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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:11 PM
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Why did Gore abandon us?
The entire planet knows that if Al Gore had run for president in 2008 it would have been a slam dunk. So why didn't he do it considering the very life of western civilization is at stake as well as the ongoing Bush/Republican rape of Mother Nature, affecting polar bears, ozone holes, global warming, melting icebergs, fossil fuel poisoning, the trashing of what's left of environmental protection laws, and on and on to the certain death of our children's environmental future?

Yes, the man has his personal priorities and all that, but there may be literally no time in western history when it was so LIFE AND DEATH that an individual stand up and be counted as Al Gore and 2008 . . . and he's taken a pass. Boy, has he ever taken a pass.

Has his life been threatened? Certainly, a possibility. More egocentrically, he is elite, after all, Democratic Party notwithstanding. Politics has NOTHING to do with the elites, and maybe he just doesn't want to let go of that high class international elite existence.

Bottom line, who knows, but I hope he realizes down to his quarks that he could have been the man of the century, perhaps even the millennia and he flipped it all off.

Al, we needed you like something to grab onto when you're drowning and going down for the 3rd time. We needed you like we needed someone to dash into the street to rescue our child from a racing car. We needed you like someone to give the country an antidote to anthrax. We needed you like a veritable mythological hero of yore. NEVER has an American been so needed. Maybe only George Washington was similarly needed, except that George was needed at the beginning of America; whereas you were/are needed at the "end" of America.

Why did you abandon us? Please don't tell us it was a gesture to the, God forbid, Clinton's? Frankly, who gives a rat’s ass about your fancy film work and stolen year 2000 election? Bless you for all that and for other contributions, large and small, but THIS event (the year 2008 presidential election) is 10,000 times more important and necessary than all the rest of those things put together and you turned your back on us. You turned your back on America.

Look what you've left us with. The very real possibility of Bush clones like Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Obama is a textbook lesser of the evils, but the sleazy Clinton's will almost certainly find some way to weasel him out of the running. Everyone knows the Clinton's and the DLC will do (and are doing) everything possible to steal the primaries, just like Bush did in the year 2000 presidential election, so you sure didn't leave us much!

Some folks will think this post is unfair and Godspeed to their views. After all, you did fight the good fight in many ways during the last few years, but, you know, for many of us that doesn't mean squat.
When someone you love is dying (like our beloved country is dying!) and there's someone around who could absolutely SAVE that person (or country), it's impossible not to not to feel heartbreak and rage when the would be "savior" opts to jet to the Bahamas.

So, enjoy your fun, fun, fun choice, Gore. We will never forget you, but millions of us will never again respect you for abandoning America and the Earth to the filth incarnate, Bush neo-Nazis.
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W. Christopher Epler (Bill)

<http://theliberationofrealism.blogspot.com/>
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:12 PM
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1. AL Gore is watching, and will have an impact before this is all over.
I promise you I am right on that.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:14 PM
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2. From your keyboard to Goddess's eyes!
Oh please! Oh please! Oh please!

We are self-destructing!
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:21 PM
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4. One cannot ignore what's going on right now. I think people are tired of
the politics of the robber barons.
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ClarkBayh 2008 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:33 PM
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25. Gore's Phone Number in TENN
is 615.327.2227.

I would urge every rational Democrat (not those swept up in rhetoric, good feeling or anything but a true interest in seeing the party win & win united in November), to flood this office w/ phone calls.

Since the DNC won't step in, the only way to address this nomination mess is for party elders, realists & responsible people to draft Gore now to appear as a write in on the PA ballot.

Otherwise, it's going to be a political bloodbath. That number again, is 615.327.2227.
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:06 AM
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21. I could see him speaking at the Convention, maybe do some
very light campaigning once a Dem nominee has been determined. I don't think he wants any part of this now though.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:18 PM
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3. ...
:eyes:
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:21 PM
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5. Because he doesn't like you.
Why should he????
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:27 PM
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6. Maybe because WE abandoned him in 2000
The people who voted for Nader because "Gore and Bush were alike".

The people who urged Al Gore to quit fighting the selection results and move on.

The Senate, his fellows, none of whom spoke up to challenge the Florida electoral slate.

The writers, like Jake Tapper and Jeffrey Toobin, who wrote books after the 2000 election mocking every step Gore took to try and get votes counted.

The people who insist on complaining Gore only tried to recount four counties when within Florida rules, that's what he had to do.

The people who look back at 1992-2000 as a co-presidency of Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, as if Bill never existed.

The people who complain that the 2000 election results were his fault because he "couldn't even carry his own state".

America, with a short attention span, who couldn't wait a month to find out election returns.


I'm sure others can add to this list.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:32 PM
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7. Al Gore lost to the dumbest man ever to run for the office
Imagine him against a real candidate like McCain. Gore would get slaughtered.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:37 AM
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16. A real candidate? Batshit crazy McCain?
Gore would get slaughtered?

I just don't fucking get it.

I have to leave this site for a while. I can't stand watching this place circle jerk over a republican.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:43 AM
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22. Gore didn't lose. Gore wouldn't get slaughtered. What is your
real 'agenda' here. I watch your posts sometimes and I realize there's something strange going on. What is the deal?

And try to answer honestly, if you can.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:27 PM
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24. Bowens never answers, just the usual drive by shooting, that's the only line he/she knows.
Good luck with getting a reply or debate.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:32 PM
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26. I know. I asked just to point out that this poster is something more
than the average DUer. He/she has an agenda.

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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:48 PM
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8. Maybe because he doesn't want the cause of global warming to be swiftboated

Or, maybe he knows the system has to break before it can be fixed

Or, maybe he is hates politics and the nastiness of people wanting to destroy your every good intention.

He doesn't owe us a thing. We may owe him the world.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:52 PM
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9. didya notice?
the local tv had the news about the Fed rescuing Bear Stearn(sp), with these 2 little gems included for our consumption 1) the bush admin ie the fed gov, told the financial community 'you're on your own' etc because, the inference is, ' us conservative governments don't believe in interfering with the workings of capitalist economies, so use yer bootstraps' etc, and then 2) the Federal reserve has decided to help BS with a '$30 billion' package, and bush has blessed the move despite his normal inclinations....bobloblaw
First, regarding #1, bush has created the calamity we're in by throwing out all regulations, and this was after he stole the 2k election, with the vital help of the oh so helpful pigmedia. As far as #2 goes, the newsreader forgot to mention that the Fed threw in $200 billion just a few days ago, so this $30 billion today isn't a stand alone (though that was the impression)
What is the meaning of this? (and i just happened upon your post, just got home etc, and put tv on, and the news item referred to was on, so it's not as if I'm seeking around to pick out items for this reply; the entire newsmedia is 'low hanging fruit' in effect-literally anything about the money markets could be pressed into service as an example of financial newsmedia perfidity ie lying, or dishonesty!) It means that criminals are running the show. Gore obviously knows what's going on- i've no doubt his loved ones have been casually threatened, and ...well in the Wizard/Oz it was the 'man behind the curtain' who conducted affairs out in the world, but...after all we've seen, it looks like not only is the 'man' behind the curtain, but so is everything else except what mr pig wants the herd to see, to soak up in the cute spongy way the herd has. We are beneath contempt, iow. Thus Gore is 'operating' behind the curtain too, if indeed he's trying anything. If it was out in front, it would be farce, because the pigmedia would have to be sponsoring it, and the pigmedia are ...the enemy
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:04 PM
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10. Do not demean the possibly only statesman left alive. I will tell you
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 07:05 PM by MasonJar
one thing that I abhor and that is that the fools swarmed out of DC to Florida to intimidate the vote counters from the Pug side, but Gore was fighting alone. Did we see any of us down there countering the crime family? NO!!!!!!!!!And that is a resounding no! Al Gore is a great man, who is trying to save the world. He has given speech after speech against Bush and his cabal. He has written a superior expose of the Bushistas and their effect on the world. He has traveled endless miles to tell the world about global warming. He has donated the proceeds of his movie and his books to causes which benefit all of us. George Bush was not elected. Gore did not lose. Never forget it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:08 PM
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11. he probably just could not stomach it any more
really
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:15 PM
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12. If you think Clinton is a Bush clone, you have worse problems than
the rest of that whining rant.
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:11 PM
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13. You ask the right question. Then give a stupid answer.
Think about it.

Why isn't he running?

Do you think it's ego?

Maybe he knows what sort of a grinder they'd put him through. Maybe he thought Edwards would do the job. There's a million reasons that don't require he be insulted.

Why not ponder a few of those before you rant?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:41 PM
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14. What an ungrateful arrogant crock
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 09:42 PM by RestoreGore
THE PLANET IS MORE IMPORTANT than this BS political ratrace. Al Gore has not abandoned us. He is HERE, working every day for this planet to make it a better place for all of us. You think that is 'fun?' Unfortunately, so many are so obsessed with their own wants and needs they can't see that. Al Gore was also here in our Congress and the WH for a collective sum of 25 YEARS. To think he has abandoned us now is simply unfair to him. The state of this country is OUR doing.
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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:10 AM
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18. if only, if only
His planet work is noble to be sure. To tell you the truth, I had many, many second thoughts writing this piece since I still profoundly respect the man. I think mostly I was just terribly disappointed that he didn't run since I think it would have been a slam dunk and we so desperately need a man like him for president. In any case, I was profoundly in two minds about this piece and I learned much from the responses (albeit not all friendly).

Bill
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:07 PM
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15. wcepler
wcepler

Or, was it US who abandon HIM, in 2000 when he was running for President?.. Was it the american public, who was given a moron, a man with no knowledge about the world outside of his own country. And who as Governor in Texas have acted, stupid, arrogant, and not very kind...

Can it be, that mr Gore Know his audience better than the american public do?. And understand that the US given the chance between a educated, and good vice-president, would manage to shoos a moron as their next President, the american public elected the last capable man as their president... And that is not the first time the US public have given into this type of thing before either..

NO i DON'T believe that US are dying, not by far. But I fear that US are into some Right year before the country are in the other side... I fear that it will take a lot of courage, a lot of hard work, and it wile cost the american public a lot, before the water is slowing down, and you can start to take it more easy...

Mr Gore maybe even bid his time, to tell if he wanted to try to be elected as President.. And this time. After mr Bush we would just pray, and hope we on the outside that US was voting for the right candidate this time around..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:38 AM
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17. Because if he went after the criminals that "served" before him...
...it would be seen as revenge instead of justice. Although I don't think either of the two left in the primary will do the right thing and prosecute Bush and Cheney. If by some miracle they do step up and do the right thing the right is going to spin it as retribution anyway. Too bad, sometime doing what's right is difficult.
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 09:58 AM
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19. Abandon is the wrong word for someone still very involved
Since 2000, he has less distractions, much less scrutiny, fewer things like campaigning defending himself as often and the basic hustle of being a politican than he ever had before.
He tried for basically his whole career to advance a more green agenda than his Senatorial colleagues, and found he can be MORE effective outside politics. And get recognition for his work - film awards, Nobel prize.

Years of Newt and The Hammer killing every good thing you try will take its toll. Most politicians who endured what he did would sulk away and not be heard from again, or become a lobbyist, corporate board member, lecture circuit regurgitator. He did not, and fights for something he believes in beyond his pals and his wallet (though his movie/book was successful, it was not a no-brainer moneymaker.)
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:04 AM
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20. Slam dunk?
You must assume that Hillary Clinton would have stepped aside if he had announced. Al Gore probably knew better than anyone obviously what Hillary Clinton was and is capable of. And proably decided he really didn't need it in his life. Neither did any of the rest of us.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:48 AM
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23. We abandoned Gore when we let Bush take the pResidency from him. nt
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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 04:13 PM
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27. much food for thought
Lots of responses to this piece from which I learned much. For the record, it was generally agreed with on other sites, but I confess this was a piece I wrote with much indecision. I still respect Gore profoundly for his environmental activities, it's just that he seemed to have the 2008 presidency in his back pocket and then threw it away. Maybe I'm exaggerating the slam dunk (wishful thinking?). I'm sorry if the feeling of disappointment didn't come through strongly, since criticism was not the theme (although I have learned much that gives me pause about Gore I didn't know before).

Also, it is really a moot subject since (for myself) I want to stay on point of President Obama!

Solidarity, Bill

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 11:01 PM
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28. Well, I would not put the way you do in this piece.
He already ran once, and got it stolen from under him. He said this time around that he thought he could do more good on the outside. While I would like to see him finally serve the term he was elected to, I respect his views on the matter, and it is far from true that there is nobody else for the job.
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