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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:45 PM
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U.S. knew Georgia trouble was coming, but couldn't stop it
By Jonathan S. Landay | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON — Bush administration officials, worried by what they saw as a series of provocative Russian actions, repeatedly warned Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili to avoid giving the Kremlin an excuse to intervene in his country militarily, U.S. officials said Monday.

But in the end, the warnings failed to stop the Georgian president — a Bush favorite — from launching an attack last week that on Monday seemed likely to end not only in his country’s military humiliation but complete occupation by Russian forces.

The cost of the fighting in lives has yet to be tallied. But President Bush on Monday made it clear that the outcome was sure to mark a turning point in Russia’s relations with the West. It might also prove costly for the West’s relationship with the budding democracies of Eastern Europe, which now must contemplate a world where the United States could do little to protect a close ally in the face of a determined Russian onslaught.

"Russia has invaded a sovereign neighboring state and threatens a democratic government elected by its people," President Bush proclaimed after returning from China. "Such an action is unacceptable in the 21st century."

"These actions jeopardize Russia's relations with the United States and Europe," Bush said. "It's time for Russia to be true to its word to act to end this crisis."

Pentagon officials said that despite having 130 trainers assigned to Georgia, they had no advance notice of Georgia’s sudden move last Thursday to send thousands of Georgian troops into South Ossetia to capture that province's capital, Tskhinvali.
To read the entire article: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/47631.html
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:47 PM
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1. Who would ever invade a sovereign nation?
Oh, yeah. That's right.

Silly me...............
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:40 AM
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6. Who Needs An Excuse?
The Boy George didn't.
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Andy Canuck Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:45 AM
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8. He needed an excuse
so he made one up.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:50 PM
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2. Bush is a shitty poker player
He's tipped his hand so many times in the past that nobody is buying his bluff anymore.

And he's naive enough to think that his opinion really matters to anyone.

Plus he's getting really lousy advice from that renowned expert on all things Russian, Condom Sleezy Rice.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:22 PM
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12. He's terrific at "beggar my neighbour".
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 03:24 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:03 PM
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3. Yeah, ha ha, let the butt-covering begin. Again. nt
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:54 PM
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4. It's official - no one listens to Stupid on any subject
No moral authority, no intelligence, no gravitas. He's the weakest man ever to live in the WH
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:41 PM
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5. Why does this sound like spin after the fact?
I find it hard to believe our client state would have undertaken such an action if we'd told them to desist.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:42 AM
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7. Maybe We Didn't Pay Our Bills
or maybe Putin made us a better offer.

Slime. The BFEE is pure slime.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:26 PM
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14. YOU ARE CORRECT SIR YES! Gorbachev (can't spell) issued a statement
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 03:26 PM by Heather MC
Saying Georgia believed they would have support from the WEST
AKA the good ple US of A
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:00 AM
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9. Considering what the attack and subsequent pipeline shutdown will do to oil prices...
...are we at all sure that Shrub didn't actually encourage Saakashvili to be openly provocative?
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:43 PM
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10. and for that matter...
it seems to me that having "Russian aggression" to point to helps their efforts to revive the lucrative Cold War. It's harder to sell missile defense boondoggles when the foe is "Islamofascism" than when it's the well-known "Russkies."
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:18 PM
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11. An American commentator said on our news this evening in the UK, that
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 03:21 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Obama has been warning about it for a while now, urging that appropriate discussions should be initiated/represntations made on the subject, with the parties concerned. Something along those lines. Dealing with it while there was time and the opportunity. He cited three or four occasions.

Of course, beyond a certain "tipping point", attitudes harden on all sides, and all future diplomacy can be jeopardised.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 05:08 PM
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15. That's news in the US
Even on this board it's hard to get any hard factual info on Obama positions.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 05:13 PM
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16. Well, I hope he gets out the news himself whenever he can.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:25 PM
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13. Couldn't "stop it?"
America PROVOKED IT- and now they're trying to pass long this shallow spin?



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