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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 07:21 AM
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All Are Responsible (re: climate change deniers)
All Are Responsible
(slacktivist, February 14, 2010)

Snowfall in America brings with it, inevitably, a blizzard of "jokes" about the alleged absurdity of global warming. All of these jokes have two things in common: 1) they mention Al Gore, and 2) they're not actually funny.

Being funny isn't the point of these jokes, so it's not surprising that they fail to achieve funniness. What is surprising, though, is that so many people feel compelled to tell "jokes" that aren't actually jokes -- jokes that neither attempt nor achieve funniness. What is the point of such "jokes"? They're like cars without wheels -- why on earth would anyone bother making such a thing?

I have a theory. This is just speculation, and I might be wrong. But then again, I might be right.

The great philosopher and activist Abraham Joshua Heschel said, "Few are guilty; all are responsible."

The author goes on from here to lay out an interesting theory about why climate-change deniers are so vehement in their false claims. Worth a read!
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 07:57 AM
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1. Frank Luntz
Edited on Sun Feb-14-10 07:59 AM by 90-percent
Luntz is the Republican propagandist that was on the ground floor of climate change denial.

I hope he goes down in history as the Father of climate change denial. I hope he is considered the Benedict Arnold of Climate Change.

I hope someone in the future measures the damage he has wrought upon the world, as I think the magnitude of climate change denial will make life on earth downright horrible in the next 20 or 30 years!

Guys like Hitler and Stalin had great militaries. Luntz wrought more damage than those two combined and did it without firing a shot!

-90% jimmy
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 08:32 AM
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2. I think its more that the issue of GW/CC goes against key aspects of right-wing ideology..
such as free-market, un-regulated capitalism and consumerism.
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tsps1977 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:08 AM
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3. Climate change
Most climate change "deniers"-great way to link it to holocaust deniers- simply want a large amount of questions answered first. in 2005 I was told that Florida was gonna be obliterated by storms forever due to global warming. one major storm in the atlantic region that hit America in 4 years now. I was told that DC would not see snow like it did in the 30's. Now we have 4 ft. If global warming is science why is it so poor at predicting things? Also when I hear on the news from a "scientist" that globalwarming explains warm weather in Vancouver and snow in FL at the same time you must have alot of faith in global warming cause there is a huge lack of logic with that statement. Finally I went to ESF in Syracuse for college and when you do a proper temperature analysis of the Earth over the past 5000 years now is not the warmest period in Earths history.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 12:33 PM
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4. "I was told"??? Who told you? Because someone told you doesn't mean the climate scientists are
wrong. Just like the old chestnut that the rightwingers put out time and time again that the climate scientists were predicting an ice age back it the 1970's. In fact there was no such consensus among climate scientists.

It is in fact possible for warmer weather in Vancouver and more snow in the Florida panhandle to both be caused by global warming. It doesn't make sense to you because you don't have an understanding of the complexity of weather and how it is affected by warmer ocean temperatures. But that doesn't mean there is a "huge lack of logic." It just means that you don't understand it.

And so what if this is not the warmest period in the Earth's history? Who said it was? That is neither here nor there as to whether global warming is happening now and what is causing it.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 12:38 PM
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5. The temperature of the oceans is 1-2 degrees warmer=more evaporation.
That is an undeniable truth.
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