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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:50 PM
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Israel's chief rabbinate severs Vatican ties
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 04:40 PM by RJ Connors
Now here is an an interesting article that I'm not quite sure what to make of it.

Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D960BMO80&show_article=1

Israel's chief rabbinate servers Vatican ties

JERUSALEM (AP) - Israel's chief rabbinate severed ties with the Vatican on Wednesday to protest a papal decision to reinstate a bishop who publicly denied 6 million Jews were killed during the Holocaust.
The Jewish state's highest religious authority sent a letter to the Holy See expressing "sorrow and pain" at the papal decision. "It will be very difficult for the chief rabbinate of Israel to continue its dialogue with the Vatican as before," the letter said. Chief rabbis of both the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews were parties to the letter.

The rabbinate, which faxed a copy of the letter to The Associated Press, also canceled a meeting with the Vatican set for March. The rabbinate and the state of Israel have separate ties with the Vatican, and Wednesday's move does not affect state relations.

Pope Benedict XVI, faced with an uproar over the bishop, said Wednesday he feels "full and indisputable solidarity" with Jews and warned against any denial of the full horror of the Nazi genocide.

The remarks were his first public comments on the issue since the controversy erupted Saturday.

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the Vatican hoped that in light of the pope's words, "the difficulties expressed by the Israeli Rabbinate can be subjected to further and deeper reflection."

Lombardi expressed hope that dialogue between the two parties can continue "fruitfully and serenely."

Oded Weiner, the director general of the chief rabbinate's office, welcomed the pope's remarks, calling them "a big step toward reconciliation."

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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:55 PM
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1. But, but, the Pope just pledged solidarity!
January 28, 2009

Pope pledge solidarity with world's Jews

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


VATICAN CITY - Pope Benedict says he feels "full and indisputable solidarity" with the world's Jews and warns against any denial of the full horror of the Holocaust.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2009/01/28/8175571-ap.html



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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:00 PM
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3. He must have known of this reaction - it was inevitable.
What did he expect when he reinstated the guy?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 02:49 PM
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9. That he was helping to resolve a schism and allow
some Catholics to return to the fold, based upon their adherence to church doctrine.

It was an internal matter. Acceptance of a historical fact is not a religious doctrine, and if somebody is going to take communion, for instance, the Holocaust isn't in the catechism.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:57 PM
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2. I did that years ago and I'm Catholic. This Pope is a real problem....n/t
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:03 PM
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4. That Does Seem To Be True, Ma'am
The Cardinals made a stunningly poor choice this time.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:22 PM
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5. When I saw him wearing those Pradas I knew we were in big trouble....n/t
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:56 PM
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6. That's funny. But regardless of what it was that tipped you off, it was
right on the money. I cannot understand this guy. I mean ever for the Catholic Church, he's a real pistol. (I'm a Catholic school educated 'lapsed' Catholic myself.)
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:36 PM
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8. He has an enormous ego, loves to be a little outrageous to get the
attention (note the Pradas again). The Cardinals are not amused I'm sure.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:20 PM
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7. Same here. Maladict is as regressive as they come. nt
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 03:46 PM
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10. I'll bet that's just what the old Nazi was hoping for.
I can suggest a place he can put that miter... :hurts:
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:00 AM
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11. The Church's criticism of Israel's actions in Gaza probably don't help

JPII opened up dialogue with the Muslims, and Ratzinger has continued that tradition. I'm not saying the reinstatement of the Bishop in question wasn't a factor, but there's probably more going on here that meets the eye.

Remember that there's also gamesmanship and politicking with this sort of thing. Always has been with the Vatican and Israel. Did you know that Golda Meir called Pius XII "a shining beacon" (or words to that effect, for the Jewish people? Yes, that Pius XII. Words and gamesmanship, it's been going on for a long time.
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