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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:36 PM
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Waterboarding: Don't Ask. Don't Tell. SHOW.
Waterboarding: Don't Ask. Don't Tell. SHOW.
by Stephen Pizzo | Nov 3 2007




There seem to be folks on the right who remain unclear on the concept -- not the least among them, Attorney General nominee, Michael Mukasey.

The concept they can't seem to get a firm fix on is whether or not the interrogation technique known as "water-boarding," -- making a person think he or she is being drowned -- is or is not "torture."

I don't know about you, but it sure as hell sounds like torture to me. But there are still those in this administration and Congress who support the technique and claim it is not torture.

I have a solution.

But first let's see how humanity has chosen to describe something that does qualify as torture:

Websters: Torture is any action taken against another person that causes, "anguish of body or mind agony: something that causes agony or pain. Anguish: "extreme pain, distress, or anxiety."

The International Red Cross: Torture: existence of a specific purpose plus intentional infliction of severe suffering or pain;

MedTerms medical dictionary: Torture: An act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person, for a purpose such as obtaining information or a confession, punishment, intimidation or coercion..."


When asked during his confirmation hearings if water-boarding was torture, Mukasey said he couldn't really say, since he was not familiar with the details of the technique. Which is a kinda hard to swallow since the technique has been described in excruciating detail in the popular press since it first burst into the national consciousness a couple of years ago -- thanks to Vlad the Hoser at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

But all the publicity surrounding water-boarding seems to have left at least some public officials on the right unclear on whether it's torture or not torture. Some seem to feel that water-boarding is no more cruel than forcing a cat to take a bath.

Which is why I've concluded the only solution is to stop telling and start showing. And what better way to get a handle on the concept than for those who support the technique to step up to the plate and declare, "I say water-boarding is not a form of torture, as described by national and international law. And. to prove it I am submitting myself to the process."



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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:50 PM
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1. I still can't believe there's any question about this
But then we're dealing with Republicans here so...
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:04 PM
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2. I think that anyone who wants to approve its use
should first be subjected to the procedure.

That way they can make an informed decision.

:)
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:10 PM
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3. And administered by experienced experts
from either Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo. No half measures or special considerations allowed.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:01 PM
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4. Good thinking. Get it out on You Tube
And how long will it be before a couple of middle-schoolers try the technique on a third grader? Or some drunken frat boys drown a pledge?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:22 PM
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5. Not long. "Kids don't try this at home"
has never been effective.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:57 PM
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6. Bush cannot let his nominee agree that waterboarding is torture;
he might end up at the Hague.
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