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laststeamtrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 01:25 PM Original message |
For 64th Anniversary: The Great Hiroshima Cover-Up -- And the Nuclear Fallout for All of Us Today |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks to FDR who ordered the project, to Truman who ordered the bomb be dropped and all who |
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lib_wit_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. If we hadn't used it then, we would have used it later. We had to see what it did to know how |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Consider "The Invasion That Didn’t Happen" link below. |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Or read the work of real historians |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Or talk person to person with some of the people involved. n/t |
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lib_wit_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I can't discern your position from that--involved on which side? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Both. n/t |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. The principals are all dead |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I know "The principals are all dead". n/t |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. As has been pointed out on numerous other threads... |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I guess that should justify it. The war was going to end without it. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. And it ended without people I know who were in theater or en-route having to invade Japan. n/t |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. Doesn't this make it all better |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. Hiroshima footage should be shown back-to-back with footage of the Rape of Nanking. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Some ignore the Japanese troops tossing babies in the air to catch on their bayonets in Nanking. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. And that justifies the dropping of Atomic Weapons on Japan? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. No, it proves the Japanese military was ruthlessly immoral and willing to fight to the death |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. And some ignore the American POWs vaporized by the A-bomb dropped on Hiroshima |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Good question re size of the three plants. It could be that no one had a good estimate of output |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Yeah, we were looking to be leaders in the post-war age. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Except that freedom and democracy were mere slogans on our part |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Depends on how you look at it. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Yes. nt |
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Syntheto (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. The main point in deliberations were... |
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Lost Jaguar (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. I've been researching... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. My father was readying for deployment to Japan, after fighting in Europe. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. See "4. Consider "The Invasion That Didn’t Happen" post above. n/t |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R |
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