney don't need Mars to militarize space"...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 10:42 PM by rooboy
go and read the PNAC document "rebuilding America's defences". Militarization of space is there in black and white, and it goes beyond missile defence. They want offensive weapons stationed up there.

Mars is just an excuse to spend the money, just like WMD was an excuse to go into Iraq.

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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:47 PM
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3. All I can say....
is that there is something spooky about all this. Wow! Just so
happens that shrub is about to make a statement urging the US to
build a Moon station...and then head to Mars. Why? Because they're
worried that the Euros, Asians or even the Russians might get there
first. Hmmm...maybe Al Qaeda has a Moon base...right alongside
Dr Evil.

As for Mars' color...yeah, it shows up red...but that's the GROUND
that is reflecting...not the atmosphere.
Earth shows up blue because of the OCEANS...not the sky. That's
the point of this :tinfoilhat: "editorial".

And please do catch up on the PNAC material...its all right there.
Just like Mein Kampf...
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:59 PM
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4. The color of Mars' sky...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 11:03 PM by pmbryant
(EDIT: Took out first sentence because I think I misread what you were saying.)

I found this online article (link below) that describes the color of the Martian sky (apparently "butterscotch (yellow/brown)") as found by the Vikings and Pathfinder, and why that is so.

http://humbabe.arc.nasa.gov/mgcm/faq/sky.html

There is no conspiracy here.

I don't dispute that Bush/Rumsfeld et al have the militarization of space as a goal. I just dispute that these Mars probes have anything at all to do with that.

--Peter
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