Michael Winship | Two Legal Foes Unite to Fight for Same-Sex Marriage

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Michael Winship | Two Legal Foes Unite to Fight for Same-Sex Marriage

Saturday 27 February 2010

by: Michael Winship, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

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My colleague Bill Moyers spoke with David Boies and Ted Olson on the current edition of public television's Bill Moyers Journal. He asked them why they had united in the Proposition 8 case. Boies said, "One of the things we have in common on this issue is respect for the rule of law, respect for civil rights, respect for the Constitution.... It's not a Republican or Democratic issue. Conservatives and liberals alike want to keep the government out of our personal conduct - want to keep the government out of the bedroom."

"We're not advocating any recognition of a new right," Ted Olson said. "The right to marry is in the Constitution. The Supreme Court has recognized that over and over again. We're talking about whether two individuals should be treated equally under the equal rights protection clause of the Constitution - the same thing the Supreme Court did in 1967, {when it} recognized the constitutional rights of people of different races to marry."

Boies added, "There are certain rights that are so fundamental that the Constitution guarantees them to every citizen regardless of what a temporary majority may or may not vote for.... If you didn't tell the majority of the voters they were wrong sometimes under the Constitution, you wouldn't need a Constitution. The whole point of the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment is to say, 'This is a democracy. But it's also a democracy in which we protect minority rights ...' What the Constitution says is that every citizen gets equal protection of the law. It doesn't just say heterosexuals."

Asked by Moyers about criticism that a loss could set the marriage equality cause back for years, Ted Olson replied that a legal challenge of Proposition 8 was unavoidable: "We felt that if a challenge was to be brought, it should be brought with a well-financed capable effort by people who knew what they were doing in the courts. Secondly, when people said, 'Maybe you should be waiting, maybe you should wait until there's more popular support,' our answer to that was, 'Well, when is that going to happen? How long do you want to wait? How long do you want people to be deprived of their constitutional rights in California?'

"... People told Martin Luther King, 'You may lose.' He said the battles for civil rights are won ultimately by people fighting for civil rights."

Testimony in the federal case has been completed, but the trial goes on. Final arguments will take place in the coming weeks. Then the judge will make his ruling, perhaps sometime this spring. Whichever side loses will no doubt appeal.

Of the four plaintiffs - Paul Katami and Jeff Zarillo, Kristin Perry and Sandra Stier - Ted Olson said, "They put a real face on discrimination ... If the American people would just listen to what the plaintiffs and the other experts said in this case, they will understand so much more the damage that's done to people ... Your relationship doesn't count, and you don't count - you know, that is demeaning. And if the American people see that, they'll see the difference."

David Boies noted, "You could not listen to these people and not be moved by their stories. You could not listen to these people and not be moved by their love for each other, by their desire to be married. By the harm, the pain that they were being caused by not being able to do what we take for granted, which is to marry the person we love."

[Tesha]

1. No kicks yet? Good heavens! K&R! (NT)

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2. K&R nt

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3. I'm glad they are on our side this time

But I will never understand why they didn't call Biden as a (hostile) witness.
To hear the VP state again, in court, that he doesn't support same-sex marriage would be incredibly powerful as to their evidence of political powerlessness, and the sort of obstacles we have to overcome.