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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:31 AM
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Mysterious Prison Buses in the Desert

Prison buses are driving around empty in the Tucson area. Are Wackenhut and the DHS preparing for civil unrest?

On a recent visit to Tucson, where I was invited to give a presentation on monetary reform, I was disturbed by a story of strange goings on in the desert. A little over a year ago, it seems, a new industrial facility sprang up on the edge of town. It was in a remote industrial zone and appeared to be a bus depot. The new enterprise was surrounded by an imposing security fence and bore no outward signs identifying its services. However, it soon became apparent that the compound was in the business of outfitting a fleet of prison buses. Thirty or so secondhand city buses were being reconfigured with prison bars in the windows and a coat of fresh paint bearing the “Wackenhut G4S” logo on the side.

The new Wackenhut operation is shrouded in mystery. It has been running its fleet of empty prison buses night and day, apparently logging miles on a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) contract. Multiple buses can be seen driving all over town and even on remote desert back roads. Oddly, except for the driver and one escort guard seated in front, these buses are always empty. Wackenhut Services was founded by George Wackenhut in 1954 to provide prison guard services to state and federal governments. Mr. Wackenhut was reported to be something of a brawler himself, having once earned distinction beating up his business partner in a fist fight. Now owned by the Danish corporation G4S, Wackenhut Services has a sinister reputation for hiring thugs. It has been said that it’s hard to tell which is more dangerous, the prisoners or the guards.

Observers originally thought that the purpose of the new Wackenhut operation was to outfit prison buses to be distributed in other parts of the country. But it soon became apparent that none of the buses was leaving the Tucson depot. Recently, a passerby observed what appeared to be a training operation there. In what seemed to be strange activity for 10:30 PM on a Saturday night, the depot yard was fully illuminated, the entire fleet of buses was up and running, and drivers and guards were scrambling around the yard. The question is, what were they training for? Wackenhut has never officially announced itself to the community, and the local news media have never mentioned its presence. Hiring has been discreetly conducted via the Internet, and an apathetic general public has taken little notice.


http://www.opednews.com/articles/MYSTERIOUS-PRISON-BUSES-IN-by-Ellen-Brown-090122-266.html
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:35 AM
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1. They're probably being paid by the mile
Probably on one of Darth Cheneys no bid contracts!
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:37 AM
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2. No, they're just wasting fuel, waiting for instructions on where to go.
Just like the New Orleans bound ice that was driven around in refrigerated trucks for months after Hurricane Katrina. They didn't know where to take it.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:52 AM
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4. Yeah, the tourist ice - got to ride in a huge circle all over the estern portion of the U.S.
Way to go, ice.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:50 AM
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3. Please read the entire article. I confirms what people have been posting on DU
as if we needed to be confirmed. Read it. File it.

Then, as a side point, think about how to bradcast this.

The secret leaders are no longer in power - or are the?
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:14 AM
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5. "secret leaders are no longer in power - or are they?" . . .
brings up an interesting question . . . does Obama know about things like these buses and the prison complex and all the detention camps that KBR has been building? . . . if so, does he intend to do anything about it? . . . and if not, how do we get him informed? . . .

remember that there are a LOT of BushCo leftovers still running parts of the government . . . no telling what kind of mischief they could get into before they're told to pack their bags . . .
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Bu Megdi Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:24 AM
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6. True.
Mysterious indeed.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:48 AM
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7. No mystery here. Just another piece to the fascist takeover puzzle. As the rest of the
article points out, the upcoming economic stresses on our society will very likely lead to massive civil unrest. People who are starving and losing their jobs and homes generally have little respect for government homilies about being patient and waiting for the economic recovery.

Everyone who thinks this is tinfoil hat stuff should remember the massive prison/internment camp building projects in out-of-the-way rural areas of our country. They may have been built during the Bush years but they can still be used by our current government when things turn nasty.

If the economic collapse continues, does anyone really think that citizens are going to be forgiving of the multi-trillion dollar giveaway to the financial elites that has been overseen by our "elected representatives"? Does anyone think that the Americans who are suffering the most, and that will be a LOT of US, will harbor any goodwill toward the rulers who have let this travesty occur?

I realize that the corporate media can keep folks placated for a long time with the "bread and circus" programming that permeates the airwaves. But when the bread runs out it's going to get ugly.

What few of us want to face up to is the possibility that our wonderful new President may not be able to stem the tide of this financial/economic disaster and that he will simply have to contain the damage as the worst happens. That's his job as chief executive, after all.

I'm hoping that President Obama and the Congress can make substantive changes to our government's way of doing business, but it could be too little, too late.

So all you unemployed liberals, defiant radicals, and unrepentant rabble-rousers out there had better keep a bag packed in case you have to take an unanticipated bus ride. On second thought, we probably won't be allowed to bring the bag with us.

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:24 PM
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14. They expected to keep winning elections and would need this place, but,
they lost and now we wont need them as Obama will get Americans back to work with his new stimulus plan.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:37 PM
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15. Rainy, I hope you're right. I really do.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:50 AM
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8. Surely Janet Napolitano knows about this.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:00 PM
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12. What is strange is it's only 30 buses. That's barely a large enough fleet
to transport a large high school, what, maybe 3000 people?

They are probably doing it to for "training" purposes of prisoner transport drivers, and charging an arm-and-a-leg per mile to DHS, hence the seemingly purposeless driving around the desert. That way no one can accuse them of violating the contract.

It's probably just a pork contract. A legacy of Bush's administration.

I don't see anything sinister in this story other than more wasted taxpayer dollars.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 04:53 PM
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16. Perhaps. It is possible there is something sinister going on but you're right, mostly just
corrupt, not sinister. Still, I hope Secretary Napolitano will put an end to this crap. DHS has undoubtedly stolen more than they have spent on secruity and we need big time changes in that department.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 01:21 PM
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9. Wisht I woulda been smart enough to get one of them cost-plus, no-bid contracts from the Dickster.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:01 PM
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13. Exactly. They probably get paid cost-plus after driving those buses
into the ground (probably don't put fresh oil in the engines).
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:11 PM
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10. They're closing Guantanamo - gotta put em someplace right? n/t
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:47 PM
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11. Prepping for Business Plot 2.0?
I'm sure somebody's thinking it.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 06:41 PM
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17. The ICE facility in Florence
Undocumented persons are not simply put on a bus and sent back across "the border." They have to be "processed." The facility in Florence (http://www.ice.gov/pi/dro/facilities/florence.htm) is where they're held during processing.

Author Brown strikes me as a bit of a (libertarian :tinfoilhat:) nutcase. Just MHO, of course.
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