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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:21 AM
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New High Tech Weapon to be used in Iraq! (microwave gun boils blood)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/18/wdenial118.xml

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/hi-tech-torture-by-rosemarie-jackowski-ads/


American commanders in Iraq are urging Pentagon chiefs to authorise the deployment of newly-developed heat wave guns to disperse angry crowds or violent rioters.


But the plea for what senior army officers believe could prove a valuable alternative to traditional firepower in dangerous trouble-spots has so far gone unanswered.

The ADS can target crowds from 750 metres away

Washington fears a barrage of adverse publicity in the suspicious Muslim world and is concerned that critics will claim the invisible beam weapons were being used for torture.

Now the US military directorate charged with developing non-lethal weapons, which has invested more than a decade developing the Active Denial System (ADS), has launched a concerted effort to convince both the public and its own bosses at the defence department of the device's merits.

"With brand new technology like this, perception is everything," said Col Kirk Hymes, a former Marine artillery officer who heads the directorate.

He added that tests were almost complete and the first ADS, also known as the Silent Guardian, could be deployed early next year if the Pentagon allows. The decision is so sensitive that it is expected to be made personally by the defence secretary, Robert Gates, who sent senior representatives to the demonstrations.

Raytheon, the company contracted to manufacture the prototype, has also received interest from several undisclosed European countries. The machine displayed last week cost about $10 million to build, but the directorate believes that the ADS can be put into production for $2-$5 million (£1-2.5 million) per device.

Col Hymes told observers at a demonstration that the system was a safe and effective alternative to plastic bullets, which can cause injury and sometimes death and are effective only up to 75 metres.

The heatwave weapon can, by contrast, target troublemakers from 750 metres. It works by dispatching high-powered radio waves from a vehicle antenna, similar to a satellite television dish, causing the molecules in a target's skin to vibrate violently, creating a burning sensation.

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"We are pretty good at shouting and intimidating people and we have been perfecting the art of lethal warfare since Cain and Abel," he said. "But in places like Iraq we are re-learning that we need a response in the spectrum between shouting and shooting. The ADS provides this."

But he added: "This is not something we want to roll out and deploy and surprise people. We know we need to educate the public."

In fact the development of the weapon only became public after the Sunshine Project - a Texas-based group that campaigns against biological and chemical weapons - pushed for disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act.


In pictures: The Telegraph's Philip Sherwell is zapped by a heat wave gun

The group's director, Edward Hammond, said: "If we are not prepared to use it as a crowd control technique on our own citizens, then we really shouldn't be using it in Iraq either."

Marc Garlasco, a former Pentagon intelligence officer who is senior military analyst for the Human Rights Watch campaign group, was among those invited to feel the device's impact at a recent demonstration.

He said: "If I had the option of being shot by a bullet or this, I would choose this - but still not enough is known about it. This is novel technology. We're talking about bringing science fiction into reality and it's critical to have open discussion."

He added: "People understand what happens when you get shot with a gun, but with the "pain-ray" there's still uncertainty. When it's used, the military is going to have to deal with a public backlash because I'm sure there will be claims of medical problems by the people it's been used upon, real or not."

"We are talking about young soldiers having this in their hands. If we upset the civilian population in Iraq, whether by killing, by torture or by misusing this, it will have a strategic effect on the US's ability to execute effective operations."

Col Hymes said that all ADS operators were given a six-week training course that covered sophisticated crowd control techniques as well as handling the technology.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/18/wdenial118.xml



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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:26 AM
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1. Of course
if the crowd accepts Jesus as their saviour, we'll stop boiling their blood.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:31 AM
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2. Hint that a weapons designer has ethics
The group's director, Edward Hammond, said: "If we are not prepared to use it as a crowd control technique on our own citizens, then we really shouldn't be using it in Iraq either."


Or, is good Mr. Hammond really trying to roll it out to each sherriff's dept instead.. if it's good enough for iraqis it's good enough for us?

I remember a story that acame out last April about a soldier (Airman 2nd class) who was hospitalized w/ 2nd degree burns all over his body after being a test target.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:33 AM
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3. If they think the taser is causing an uproar. Let them try this...
I dare the fuckers!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:24 PM
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7. All or nothing
Interesting. He's taking the chance that it could be marketed as a domestic local law enforcement tool.

I don't see that thing getting used in the US -- too indiscriminate (we don't have any problem at all using even lethal weapons indiscriminately on Iraqis).
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:38 AM
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4. Bio-electromagnetic Weapons
Bio-electromagnetic Weapons: The ultimate weapon

by Institute of Science in Society

A weapon system that operates at the speed of light, that can kill, torture, enslave and escape detection, Harlan Girard

A fully referenced version of this article is posted on ISIS members' website.

The ultimate weapon

Electromagnetic weapons operate at the speed of light; they can kill, torture and enslave; but the public are largely unaware that they exist, because these weapons operate by stealth and leave no physical evidence. Electromagnetic weapons have been tested on human beings since 1976. By widely dispersing the involuntary human test-subjects, and vehemently attacking their credibility, it has been possible for the United States to proceed with these human experiments unhindered by discussions or criticisms, let alone opposition.

This ultimate weapon system is currently being deployed in Iraq. The US Air Force and the Marine Corps refer to it as "active denial technology", as if it were used purely for defense, but it is not (see Box 1).

Box 1

The truth about "active denial technology"

There is only one electromagnetic spectrum. Nuclear weapons release a great deal of ionizing radiation in the high frequency range above visible light, where the energy of the radiation is capable of breaking chemical bonds. Ionizing radiation is generally acknowledged to cause cancer.

The US military has weaponized the non-ionizing radiation below the visible range, the microwaves and radio waves that are used in mobile phones and telecommunications. The US government has strenuously denied that there could be health hazards from non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation, both as a defence of the involuntary human research it has been conducting for many years but has not yet acknowledged, and to dissuade other countries from developing similar weapons.

The only biological effect of non-ionizing radiation that the US government has acknowledged for many years is heating, and accordingly, it characterizes "active denial technology" as that which produces pain from sudden heating of the skin; but this is not how it really works.

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Reno.Muse Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 11:12 AM
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5. sick feckers
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 11:43 AM
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6. Name was changed from "Agony-Inducing BloodBoiler" to "Silent Guardian"
after focus group testing.
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CRH Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:47 PM
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8. I think it should first be tested on the entire US congress, then they can vote for approval.
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CRH Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 01:06 PM
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9. I wonder why they didn't worry about public perception, ...
when they rolled out depleted uranium (DU), during the first Gulf War, during the Balkans crusade, and the second Gulf War. Much of this was used in neighborhoods of unsuspecting civilian populations, and has been proven to be the gift that keeps on giving, i.e., radiation sickness to the unsuspecting, for many millenniums to come.

I wonder what is, the US public perception, of their amoral US military; the political prick of their patriotic societal aggression, upon others?
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